Man's refusal to be vaccinated costs him 1.6 million dollars

[Darwin2019]

Golfer Jon Rohm was leading the Memorial golf tournament by a big margin after 3 rounds when he was told he could not play on Sunday due to a positive covid test. Now he will not be able to claim the 1.6 million top prize.

[comradebillyboy]

1. How sad for Jon. nt

[lark]

9. IMO he earned this if he didn't get vaccinated.

If he was vaccinated and got it, then that's devastating and so undeserved.

[orleans]

31. just saw this on the vax issue

"Players who are fully vaccinated – 14 days past the full vaccination cycle – are not subject to testing as a result of close contact. Levinson said “north of 50%” of players have been fully vaccinated.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jun/06/not-again-jon-rahm-told-he-has-covid-on-live-tv-while-leading-us-pga-event

[Grins]

39. "North of 50%" seems kind of a low bar

For professionals.

[orleans]

69. yes it does. but maybe they think they're "special" so they won't get covid nt

[ProfessorGAC]

82. Patrick Cantlay Does Think That

He was symptomatic COVID in April. He actually said he figured that meant he didn't need the vax.
There's many players who had COVID since last August. If they think this way, it could be another 20% of the tour who didn't get it, because they thought having COVID made them special.

[Happy Hoosier]

18. He got what he deserved.

At this point if you are not vaxxed and don’t have a valid reason for not being vaxxed it’s your own damn fault if you get COVID.

[COL Mustard]

46. Amen To That.

I don't, and will never, understand why people are vax-resistant in the face of this pandemic, which by the way, isn't over yet. I've heard the excuses...it's risky (less so than getting COVID?)...there are tracking chips in it (really? Please explain how that works)...it's about my freedom (OK, sure, but what about the rights of the rest of us?).

It all comes down to a few possibilities:

1. Ignorance. Can be countered with education/information.
2. Stupidity. Can't be countered, but may be controlled.
3. Willful resistance. I can't fix that one, but my friend Rona can.

Others? Please add to the list.

[Lucky Luciano]

58. I don't know about you, but after I got vaccinated I had a different feeling.

That very same day, I went out and bought 50 copies of Windows 10. Not sure why I did that, but it just felt like the right thing to do. The next day I bought 50 copies of Visual Studio professional edition and 25 X-Boxes. Again, it was just the right thing to do.

All hail Bill Gates, lord and savior.

[Happy Hoosier]

60. LOL! NT

[orwell]

64. That's funny...

...I gave all my money to African relief projects.

I then started coding in C++ and designed a new mobile interface.

Now if I can just get Jeffrey Epstein to return my calls...

[qazplm135]

99. wait til you get the Booster shot

You'll actually start using their browser!

[DBoon]

104. Could be worse...

[Beartracks]

136. And have now also gotten the vasectomy?

That would be the right thing to do, too!








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[smirkymonkey]

140. +1000

I have no tolerance for anyone who refuses to get vaccinated, and usually it boils down to one of the reasons you have listed.

[liberal N proud]

2. My first thought watching that was, why was he not vaccinated.

He obviously had the opportunity.

[3Hotdogs]

74. Jesus don't want you to get no vaccination.

Maybe he heard about Jesus.

[TheBlackAdder]

129. How many chances does it take to get a COVID-19 vaccine? The world may never know.

.



.

[Haggard Celine]

3. I like your name.

It fits so well with this story. You need to give Jon an award.

[marble falls]

4. Doh.

[bpj62]

5. Conservative

Many golfers on the tour are conservatives and big supporters of Donald Trump. They may not say so publicly because they do not want to offend thier sponsors or fans. Most of the golfers grew up in a country club atmosphere. As much as I like the game I hate that part of it.

[FakeNoose]

19. Maybe so, but still stupid not to get vaccinated

My God, they're out among the public every day almost. ChumpHumpers need to realize that even their own golden idol is smart enough to get vaccinated. What's their problem?

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

37. Trump himself has gotten vaccinated.

Which makes me wonder how his supporters feel about him having done that. Especially the ones who refuse it because they think it is unnecessary (like Rand Paul) or just a bad thing altogether (like Rick Wiles).
I agree with your post about liking golf but disliking how many pro golfers support Trump. I enjoyed watching Nicklaus and Woods (among others) play because they were so good at it. But I stopped watching PGA golf when they and other golfers like John Daly came out in support of Trump.

[NYC Liberal]

42. I see some saying he was forced to say that and that he hasn't actually been vaccinated.

No I’m not making that up.

[Escurumbele]

62. John Rham is from Spain, he has no allegiance to the republican party or Democratic party

for that matter.

It would be interesting to know why he was not vaccinated. Some people think it will never happen to them, regardless of politics.

[oldsoftie]

139. I've heard that many had problems getting it due to residence

That may have been true early on, but by NOW I think its pretty much available everywhere. I could see logistics being an issue for the 2nd shot, but it would seem the PGA would take care of that. They should've had vax setups at each tournament

[EYESORE 9001]

6. Bummer, man!

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[Throck]

7. Golf is a good waste of park or farmland anyway.

Good place to develop public housing.

[Hotler]

11. Motocross track. Many times I've looked at a golf course and

thought about doing some hot laps around it on the dirt bike.

[3auld6phart]

33. Agree

and damn hard on depleting H2O supplies.Especially in arid areas.

[3auld6phart]

35. Agree

and damn hard on depleting H2O supplies.Especially in arid areas.

[NYC Liberal]

43. George Carlin:

I've got just the place for low-cost housing. I have solved this problem. I know where we can build housing for the homeless: golf courses! It's perfect! Just what we need. Plenty of good land, in nice neighborhoods, land that is currently being wasted on a meaningless, mindless activity engaged in primarily by white, well-to-do male businessmen who use the game to get together to make deals to carve this country up a little finer amongst themselves. I am getting tired, really getting tired, of these golfing cocksuckers in their green pants, and their yellow pants, and their orange pants, and their precious little hats and their cute little golf carts! It is time to reclaim the golf courses from the wealthy and turn them over to the homeless! Golfing is a arrogant, elitist game which takes up entirely too much room in this country. Too much room' in this country! It is an arrogant game on its very design alone, just the design of the game speaks of arrogance. Think of how big a golf course is - the ball is that fucking big! What do these pin-headed pricks need with all that land?! There are over seventeen thousand golf courses in America, they average over one hundred and fifty acres a piece - that's three million plus acres, four thousand, eight hundred and twenty square miles - you could build two Rhode Islands and a Delaware for the homeless on the land currently being wasted on this meaningless, mindless, arrogant, elitist, racist, there's another thing; the only blacks you'll find at country clubs are carrying trays. And a boring game. A boring game for boring people. You ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies fuck! And a mindless game, mindless. Think of the intellect it must take, to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then, walking after it! And then, hitting it again! I say pick it up asshole, you're lucky you found the fucking thing! Put it in your pocket and go home, you're a winner! You've found it! No chance of that happening. Dork-o in the plaid knickers is going to hit it again and walk some more. Let these rich cocksuckers play miniature golf! Let them fuck with a windmill for an hour and a half or so! See if there's any real skill among these people. Now I know there are some people who play golf who don't consider themselves rich. FUCK 'EM! And shame on them for engaging in an arrogant, elitist pasttime.

[paleotn]

50. Lol! Forgot that one.

Carlin just didn't hold back. I miss him. He would have been riot, or caused a riot, these last 5 years.

[zeusdogmom]

85. Probably caused a riot 😄

[COL Mustard]

147. And By The Way, Welcome to DU!

[Worried2020]

81. I luved George Carlin,

.

and yeah, I watched that monologue of his on Golf Courses more than once.

"A boring game for boring people. You ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies fuck!

And a mindless game, mindless. Think of the intellect it must take, to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then, walking after it!

And then, hitting it again!"

Miss ya George -

W

[Escurumbele]

66. Not sure if you understand that Golf has the benefit of conserving land, and they strive to

irrigate the golf courses with natural/organic products. The amount of money that is collected for charity in Golf pales in what is collected through American Football, and other sports. Most golf tournaments collect money during the championships which goes back to the community.

If you think the land used for a golf course is a waste, then why not include land used for American Football, Football, Baseball, Lacrosse, Tennis stadiums, etc...lets turn ALL of them into farmland, lets not waste it in sport and recreation...

The fact that you may not like golf and know very little about the sport and the industry, which seems to be the case, doesn't mean that golf is a bad thing.

The other benefit of golf is the education that kids are receiving through golf, the life lessons they are getting from it, check "The First Tee" and learn a little about how they do it. And while you are at it, pick up a golf club and give it a shot, I believe you will change your mind about the sport after that, you will find out that it takes a lot of skill and a lot of work just to become a decent player, and when I say decent, I mean hitting in the upper 70s.

It helps to do some research about what you are about to bash before doing so, it can change your perspective of what you were planning to say/write.

[Tommymac]

76. Conserving Land? BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAA

That is the lamest excuse for the game I've ever heard.

It is elitist. It is a haven for Rich Country Club White Racists and Misogynists.

It gives very little to poor kids/areas compared with the NBA, MLB, NHL and NFL.

I played it for years. Got sick of the conservative rethug assholes and Karen/Biff idiots on the courses. Gave it up.

And conserving land? OMG that is rich. You make it sound like it is the National Park Service or something.

Anyway. You are welcome to your opinion but the game is elitist no matter how you spin it.

[ProfessorGAC]

86. I Was OK, Until Your Last Sentence

I don't agree with some of what you said, but I get your point of view.
But, golf hasn't been an elitist activity since I started playing it 50+ years ago.
75% of every golfer I've ever known were just working stiffs, most doing "blue collar" work.
The demographics from NGF support that a minor fraction of active golfers are business professionals.
The data doesn't support your elitist tag.
On everything else, we could find common ground.

[Tommymac]

90. I am a working stiff and played public coarses for the most part.

I rarely saw any POC on the coarses I frequented - and they were public or small private 'farm' coarses. Not Country Clubs.

Lots of white blue collar stiffs like me though.

Just sayin'

[ProfessorGAC]

103. In The City, I Grew Up...

...black golfers are about proportional to the city's demographics. (Around 15% AA.)
Drive by the municipal courses on any busy day and 1 in 6, at least, are black golfers.
I wouldn't expect to see a disproportionate fraction, so this seems ok to me.
I know not every city is like that, but your experience is far from universal.
BTW: this is a county of around 700,000. There's no country club in the entire county. Everything is public around here.

[Escurumbele]

88. I will give you an example...

Where I live there was a beautiful golf course, they not only had the land that was used for the course, but they had spare land around it.

The golf course was in the middle of an overcrowded development, can't remember how many houses are in the subdivision, but they exceed 500, so picture that one.

The golf course was the only breathing area. The owner received a huge offer for the land, he sold it, now there are 500 more lousy houses in the area, the people who bought the course it "developed" it.

Now, is that what you rather see? Land that was open before, even if the elitist played it, is full of lousy home where you can jump from roof to roof.

The game was elitist, and it seems that because you left the game a long time ago you don't know what is going on anymore. Where I leave there are, besides "The First Tee", other organizations where they teach golf and life lessons to kids for ZERO dollars, they take them to very nice golf courses to play on the week-end, and all that for ZERO dollars.

Many of those non-elitist kids have gone to college with golf scholarships, these organizations demand that the kids bring good grades home. Organizations like those are all over the country now. The Tiger Woods foundation is another that educates non-elitist kids and puts them through college. I see more charity coming from golf than from any other sport.

So keeping acres of undeveloped land IS NOT conservation land??? Really? Ask the people who lived around the golf course I mentioned and now have NO TREES, NO PONDS, but 500 hundred other lousy houses where there was open land before, where they could go and just walk the course to breath fresh air...So please, tell me, how is that not a positive thing for the environment?

[Tommymac]

89. I left the game less then 10 years ago.

I rarely saw anyPOC on the coarse. I live in an Urban area - the patrons did not reflect the racial makeup of my area.

I saw Tiger and VJ on TV. That was pretty much it.

I'll stick by my opinion.

[Escurumbele]

94. You can have an opinion but your opinion is always stronger when it is based on facts

That is the reason we don't and didn't like trump, he has and had a lot of opinions, none based on facts.

I volunteer with kids in some of those organizations that cater to low economic families in golf. In one of the organizations there are about 160 kids, 95% of them are all POC, the other organization it is about 98% POC. The good players have gone to college with golf scholarships, and these organizations enforce good grades that a few of them have received scholarships for academics alone.

When the women's Soccer National Team's goalkeeper, Brianna Scurry, was interviewed she said that "I feel like a fly in a glass of milk" because she was the only black player on the team. My son was the opposite, he was the only white kid on one of the organizations and one of four in the other.

So please, base your opinion on facts, it will not only have more weight, but it will also help all of us know you have done your research when you express it.

Golf has changed dramatically since you got away from it. A private course I play a lot at don't even care if you play with a tee-shirt and not a polo shirt, and it is a very good private course. Oh, and you do see a lot of POC on the course, everyone gets along very well.

[ChubbyStar]

98. Wow so you can play in a tee-shirt and not a polo shirt?

Major progress.

[Escurumbele]

112. Sorry that you don't get it...It is not that difficult to understand if you take a couple of mins

You missed the rest, that is why we have the problems we have today in USA and the World, people just hear/read what they want to hear/read, everything else flies above their heads.

[ChubbyStar]

116. I didn't miss anything

I just decided to comment on that point, I think that is my prerogative.

[Escurumbele]

124. Well, the benefits outweigh the petty comment of the t-shirt, maybe I should have not

included it because it is really a minute factor of how golf has changed and stopped being an elite sport.

That you chose to comment only on that showed, to me, that you did not get the full picture of what I had explained. If you did then it is very sad that you chose to pick on something so insignificant in order to try to minimize all the changes golf has undertaken which I pointed out.

It is your prerogative, I agree with that. I just think that for a serious discussion it may have been better to choose something else to force a good debate, but you are 100% correct, it is your prerogative.

[ChubbyStar]

127. I know a lot about golf

Do you know Stuart Appleby? I do, my family was instrumental in bringing the then Nike tour to Sonoma County CA. I have no desire to continue this conversation with you and DU gives me the tools to do just that. Goodbye.

[Escurumbele]

141. You may have known a lot about golf then, but you seem to have fallen behind on the changes

that golf has undertaken the last 30-40 years.

Golf is a sport for the masses nowadays, you can be poor and still play the sport. As I said before, I volunteer to a couple of organizations that have been bringing golf to kids who come from low income families, and they pay ZERO $ to join. They get shirts, instruction, driving range use, play at very good golf courses in the area, and it is all FREE, no money. And best of all, many of these kids end up going to College with Golf scholarships, it doesn't get better than that.

So you know the history, that is great, now you may want to update your views, things have changed since Appleby, and yes I know of him, I saw him play, I saw when he was mugged, I forget where, and his troubles with his personal life, but knowing about a golfer does not make anyone an expert in the sport, I know that I am not an expert, but as I have said before, it is the bashing and the name calling that Rahm has received here at DU that I find troubling, not because it is him, but because it is unfair and most of it comes from ignorance, not facts.

[GoneOffShore]

138. This might give you a different view

[druidity33]

137. Not always...

This article is instructive...
https://jamesgreen162.medium.com/the-effects-golf-courses-have-on-wildlife-and-the-environment-5e07ab2a0fb1

Basically, if you didn't build the course on top of a landfill, use no chemicals and have active water sequestration (golf courses use A LOT of water) you are not conserving land. I respect that you want to look to the positive... but really only the very best designed courses could be considered actual "conservation".

[fescuerescue]

145. I suppose they could put a mall and parking garage on all the golf courses.

I don't care for golf myself. But I don't understand the anger and outrage over it.

[BumRushDaShow]

84. The "research" needs to include

"golfing while a black female" - https://www.golfdigest.com/story/police-were-called-on-five-african-american-women-for-playing-too-slow-the-women-allege-the-crime-was-golfing-while-black-inside-a-two-year-fight-for-justice

That's a "life lesson" they will never forget.

[Throck]

87. I wouldn't miss the sports arenas or the large parking lots either.

[NickB79]

100. Are you even serious?

Closely mowed grass is a goddamn ecological desert. It's a monocrop, with no flowers or habitat of any kind. Soil maintained with synthetic fertilizers and sprinklers, because the grass species selected are too shallow-rooted to send down roots to build soil structure. Nothing for insects to eat, which form the basis of the food chain. You've got trees bred or selected specifically for their lack of fruit and nuts (can't have plums, walnuts or berries littering the precious greens). Even the water hazards are mowed right to the edges, instead of letting valuable cattails and reeds grow for nesting habitat.

I don't give a damn if they use the most organic herbicides and pesticides on the planet. It's still a dead zone.

[socialist cyclist]

101. Golf does not conserve land

I work in conservation. Golf courses destroy agricultural and forest lands and require literally tons of chemicals to create a monoculture wasteland. Those chemicals make it into the water supply and end up destroying aquatic habitat and drinking water. A manicured lawn is NOT conservation.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

121. I hate lawns.

Be it a home or a golf course. Wish we could get over the lawn bullshit.

Lawns became popular because middle class people wanted to imitate and ape rich people.

It's time to stop sucking up to the rich.

[questionseverything]

120. It's too expensive for most working people

[DBoon]

105. Golf courses aren't cmpletely useless

In the winter, they can be used for beginning cross country skiing tracks, at least when it snows

[C Moon]

128. Especially when they build them over-looking the ocean.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

132. At Charleston, SC, Patriots Point was a huge area bound by the Atlantic Ocean and Cooper River.

It was big, beautiful, and already planted with nicely trimmed grass. It was the perfect place for dozens and dozens of families to have picnics.

They turned it into a golf course.

[justhanginon]

8. Another selfish millionaire pays the price in a very public manner..

No sympathy here, it was a preventable occurence. Maybe it will encourage others to get vaccinated

[Escurumbele]

72. Please explain why he is a "selfish millionaire"...

This is amazing at how judgmental people have become...He has earned all his money, to become a golfer of his quality you work "ALL YOUR LIFE", it doesn't happen over night, it takes sacrifices, a lifetime dedication, going through injuries, disappointments, etc.

Anyone who thinks it is easy to become a Pro on the PGA, or the LPGA I dare them to pick up a golf club and try it.

So please, tell us why he is a "selfish millionaire"...

[Mariana]

75. Refusing to be vaccinated, and thereby endangering everyone around him

is extremely selfish. Do you disagree?

[Escurumbele]

83. Where is your proof that he refused to be vaccinated?

He already have COVID once, many people think they are immune after they have had it once.

Please provide proof "he refused"...If its an assumption then that is wrong.

[Ms. Toad]

107. At best, he delayed vaccination.

Golfers who are fully vaccinated were not subjected to the daily COVID testing after exposure to someone with COVID. He was subjected to the mandatory daily testing - so - he was not fully vaccinated. Since vaccinations have been available to all over 16 for more than a month, at best, he did not get the vaccination when it was available to him.

[Escurumbele]

113. Again, and your proof on that particular golfer is???

Just so that you know, the other two golfers who were in his group also had COVID in the past, and because of it they did not vaccinate because to their understanding, they are immune now. Maybe this experience will change all three of them, but that is a general thought between people who have had COVID.

[Ms. Toad]

117. The proof is just what I said.

Last edited Sun Jun 6, 2021, 07:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Rahm was exposed to someone with COVID on or about May 31, and because of that was complying with mandatory daily testing.

On the evening Monday, May 31, the PGA TOUR notified Jon Rahm that he was subject to contact-tracing protocols, as he had come in close contact with a person who was COVID positive. Per the TOUR’s COVID Health & Safety Plan, Rahm was given the option to remain in the competition and enter our tracing protocol, which includes daily testing and restricted access to indoor facilities.

https://www.pgatour.com/news/2021/06/05/jon-rahm-withdraws-2021-the-memorial-tournament-presented-by-nationwide-covid-19-coronavirus.html

This testing requirement is only imposed on exposed individuals who are NOT fully vaccinated.

Players who are fully vaccinated — 14 days past the full vaccination cycle — are not subject to testing as a result of close contact.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-jon-rahm-memorial-withdraw-covid-19-20210606-wcclbuz7anaptgthbi3pgco2sm-story.html

Thus, he was not fully vaccinated at the time of exposure - because ONLY people who were not fully vaccinated at the time of exposure were subjected to mandatory testing.

The date of exposure was around May 31. All adults were eligible for vaccination - at the latest - on April 19. That would make full vaccination by May 31, at the latest (assuming the longest spread between vaccinations, and assuming he wasn't eligible earlier). My daughter, in the same age bracket, was fully vaccinated on May 4. That means - at best - he delayed his vaccination. The other alterative is that he just didn't get vaccinaed. Applying high school logic, those are the only two possibilities.

ETA: Jon Rahm lives in Arizona, where vaccinations have been available to anyone over 16 since March 24. Since he was not fully vaccinated on May 31, that means he delayed vaccination for nearly 4 weeks - at a minimum. (He could have gotten the Moderna vaccination on April 20 and still not have been fully vaccinated by May 31 (4 wks between vaccinations + 2 weeks); that is a minimum delay of 27 days from when he was eligible for the vaccine.)

[Escurumbele]

125. Your honor, I have no proof that Jon Rahm refused to get vaccinated, I say he did, and that is it.

It is my word against nothing else your honor. I rest my case.

I tell you, a judge to go against such prosecution would be crazy, proof is not worth anything, is it? Jon Rahm is guilty because I say so.

By the way, the issue here is not whether he vaccinated or not, it is whether the accusation that he refused to get vaccinated or not is true, and so far there is no proof from anyone that he refused to do it.

But Ok, if you say so...

I really don't care if he refused or not, the issue here is the accusation that has no merits until proof is provided, and the fact that the other two players in his group have not been vaccinated either, although Scheffler denied to say if he has or not, but all three had COVID in the past, so to get on one guy's case, with no proof, is unfair and unconstitutional, it is not what DU celebrates. And the names he has been called on this blog is amazing, it is actually disheartening. I am not defending him in particular, I would feel the same if anyone else got the same treatment when there is so much ignorance about the case. It is a case of guilty until proven innocent, when our constitution says otherwise.

[Ms. Toad]

130. I made no claim that he refused vaccination.

I said that, at best, he delayed vaccination.

I presented the facts and the only two logical conclusions that can be drawn from those facts. I even cited the source and provided links to the facts on which I drew logical conclusions. The conclusion that, at a minimum, he delayed vaccination (all that I claimed) is 9th grade logic - not my word. I happen to be a lawyer, and that proof - as to what I claimed - would hold up in court. It is provable facts, and the logical inferences from them.

Instead of identifying logical flaws, you mischaracterized what I said in two different ways (implying that I said he refused vaccination, and asserting that my argument was based on my word, not facts and logic).

[Lucky Luciano]

133. To avoid doubt, he could easily say how dumb it was not to be vaccinated and urge others to do so.

He hasn’t done this at a time when he obviously should.

[Darwin2019]

142. He had every opportunity to get vaccinated!

Given all the attention the PGA has given to testing Rahm must have had many opportunities to get vaccinates In his statement he indicated there were vulnerable members of his family So why was he not vaccinated?

[Darwin2019]

143. I was surprised the CBS broadcast on Sunday did not stress the need to get vaccinated

They certainly did not mention all the money he lost by not getting the shots.

[mchill]

95. He was told on Monday he was exposed

Why was he not quarantining then? What kind of PGA COVID policy is that? What about the other golfers and their caddy’s in his foursome. Did he drive alone? What about others at his temporary lodging? Eating out? The Clubhouse locker rooms?

[Ms. Toad]

108. The policy was that they can continue to play post exposure

if they were vaccinated - without testing
If not vaccinated - with daily testing

As far as I'm concerned, it is stupid (but no more so than relying on the honor system for indoor masking).

[mchill]

109. It will be interesting

To see if he gave COVID to anyone else and now he has has exposed other golfers and associates.

[Ms. Toad]

111. With luck, they were smart enough to protect themselves. n/t

[Javaman]

10. A white millionaire playing a game at a level

Few can ever dream of affording. Throws it all away because of antivaxx stupidity.

My heart bleeds for him.

[SaintLouisBlues]

63. Like Javaman said, " A white millionaire "

What does being Spanish have anything to do with it?

[Raven123]

12. Winner of the Ohio Anti-vax-a-million lottery. Great job!

[underpants]

24. Yes it is in Ohio. Great point. Jack's tourney. Jack is hugely pro-Trump

[LonePirate]

13. He should be happy. A private enterprise is operating free of government regulations and ...

he is receiving a first hand lesson about the results of personal responsibility (or the lack thereof). Both of those are goals of the Republican party so he should be pleased as punch.

[Happy Hoosier]

14. HA! HA!

Let’s point and laugh at ana expensive self-own.

[NCjack]

15. Golfer puts his mouth where his ass is.

[Ferrets are Cool]

16. According to the PGA, only 50% of those idiots have gotten vaccinated.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

20. Tots 'n pears, Jon...tots 'n pears...

[JT45242]

21. Dumbass who put himself and thousands of lives at risk

His sponsors who paid him to put lives at risk are:

JDA Software
Callaway Golf
Travis Matthew clothing
Cuatar footware

I would suggest that we all boycott these companoes for sponsoring someone who so recklessly put people in danger over the world.

[HUAJIAO]

23. I never heard of any of them..

[Pinback]

27. Haha, me either. A subculture I'm glad to not be a part of. (nt)

[Rebl2]

32. Have never

heard of him let alone his sponsors.

[KPN]

54. +1000. Lol!

[paleotn]

49. Well, that's easy.

I don't play golf anyway.

[Vinca]

22. I didn't hear the part about refusing to be vaccinated. Screw him then.

[JusticeForAll]

25. You are all just mean!

Do you have any idea how tough this job is? And the hours it demands? Few normal people with the demands of family, childcare, and the overall stress of the job could barely find time to breathe let alone get vaccinated!

Where’s that sarcasm button...?

[Quakerfriend]

28. My understanding is that he had had COVID and thought

he had immunity.

[Tanuki]

29. Where did you read that?

[Rebl2]

34. I thought

Immunity lasted 3-6 months, so if he had it last year that immunity is probably gone by now.

[womanofthehills]

118. Latest studies are saying natural immunity lasts at least a yr

And could even last a lifetime - no one knows yet, but natural antibodies to other Sars viruses have lasted for lifetimes.

So… here comes the Delta strain ( new name for the Indian B.1.617.2 strain) and the current vaccines are not great against it according to latest
study in Lanset You guys talk like everything is black and white!!

The study analysed antibodies in the blood of 250 healthy people who received the Pfizer vaccine

London:

People fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine are likely to have more than five times lower levels of neutralising antibodies against the Delta variant first identified in India compared to the original strain, according to research published in The Lancet journal.

The study also shows that levels of these antibodies that are able to recognise and fight the virus are lower with increasing age, and that levels decline over time, providing additional evidence in support of plans to deliver a booster dose to vulnerable people.

. https://techzist.com/pfizer-far-less-effective-for-delta-variant-than-earlier-strains-lancet-study/

[bullwinkle428]

41. No - you're confusing him with Patrick Cantlay, one of the guys playing in the same

group alongside Rahm. Cantlay was apparently diagnosed positive last fall, forcing him to miss the U.S. Open. Because of his degree in virology ( ), he apparently assumed he had all the necessary antibodies, and felt no need to get vaccinated. It appears they're allowing him to play today.

[patphil]

30. From the movie Forrest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does".

[William Seger]

59. That's why I say willful ignorance is indistinguishable from stupidity

[patphil]

77. Yeah, only a stupid person would choose to be willfully ignorant.

[thesquanderer]

36. If he's got covid, it could even cost him a lot more than that. (n/t)

[onecaliberal]

38. I don't really care, do you?

[KPN]

56. Lol. Nope!

[femmedem]

40. We don't know if he was vaccinated or not. It seems he was tested because of contact tracing.

From WaPo:

"Rahm had been subject to regular testing after he came in close contact with someone who tested positive, the PGA Tour said in a statement. He agreed to the testing protocols and restricted access to indoor facilities to remain in the tournament and tested negative each day until his most recent test — conducted between his second and third rounds — returned a positive result.

The news played out on live TV, with Rahm putting his hands over his face and doubling over as he received the news, adding, “Not again.” It was not clear exactly what he meant and he returned to an upright position, then walked off the course. CBS’s Jim Nantz was as mystified as viewers as the scene played out."

Maybe he hadn't been vaccinated: no one has publically said, as far as I know. Or maybe "Not again" meant it's the second time he's contracted the virus, and he thought he had immunity, as a poster above pointed out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/06/05/jon-rahm-withdraws-memorial/

[Fla Dem]

44. Well the "Right" will jump on this as an another example of cancel culture.

[RVN VET71]

52. If he refused vaccination it will be a case of "self-cancel culture"

Does anyone know if he, in fact, refused vaccination?

If he did then too bad, little fool, but you brought this on your Trump-headed self.

If he didn’t refuse and was, for some reason, waiting for his appointment, well, still "too bad", but without the irony or sarcasm.

Would love to find out what he meant by “not again.”

[Fla Dem]

53. Yes that is correct, but not the way the Right will use it.

[KPN]

57. You know it.

[Rocknation]

45. And therein lies the flaw of anti-vaxx logic

Last edited Sun Jun 6, 2021, 11:27 AM - Edit history (2)

What you gain in being politically loyal or scientifically deluded, you lose in being subject to actually contracting the disease -- whether mildly, severely, chronically, or fatally.

Shut up, grow up, and sleeves up.


Rocknation

[Dan]

47. I respect a man that is willing to give up a million dollars because of his beliefs,

And probably support of Donald.

If I had the opportunity to make million dollars plus, I would get vaccinated.

[paleotn]

48. Womp womp.

My heart bleeds......NOT!

[KPN]

51. Oh boy, I can see another "conspiracy" brewing. The "deep state" punishing high profile dissenters.

[TheDemsshouldhireme]

55. This should be a bigger story in the sports world

A single golfer losing out on 1.6 million is one thing. The bigger question is how people's decision to not get vaccinated will affect team sports. The NFL has policies that if a certain percentage of a team in fully vaccinated they can resume in person meetings. So the decision by some players to not get vaccinated is going to put some teams at a disadvantage. Summer will be over in 3 months and I don't think its a big leap to say cases will go up again in the fall winter. So image a baseball team in the playoffs/world series and their ace pitcher is quarantined with covid, dude just put the whole organization and their goal of championship in jeopardy. Imagine a NFL team in the playoffs/superbowl and the star player tests positive, just put the team and the entire organization and their goals at a disadvantage.

Imagine a NFL playoff game and a Mahomes, or Lamar Jackson, or Brady, or Rodgers, Allen isnt vaccinated and cant play in the big game. That player is going to have to take the criticism that is going to come with that choice.

[Escurumbele]

61. How do you know he refused to take the vaccine?

Can you please provide information on that?

Thank you

[W_HAMILTON]

65. Anyone can pretty much walk in and get the vaccine now if they want it.

Therefore, if he hasn't done so already, odds are he did refuse to take the vaccine.

[Escurumbele]

70. He had COVID once, this is his second time, it could be that he thought he was

immune and didn't need the vaccine

My point is that unless you have 100% proof that he denied, emphatically denied to be vaccinated then making an assumption and coming up with that title is irresponsible. We have to work with the truth, otherwise we are no better than fox news or the republicans.

I don't know the facts so I cannot say he did not refuse to be vaccinated, he may have, but providing proof when using a title as such "Man who refused to be vaccinated...", and coming from pure assumption is wrong.

Again, he may have refused, but we don't know that yet because no proof has been provided.

[W_HAMILTON]

110. Even if he had COVID before, it would still be him refusing to get the vaccine.

Furthermore, I've found that most people that use the excuse "but I had COVID already" as a defense of not getting the vaccine is just them trying to justify their refusal to get the vaccine anyway, because if they were interested in getting the vaccine, they would have done their research and realized that the vaccine is recommended for its consistently high level of immunity, even if you have already had COVID.

I'm fine if you want to label this all as speculation, but the signs point to him not being all that interested in getting vaccinated.

[Escurumbele]

115. Well, it is speculation at this time because no one offers proof he refused to get the vaccine

The other two golfers in his group also had COVID in the past, and they too are not vaccinated, although one of them refused to say if he is or not. It is a misconception that because one had COVID you don't need to vaccinate, but unfortunately people are told so, just like some people were told to drink bleach.

Some people do not take the time to do the research, example is this blog where people are calling this particular golfer names and other stuff when they have not taken the time to do proper research...This seems like a good example of what you are saying about the vaccine, and I as we can see it happens on all topics. It is very sad that people believe at face value everything the hear or read and never take the time to find out whether it is true or not.

The speculation and the vitriol in this blog, the way people have attacked this particular golfer while no one seems to know the facts, is very wrong.

If he refused to get the vaccine because he thought he was immune, then I hope he learned form it, if he refused because of whatever reason, that is his prerogative, whether I agree with it or not doesn't matter, but it would be wrong for me to make assumption and vilify him for his actions when I don't know the details. I am vaccinated, and that too was my prerogative.

[womanofthehills]

119. There are many studies out there saying natural immunity is a good thing

If you have had Covid, you have antibodies - so why would you need the vaccine???

[Escurumbele]

126. I am not debating the immunity, the problem is that it has been proven that people who had

COVID once can get it a 2nd time as well, Jon Rahm being one of them. I, and my family, we all vaccinated for COVID, to rely on immunity when there have been so many cases of people getting it a 2nd time? That is not a good proposition, it is a dangerous proposition, and in his line of work, around so many people, they should all think about it.

All three players in Rahm's group had COVID and none were vaccinated. The PGA has allowed attendants at these tournaments, hundreds of them, all piled up, and 98% are not wearing masks, I think that is a problem and I have to think that many of those attending may be infected if asymptomatic people carrying the virus are around them.

But anyway, I do believe that natural immunity is real, but COVID is a different virus. Better be safe than sorry.

[Marrah_Goodman]

67. Hahahahahahaha

[Renew Deal]

68. Is there proof that he wasn't vaccinated?

Last I heard he was tested because he was in proximity with someone that tested positive. His vax status wasn’t known.

[Escurumbele]

91. Neither the claim that he "REFUSED" to be vaccinated.

Its all an assumption up to now. And what I have stated is that before anyone comes up with a title like that they need to be sure of what they are writing, we don't want DU to become the fox news of the internet.

I don't get it why some people feel vindictive about people who have made their money through great effort, dedication, sacrifice, perseverance, many of those coming from families who are not wealthy, but once they climb in their profession, just like Rham has, he suddenly becomes a horrible person...I really don't get it, I wish I could.

Tiger Woods did not come from a wealthy family, neither did Rory McElroy, if I am not mistaken McElroy's dad and mom worked a couple of jobs each, they sacrificed for their son to become a world class golfer. Is there anything wrong with that? Should we hate Rory McElroy for becoming a millionaire after all the effort and sacrifice that he and his family went through? What is wrong with that picture?

[BobTheSubgenius]

71. I'm sure his "principles" are worth much more to him than $1.6 million.

What a putz.

There was a guy at the grocery store wearing a T-shirt that said "COVID Vaccine Is An IQ Test." I wanted to tell him it was, but in exactly the opposite way that he thought. There was a tiny chance I was wrong about that, but the big thing was not confronting the confrontational. I'm way too old to start throwing hands with a guy like that.

He did cave in to wearing a mask, but it appeared to be a non-issue with him, because he came in wearing it. Maybe he lost that battle some time ago, and has decided he'd rather eat than go "LOOK AT ME!!!"

[Hulk]

73. Gee whiz...how sad...(and stupid)

He should be kicking his irresponsible ass with a mechanical boot.

Zero sympathy.

[skydive forever]

78. If I were his caddie

I’d be really ticked off. A caddie makes 10% of the purse, and he just lost it. (Truth be told, his caddie is my nephew, and he’s done quite well with Jon)

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

114. I hope your nephew is vaccinated. Carrying a bag for 18 or 36 holes is a chore.

Covid can reduce lung function, making that walk difficult or impossible.

[ZonkerHarris]

135. Can you find out if Jon was vaccinated or not? That seems to be a big topic here

[634-5789]

79. Good! Screw that moron. Grow the fuck up and get vaccinated.

[Escurumbele]

93. Read below, so from your comment, they are all morons...

[Raftergirl]

80. According to article in NYT

“Rahm, who has won five PGA Tour events, is required to isolate for 10 days unless he tests negative in two further virus screenings 24 hours apart. Levinson did not disclose whether Rahm had received the Covid-19 vaccine; after recent revisions, tour guidelines no longer require weekly testing for players who are fully vaccinated. Vaccinated players would also not be subject to the contact tracing that Rahm underwent this week. Levinson said that the tour had tracked vaccinations among players and that more than 50 percent of its more than 200 players had been fully vaccinated.”

So, it appears he wasn’t vaccinated (at least not fully) because if he was he wouldn’t have been subjected to testing for being a close contact with an infected person.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/05/sports/golf/jon-rahm-memorial-covid-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=Sports

The top double team at Roland Garros this week have also been forced to withdraw because they both tested positive.

[Escurumbele]

92. These are the two who played with Rahm

Said Cantlay: “I’ve already had Covid, so, yeah, I got to imagine I have antibodies, so I don’t feel too concerned, but obviously it is somewhat of a concern, but I got to imagine that I had it earlier this year, so I’m feeling pretty OK about it.”

Said Scheffler: “Yeah, we played golf outside in the sunlight and everything, I don’t feel very concerned. I had Covid. I’m not going to say whether or not I got vaccinated. I had Covid in the fall and, I mean, I still feel great. I mean, I — yeah, no.”

A lot of people who got COVID think they cannot have it a 2nd time, which may be the case with Rahm, if he did not get vaccinated as he already had it once.

Maybe they will wake up to the fact that they do need to get vaccinated because yes, you can have it a 2nd time.

[ShazzieB]

134. "I'm not going to say whether or not I got vaccinated."

Translation: "I didn't get vaccinated."

Because come on, who says "I'm not going to say..." if they DID get vaccinated?

[SunSeeker]

96. Good. nt

[Deep State Witch]

97. He Could Be Vaccinated And Still Test Positive

A friend of mine and her husband contracted COVID in that two-week period following their second vaccine. Her husband had to be hospitalized, it was that bad. They're both on the mend now, though.

[Ms. Toad]

106. At best he had started vaccination.

Players who are fully vaccinated — 14 days past the full vaccination cycle — are not subject to testing as a result of close contact.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-jon-rahm-memorial-withdraw-covid-19-20210606-wcclbuz7anaptgthbi3pgco2sm-story.html

He was being tested daily because someone with whom he has been in close contact has COVID. I have no sympathy for anyone 16 or over - who is not fully vaccinated at this point, and experiences a negative financial consequence for that choice.

[TexasBushwhacker]

123. Only about 20% of Spain is fully vaccinated

About half the percentage of the US.

[Ms. Toad]

131. Not sure why the vaccination rate in the country where one was born has any influence

on whether someone living in the US for about a decade delayed vaccination.

[joetheman]

144. They love fascists. Only when their dictator tells them will they get vacinated.

[Ms. Toad]

146. Well, that is circumstantial evidence for the point I've been making -

At a minimum, he delayed vaccination.

[BHDem53]

122. What a putz.