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Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:14 AM Jun 2021

Supreme Court asked to review men-only draft registration law

The question of whether it’s unconstitutional to require men but not women to register could be viewed as one with little practical impact. The last time there was a draft was during the Vietnam War, and the military has been all-volunteer since. But the registration requirement is one of the few remaining places where federal law treats men and women differently, and women’s groups are among those arguing that allowing it to stand is harmful.

The justices could say as soon as Monday whether they will hear a case involving the Military Selective Service Act, which requires men to register for the draft.

The question of whether it’s unconstitutional to require men but not women to register could be viewed as one with little practical impact. The last time there was a draft was during the Vietnam War, and the military has been all-volunteer since. But the registration requirement is one of the few remaining places where federal law treats men and women differently, and women’s groups are among those arguing that allowing it to stand is harmful.

The justices could say as soon as Monday whether they will hear a case involving the Military Selective Service Act, which requires men to register for the draft.

U.S. Army Infantry soldiers-in-training assigned to Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 19th Infantry Regiment, 198th Infantry Brigade, at Fort Benning, Georgia, conduct basic rifle marksmanship training (BRM) March 23, 2017. (Patrick A. Albright/Army)
Biden wants Congress, not courts, to decide on adding women to military draft
U.S. Supreme Court considering whether to take up the case.

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Ria Tabacco Mar, the director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Women’s Rights Project, who is urging the court to take up the issue, says requiring men to register imposes a “serious burden on men that’s not being imposed on women.”

Men who do not register can lose eligibility for student loans and civil service jobs, and failing to register is also a felony punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and five years in prison. But Tabacco Mar says the male-only requirement does more than that.


“It’s also sending a tremendously harmful message that women are less fit than men to serve their country in this particular way and conversely that men are less fit than women to stay home as caregivers in the event of an armed conflict. We think those stereotypes demean both men and women,” she said.

Even if the draft is never used again, retaining the men-only requirement sends a “really damaging message,” said Tabacco Mar, who represents the National Coalition For Men and two individual men challenging the law.


I think its about time for this. All military positions have been opened to women so why not make them subject to the draft as well, even though its unlikely to be used barring some very drastic unseen events.
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Supreme Court asked to review men-only draft registration law (Original Post) Nexus2 Jun 2021 OP
Or we could just BGBD Jun 2021 #1
the op did mention "drastic unseen events" rampartc Jun 2021 #2
But BGBD Jun 2021 #4
First of all, fuck the draft. For everyone smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #3
"no era, no draft" sounds eminently fair. rampartc Jun 2021 #5
Yes, a defensive war, and then we should draft all the gun humpers and MAGAts who smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #7
"No ERA, no female draft" - +169,000,000* Pinback Jun 2021 #6
Not without the ERA. Period. Freddie Jun 2021 #8
+1 n/t area51 Jun 2021 #9
The SCotUS has decided not to look at the case but to wait until congress isn't looking at the issue Nexus2 Jun 2021 #10
Eliminate the Selective Service and adopt the ERA. Done. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2021 #11
 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
1. Or we could just
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:27 AM
Jun 2021

Eliminate selective service registration all together. It's a complete waste.

rampartc

(5,835 posts)
2. the op did mention "drastic unseen events"
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:40 AM
Jun 2021

and while in the 21st century those may hit faster than conscription could fill any need, i think the possibility does warrant some kind of system, if only to remind young men, and women, that they are members of a society.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
4. But
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:48 AM
Jun 2021

Couldn't we just use a different database to pull the names from? I can't imagine a scenerio where the modern US military would need that many more people, but if it did happen I think we'd be well beyond being worried about conscientious objectors or bone spurs.just use social security numbers to make selections at that point.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. First of all, fuck the draft. For everyone
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:44 AM
Jun 2021

Fuck war. Read "War Is a Racket" by General Smedly D. Butler.

However, if the MAGAts and Gun Humpers really want to get their aggression out, send them all off to boot camp, just to have as back up should we ever have to engage in a defensive war.

Secondly, no ERA, no female draft. Period. Women still do not have equality in this land and until that happens, anyone arguing that women should be eligible for the draft doesn't have a leg to stand on.

rampartc

(5,835 posts)
5. "no era, no draft" sounds eminently fair.
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:55 AM
Jun 2021

i am a veteran, and a fan of general butler. i still think there are occasions when war is unavoidable.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. Yes, a defensive war, and then we should draft all the gun humpers and MAGAts who
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:59 AM
Jun 2021

are just itching to blow away some "furriners" anyway and let them be on the front lines. Solve two problems at once!

Pinback

(13,585 posts)
6. "No ERA, no female draft" - +169,000,000*
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:56 AM
Jun 2021

One of the primary reasons the age of majority (including the voting age) was lowered from 21 to 18 was the fact that 18-year-olds could be drafted into military service and shipped off to Viet Nam.

Agreed that Smedley Butler had it right.



* 169.36 Million is the estimated number of women in the U.S. today.

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
10. The SCotUS has decided not to look at the case but to wait until congress isn't looking at the issue
Mon Jun 7, 2021, 09:45 AM
Jun 2021
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