Do you truly believe that there is not enough evidence to charge Trump with any crimes?

[kentuck]

At this time?

Do you believe the FBI and NY State officials were not investigating him before he became the president?

Do you believe they are just getting all the evidence together, all their ducks in a row, all the "i"s dotted and the "t"s crossed, before they file any charges?

Or do you believe it is "politically incorrect" or politically impossible to charge a president or former president with any crimes?

Do you believe Donald Trump is seriously sweating any charges against him?

Do you believe any politicians have the courage to prosecute?

[StarfishSaver]

1. Do you really care what we think?

What do YOU think?

Do you believe that Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, Tish James, Cy Vance, etc. are all cowards?

Or do you think they are trying to cover up Trump's crimes?

Or do you think they are naive or stupid?

And what's the point of your "questions"?

[kentuck]

2. Obviously, you disagree.

But you do it in such a personal way.

[StarfishSaver]

16. I didn't disagree with anything you wrote. I asked you what YOU think.

Not sure why you think that was personal, but whatever ...

[malaise]

3. Consequences are coming

The Seditionist in chief will pay - as we say ''moon run 'til day ketch it''

[kentuck]

4. I would like to believe that...

..but I am skeptical. I do not believe in leaving politicians to their own devices. I think you have to keep the pressure on them, no matter what Party they belong to. But, that's just my opinion.

[Firestorm49]

20. And then there was the post on DU last year that the former

Idiot in Chief was an FBI informant for years. If so, he probably has immunity agreements in place just to protect himself.

Unfortunately, in most cases, we, the public, are not given the information. This is a reality from both sides - like why the DOJ is not following up on Trump’s paid off mistresses.

[Aristus]

5. No. I believe there is.

The people tasked with obtaining that evidence will need it to be airtight. They know the Trumpanzees will never accept any evidence of wrongdoing whatsoever, no matter how airtight it is. So they may as well make sure it is airtight. Since it is the courts that will have to proceed based on the veracity of the evidence.

[Johonny]

6. I think he will never be charged

He's clearly been guilty of multiple crimes over his entire life. He has never faced any consequences. I don't think he will. It's amazing how little the poor have to do to face full and life changing consequences and how much the rich have to do to face any consequences at all.

Just yesterday the viral Robert Kraft video of rich people buying him a nice car for his birthday is a nice reminder that Kraft was guilty of a crime many middle class men pled guilty too and he had the judge not only throw out the evidence against him, but have the police destroy it! American justice is a scam.

[questionseverything]

25. They will be charged right after reagon is charged in iran/contra

Or bush/cheney are charged with instigating a war or war crimes

Crimes and taxes are only for “the little people “

[PRETZEL]

7. Right now,

from everything we've been hearing and reading, it seems NY is at a quicker pace, especially now that they have the documents that they've been trying to get for a few years. So, at least from what we know, this avenue seems to be the most serious. But from a political point of view, this is probably the area where his base of support is less concerned and with that, he is less concerned about any potential criminal charges.

Now, as the investigations continue into Jan. 6th, added with potential exposure to any possible Rudy crimes (and with that the Ukraine call that CNN apparently got hold of) then as far as possible federal charges being brought, I could very easily see the Garland DOJ taking the evidence to it's natural conclusion and if they view this as a case where they wouldn't be able to secure a conviction against Trump, the political hit would be pretty severe, but he may not face any criminal charges.

[kentuck]

9. Sounds about right.

[joetheman]

8. I have enough evidence on my iPhone. nt

[budkin]

10. Plenty of evidence but they will want to avoid making his supporters angry

MAGA and all that.

[Demsrule86]

13. It has nothing to do with Trump supporters. They would charge and convict him if they could,

I just don't think it is possible. And given his age, he won't' be a problem for that long. I don't want to see every president from now on ending up in court after he/she leaves office.

[Demsrule86]

11. I do not believe Trump will ever be convicted of anything. Hell, he may not even be charged.

He is a mob boss essentially and they are notoriously difficult to take down. He doesn't give orders but those who work for him understand what he wants. Conspiracy is the most difficult of all charges to prove. Our best shot is probably financially but I don't think it will happen. And consider this, I doubt there is a state in this nation where we could get 12 folks to vote for a conviction. There are Trumpers everywhere. What we can do is go after all those who worked for him and maybe dissuade the next group of aides from supporting a criminal president. Also, go after him by suing him and costing him money...that will leave a mark.

[kentuck]

12. Depressing, isn't it?

No one is above the law?

[Demsrule86]

14. The rich have always been above the law. Our justice system is flawed. During the

depression in LA...criminals who were caught were sometimes just put up against the wall and shot. I was shocked to find this out, but it happened. I first saw it in the movie, the Changeling, and when I did some research found it had indeed happened.

[PortTack]

17. I don't think they will indict him if can't make it stick and I believe he will be found guilty

But he will die or be a mushy pile of orange goo b4 he sees any jail time. They will appeal and appeal, and if that doesn’t work all they will have to do is point to his frail medical condition

[Demsrule86]

37. Exactly right.

[StarfishSaver]

19. I remember some people here saying the Democrats would never impeach Trump

[bdamomma]

15. I'm trying

to be hopeful. I'm on the side of justice will be done, to the prick!!

[brooklynite]

18. Fortunately prosecutors don't base indictments on "we know he's guilty" assertions from the internet

[msfiddlestix]

26. Well, the evidence laid out in the Impeachment Trials

seen live on tv and streamed on the internet, was more than enough to convict him.

but I take it you take a different view, and agree with those who voted against conviction at those trials?

Just asking for a friend....

[brooklynite]

28. No, I agree with President Biden who appointed Merrick Garland as AG...

...and gave him the authority to undertake the criminal justice tasks of the Federal Government responsibly and constitutionally.

[msfiddlestix]

30. editing post, my mistake

But seriously, the question is regarding evidence that the public is aware of. Not what else is left to be learned, which obviously is for the
DOJ to discover.

[brooklynite]

31. Do you need a refresher course on linguistics?

the "who" means that what follows applies to the subject (President Biden).

But perhaps you feel that AG Garland should respond to YOUR authority and issue immediate indictments to make the base happy?

[msfiddlestix]

32. i made a mistake, and I owned and edited it saying as much.

I'm going to assume for the sake of this discussion you didn't have a chance to see it before you responded.

[StarfishSaver]

34. The prosecutors are much better judges of what it would take to convict him in a criminal trial

[msfiddlestix]

35. It feels like lawyers are misunderstanding something important about the general public

Us regular folk don't need a police officer or a lawyer or a judge to tell us when we see crimes committed in plain view

It's really kind of weird when we see it, and folks here say, well only if the Judge or the DOJ says it's a crime then it's really a crime.

When we all know, if any of us did anything akin to a single criminal act these mobsters have committed we know our asses would have been arrested with handcuffs, booked and thrown in the can, likely with an exorbitant bail.

Not about stuff we see in plain sight, please. stop.

[StarfishSaver]

36. Whether someone is legally guilty of committing a crime is not determined by the general public

It's not that lawyers misunderstand the general public - it's that we better understand the law than the average person does. And since we're talking about how the law determines guilt or innocence, that heightened understanding of the law is important.

And, fyi, lawyers are "regular folk."

We aren't a special breed who turned nto a different species living in a separate universe upon learning the law. We live in the same neighborhoods as everyone else, have families and kids, pay bills and taxes, vote, go to neighborhood cookouts, some of us worry about making ends meet ...

The only thing different about us is that we know more about the law than the average person, just like mechanics know more about cars then most people and plumbers know more about plumbing than the guy next door.

[Baked Potato]

21. T***p may be offered "Queen For A Day" status. He may have already flipped long ago.

[Caliman73]

22. I think you need some clarifiers in your post.

By politicians, what do you mean? I mean, States Attorneys General are politicians in a way, in that they are often elected positions. DOJ Attorneys are appointed but I suppose they can be subject to politics too. Judges are sometimes elected. However, politicians in the sense of Congress people, do not typically prosecute so Not sure what you are asking.

Trump has likely been under investigation in one way or another since he and his dad were charged with discrimination in the late 70's. As such, he is no stranger to being under investigation, and how to fly just under the radar. He has also settled most of his law suits. Heads of organizations are difficult to cleanly convict, the President is even more difficult to cleanly convict.


You can tell by how loud Trump gets, whether he is afraid or not. In Trumps mind, showing fear is death. He will bluster and show anger, as a way to try to convince people he is not scared. He is scared and the more aggressive he acts, the more you can tell he feels threatened (scared).

[SoCalDavidS]

23. No, America Is Far Too Pathetic

I doubt he will face ANY consequences. He probably won't even be charged.

He's in no way "sweating" any charges that may come his way. He's playing golf, and holding rallies.

He's more likely to run again in 2024, than he is to face any charges between now and then.

If he is charged, it will probably only help his campaign.

[Kaleva]

27. People have the option of making a citizens arrest

I don't think anyone will do that because it might be a hassle and isn't worth it.

[Kaleva]

24. Charging isn't as important as having a good chance of covicting

A good prosecuter doesn't charge unless he or she believes there's a very good chance of winning a conviction

[PufPuf23]

29. Trump is more likely to be elected POTUS in 2024 than

go to prison for his crimes.

That is my unfortunate take on reality and the people and institutions that comprise the USA.

Damn depressing.

But I have been trudging along seldom interjecting negativity to anyone and never just how negative I perceive the future.

Medical issues had already kept me pretty isolated prior to the pandemic and now there are few people I care to talk about anything with.

Damn disappointing.

Biden has been more successful and comprehensive than what I thought would be occur. But because of the split in the nation and the GOP's unwillingness to work on anything constructive or even admit reality, probably will keep us in a doldrums that the GOP will use against us in the future despite being the cause agent for much that goes wrong.

[Silent3]

33. I think it's at least possible, but a big problem is that laws written to punish the common folk...

...for non-white-collar crimes are all pretty much about whether you did or did not do such and such a naughty act. And no one is worried about the "ramifications" of tossing your ass in jail, or that worried about the (much less likely) chance of losing a case against you.

Not only do we get timid prosecution for the rich and powerful, however, with prosecutors who don't want to go after the big fish and risk their reputation if they very publicly lose a case, but so much of the law about white-collar crime and political offenses revolves around whether someone was "aware" they were doing something illegal, if they might have or might not have known this or that fact for certain, what their "intent" was, etc.