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soothsayer

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Tue Jun 8, 2021, 03:33 PM Jun 2021

Story guides you through what the Capitol defendants can expect at sentencing. A must-read:


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Ryan J. Reilly
@ryanjreilly
This thoroughly reported story from @ZoeTillman guides you through what the Capitol defendants can expect at sentencing. A must-read:

Zoe Tillman
@ZoeTillman
Deep dive: On what we know so far about how much (or how little) prison time alleged Capitol rioters are facing https://buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/capitol-insurrection-jail-time-jan-6-cases


Zoe Tillman
@ZoeTillman
·
Jun 8, 2021
Replying to @ZoeTillman
Predicting outcomes is tricky early on, but there are few general truths:
- The vast majority of defendants plead guilty
- Maximum penalties provide context, but rarely reflect actual sentences, and that's already shaping up to be true in the Jan. 6 cases

Zoe Tillman
@ZoeTillman
What do we know:
- 200+ misdemeanor-only cases so far, max sentences between 6 mos-1 yr. Expect defendants who plead guilty and have minimal criminal history to get far less than the max, good chance some will argue for no prison time, unclear how judges will respond to that

- Remaining 250+ face at least one felony, most common is obstructing an official proceeding. Paul Hodgkins' guilty plea establishes a baseline advisory range of 15-21 mos for obstruction and nothing else more serious (he could also argue for a below-guidelines sentence)

Zoe Tillman
@ZoeTillman
- Jon Schaffer's guilty plea establishes an average baseline range of 41-51 months for defendants who plead to obstruction + something else (in his case, entering the Capitol with a weapon). He's poised to get credit for cooperation, which could lower it further
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Story guides you through what the Capitol defendants can expect at sentencing. A must-read: (Original Post) soothsayer Jun 2021 OP
this makes me physically ill - they should ALL BE CHARGED with felony murder with domestic terrorism JT45242 Jun 2021 #1
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #2
There are never consequences for republicans. onecaliberal Jun 2021 #3
That isn't the way our system Tomconroy Jun 2021 #4

JT45242

(2,243 posts)
1. this makes me physically ill - they should ALL BE CHARGED with felony murder with domestic terrorism
Tue Jun 8, 2021, 03:41 PM
Jun 2021

Someone died as a direct result of their felony actions.

This is by the book case law. They are ALL GUILTY (all perpetrators are equally guilty whether or not they pulled the trigger or whether the victim was innocent (the policeman) or a co-conspirator) of federal felony murder.

They were seeking to disrupt through intimidation (HANG MIKE PENCE -- KILL PELOSI) a government activity which makes it domestic terrorism.

If we want to see an end to this Q-anon and Trump humping BS, then every one of these people need to be facing at LEAST 25 years of federal jail time.

The organizers should be gone after using whatever statutes are necessary to forfeit all their assets (whether that be RICO or terrorism statutes).

Actions have consequences. This is the only way that the country can heal.

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