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Fox guest Art Laffer: For those people who are coming into the labor force fresh, not oldtimers -- the poor, the minorities, the disenfranchised, those with less education, young people who haven't had the job experience -- these people aren't worth $15 an hour in most cases
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sabbat hunter
(6,829 posts)Fuck Art Laffer and his racism. Our economy has been ruined since the 80's with his influence on it starting with Reagan.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And 40 years of practice have proven it.
dalton99a
(81,471 posts)What a goddamn asshole.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Republican policies can be boiled down to two words: "cheap labor".
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)My sister said the same thing to me when we had this discussion once ..
Not all jobs are meant to provide a living wage.
Then they go ballistic over food stamps and Medicaid ....
Funtatlaguy
(10,870 posts)GoodRaisin
(8,922 posts)His idea, of course, is to let all those people starve to death.
JHB
(37,159 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 9, 2021, 01:06 AM - Edit history (1)
When you were a kid, and, adjusted for inflation, it was still more than today?
You're 80 years old and have done enough damage to the nation. Go fishing or something. Just get off the air and stop pretending you know anything more than Conservatively Correct doctrine.
sop
(10,167 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)dick shaped graph. Which has all but destroyed our economy.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)They might offer him a contract.
TheFarseer
(9,322 posts)The damage his quack theory has done to the middle class and economic sustainability is incalculable. The nerve he has to be paid much more than lots of hard working people just to spout complete nonsense for a couple of minutes.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)for 6 months. Maybe longer.
As someone who spent much of my working life very close to the edge, I am enraged that privileged people think life is so very easy for those of us at the bottom.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)I agree.
radicalleft
(478 posts)You agree to the premise that there are people who aren't worth $15 per hour?
Elessar Zappa
(13,975 posts)People being able to earn a decent living is a core belief of the Democratic Party.
Ferryboat
(922 posts)It's hard to argue that most workers deserve $15 minimum wage. Until they demonstrate that they can follow instructions.
Based on my observations in the past alot of workers think they are smarter than their coworkers as they integrate into the group.
Just saying the Peter principle applies to all situations.
Those that are talented enough to stand out will progress while those who do not exhibit leadership and or critical thinking capabilities will languish.
Voltaire2
(13,023 posts)Please explain how compensation for labor should be determined.
TheFarseer
(9,322 posts)How a dipstick like Laffer is worth anything at all. Literally anyone can say cut taxes and workers get paid too much. Its not really a special skill.
Elessar Zappa
(13,975 posts)Everyone deserves a living wage.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)malaise
(268,968 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)thinks people are worth as humans.
And don't think for a second that the "in most cases" excuses anything.
Poor people not worth it. (Yes, let's attack poor people because no conservative policy ever held anyone down)
Minorities not worth it. (black people, brown people, etc. - racism much?)
The disenfranchised not worth it. (and why are they disenfranchised to begin with? Gee, all that compassionate conservatism no doubt. You think not paying a former inmate a decent wage gets them on the path of staying out of trouble? Do you really think that asshole?)
The less educated? (all those opportunities afforded to people by conservatism?)
Young people not worth it because they lack experience? (Well, conservative-asshole-moron, how do you think they gain experience? And are they supposed to starve because they don't have experience? Not be able to pay rent because they don't have experience? Life ain't "Leave it to Beaver" fuck-wad (and never has been) - not all young people are working for extra cash - they work to help support their families.)
A minimum wage is about the standard of living. Not what assholes decide they think a human is worth. It's about raising people up. It's about treating people as human. Not forcing them to decide between food or shelter or medicine. Not reducing them to groveling - demeaned and insulted - constantly living in fear of losing their job or one of their multiple jobs they have to work just to be in reach of breaking even.
Got news for you assholes - hunger is NOT a motivator. It's a dehumanizing gnawing that literally breaks people. It rips apart families and drives people to desperation. But that's really your goal. Peons struggling, forever living in fear of those with power. A labor force too scared to demand what they deserve as workers, as humans.
A living wage is what is needed. A true wage that allows people to live a life of dignity and opportunity.
What is NOT needed- and they never have been needed or will be needed - are the assholes who have placed themselves above others by declaring they get to decide who is and isn't worth being treated as a human.
harumph
(1,898 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)And not just from the OP either.
sop
(10,167 posts)Every working American should have the fundamental right to the basic necessities if they work full time.
Worshippers at the altar of the unregulated free market believe it's heresy for government to establish a minimum, living wage. At the same time these rapacious crooks think the cost of housing, food, education, gas, transportation and every other basic necessity should be solely determined by market forces.
Then, after their sacrosanct Invisible Hand of the Market is finished picking their workers' pockets, the Masters of the Universe crowd does everything to destroy their right to unionize and bargain collectively for a living wage.