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Imallin4Joe

(752 posts)
Wed Jun 9, 2021, 05:00 PM Jun 2021

Oh Lord, protect me(us) from your fundie followers..

Protect us from those who invade women's bodies with their bullshit so-called "pro-life" rhetoric.

Protect us from any and all racism, especially those who use their religion as a racist weapon.

Protect us from homophobic bigots. I am a 50 year old gay man diagnosed with HIV 20 years ago. I am very healthy but have also survived 2 pandemics. HIV and COVID. I had covid in March 2020. I lost 25% of my breathing function. Likely permanently. I lost half of my sense of taste and smell.

Protect us from your covidiot fundie anti-vax deniers.

Protect us from your anti-science fundamentalist idiots. Jesus, you know the folks. The morons that flunked out of 8th grade science. Their last venture into scientific education.

Protect us from your Fascist followers.

Protect us from banksters and the capitalists that grow the wealth divide and widen the poverty gap.

Protect us from the racists who weaken democracy with voter restriction bills AND from the DINO's that enable them.

Help us, Oh Lord.

Your people are suffering.

- an atheist's prayer

This is the first time that I have prayed in 35 years.

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Oh Lord, protect me(us) from your fundie followers.. (Original Post) Imallin4Joe Jun 2021 OP
I hear you Skittles Jun 2021 #1
I've seen that bumpersticker!! Imallin4Joe Jun 2021 #3
If the love Jesus, why don't they follow any of his teachings? nt SunSeeker Jun 2021 #7
Secular humanist here... SergeStorms Jun 2021 #2
The fundies I knew in the 60s were a little different. raging moderate Jun 2021 #4
The ones I knew Jilly_in_VA Jun 2021 #5
That was before the fundies became wnylib Jun 2021 #10
Yes. That was what my fundie church people said. raging moderate Jun 2021 #11
In the 80s, fundies were obsessed with end-times theology. This is Politicub Jun 2021 #16
Amen StarryNite Jun 2021 #6
So be it. Please! nt pazzyanne Jun 2021 #8
I'm no atheist but I can tell you that type of prayer taps into a higher power and it works bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #9
I want to believe in something the same way that you believe.. Imallin4Joe Jun 2021 #17
No comprehensive study of divergent religions in civilizations is complete bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #18
Reminds me of Mark Twain's "War Prayer", like a modern... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #12
Well stated. Amen, and thank you. LastDemocratInSC Jun 2021 #13
Thank you as well. Imallin4Joe Jun 2021 #15
Amen. ... electric_blue68 Jun 2021 #14
Amen demigoddess Jun 2021 #19
AMEN! 634-5789 Jun 2021 #20

Imallin4Joe

(752 posts)
3. I've seen that bumpersticker!!
Wed Jun 9, 2021, 05:51 PM
Jun 2021

Yeah, that's always a fave!

There's a business next door to my home that makes custom stickers, campaign signs for your lawn etc.

Im going to get that bumper sticker on my old rusty but trusty ford!

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
4. The fundies I knew in the 60s were a little different.
Wed Jun 9, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jun 2021

I actually attended a Bible Church for five years, in my teens, about 1961-1966. My grade school principal brought my brother and me there. In some ways, they were the same, very nervous and rigid and uptight about what they allowed themselves to say and do and believe. They were more hostile to the Roman Catholic Church back then; they were sure that the Pope would be ordering Jack Kennedy what to do about everything. But I do not remember the vociferous condemnation of people who have their sex surgically changed. I remember somebody once brought up Christine Jorgensen, who became a woman. Everybody seemed more gently puzzled by her than anything. Mostly, they seemed profoundly ignorant of science, geography, psychology, philosophy, and history.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,945 posts)
5. The ones I knew
Wed Jun 9, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jun 2021

in the early 70s were different too. They were very accepting of pretty much anyone. The church had been in the same place, an old brick building that had originally been something else, since the 1930s, but not long before I started going there (invited by a neighbor, a Black woman I was friendly with), they had gotten a new young pastor who was very enthusiastic. It was then a church of the Independent Assemblies of God, a basically Scandinavian offshoot of the AGs, and pretty chill. Some of the older members were a little puzzled by the influx of younger "hippie" types but accepting nonetheless. My late ex often referred to them as "the kind of people who give Christians a good name". I was touched when the ladies gave me a baby shower for my oldest, who they all spoiled after he was born; I still have the quilt "Grandma" S. made for him, as she did for every new baby in the church until she died. Another woman and her husband appointed themselves my parents-in-absentia as mine were in Tennessee, and chauffeured me and the baby to church on Thursday night and Sunday. But I finally stopped going there when I decided I wanted my little one baptized, and infant baptism was something they didn't do, so I went back to my childhood church (Episcopal) and my late ex actually went along.

wnylib

(21,346 posts)
10. That was before the fundies became
Wed Jun 9, 2021, 07:59 PM
Jun 2021

so politicized. In fact, a lot of fundie churches back then taught their people to avoid politics. Their slogan was to "be IN the world, but not OF the world."

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
11. Yes. That was what my fundie church people said.
Wed Jun 9, 2021, 10:07 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Tue Jun 15, 2021, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)

They told each other they must be in this world but not of it. They sang this song constantly: "This world is not my home; I'm just a-passing through. My home is up in Heaven, 'way beyond the blue. The angels beckoned me from Heaven's open door, and I can't feel at home in this world anymore." They spoke of somebody they knew who was getting involved in politics. He was "walking far from the Lord."

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
16. In the 80s, fundies were obsessed with end-times theology. This is
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:16 AM
Jun 2021

the period of time when I was brought to church three times a week - twice on Sunday and every Wednesday. America was regarded as sodom, and congregants worked themselves into a frenzy about how their enemies would be punished.

After I left for college, the only times I was exposed to toxic Baptists and Pentecostals services was at funerals. I noticed by 2000 that they had started to merge nationalism with the core message of apocalypse. The merging of right-wing politics and evangelicals has been intensifying, apparently, based on the handful of funeral sermons I have sat through over the past ten years.

Now the churches operate as super PACs.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
9. I'm no atheist but I can tell you that type of prayer taps into a higher power and it works
Wed Jun 9, 2021, 07:57 PM
Jun 2021

It just needs enough people and enough repetition.

Imallin4Joe

(752 posts)
17. I want to believe in something the same way that you believe..
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 12:36 PM
Jun 2021

trust me when I say that. I found your reply very inspiring. Thank you!

At this point, we need some form of divine intervention.

Your words brightened my day, believe me!!

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
18. No comprehensive study of divergent religions in civilizations is complete
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jun 2021

without study of Hawaii's Kahunas as told by Max Freedom Long in his contact with Kahunas just as they were being absorbed by western culture and Christian missionaries.

The Secret Science Behind Miracles 1948 Max Freedom Long

I think a guy named Brad Steiger wrote a book about Kahuna Magic

Hunas believed they could remotely have great effect, beneficial or adversely toxic, on people far away by tapping into ghosts and higher and lower levels of consciousness. People lived in fear of huna power. Wow that's a loose interpretation, but it's been awhile since I thought about this.



Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
12. Reminds me of Mark Twain's "War Prayer", like a modern...
Wed Jun 9, 2021, 10:13 PM
Jun 2021

... variant of it.

https://warprayer.org/

“Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth into battle—be Thou near them! With them—in spirit—we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it—
For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimmage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!
We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen."

electric_blue68

(14,818 posts)
14. Amen. ...
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 01:34 AM
Jun 2021

I'm glad you made through both. I hope your lungs will return to higher functioning.
As a born & bred nyc'r I remember the beginnings of HIV/AIDS. Terrible times!

Stay strong.

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