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https://www.rawstory.com/manchin-for-the-people/Sen. Joe Manchin, the West Virginia Democrat famous for his vow to maintain the Senate filibuster and thereby scuttle much of President Biden's agenda, recently published an op-ed opposing the For the People Act, Democrats' whopping voting-rights bill. That article strongly echoed talking points from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and appeared shortly after the influential pro-business lobby resumed donations to Manchin's campaign after nearly a decade.
Manchin, who co-sponsored the sweeping voting rights legislation in 2019 and has supported filibuster reform in the past, became the first Senate Democrat to oppose the bill this week while reiterating his opposition to changing the filibuster, a key roadblock to voting reform. Skeptical members of Manchin's party have questioned the reasons for his opposition, especially after after a recent poll found that a majority of West Virginia voters support changing the filibuster rules and that 79% of the state's voters including a large majority of Republicans support the For the People Act.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., suggested that Manchin's opposition to the proposal and filibuster reform may really be about measures in the bill aimed at cracking down on lobbyists and dark money.
"This is probably just as much a part of Joe Manchin's calculus than anything else," she told MSNBC on Tuesday. "You look at the Koch brothers and you look at organizations like the Heritage Foundation and conservative lobby groups that are doing a victory lap ... over the fact that Manchin refuses to change on the filibuster. And I think that these two things are very closely intertwined."
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...as well as mass protests and maybe a dash of Kompromat.
KS Toronado
(17,191 posts)to get him to wake up and smell the roses. Surround him every day, morning, noon, & evening whenever he's
out in public. And make sure TV cameras are rolling from news organizations that will air their footage on the
evening news. Come on people of WV & DC start this with dates, times, & locations and people from across the
nation will follow. I will.
global1
(25,240 posts)jf he stiffs the U.S. CofC and the big money lobbyists.
If this is just about fund raising for Manchin - if another source of money is available to replace any of the monies he's currently getting to turn his back on the Dems - maybe he could be convinced to vote with the Dems and nix the filibuster.
Seems like everything these days boils down to money. When they say its the root of all evil - it really means that in relation to politics.
Pinback
(12,154 posts)that a public servant could focus on public service.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,113 posts)According to these animals, there is no 'cushion'. There is no limit to the amount one wants or what one has to do to get it. Manchin is above that line that says he has to worry about anyone or anything. So, what 'pressure' are we going to apply that is going to affect someone who is practically unaware of most of the population? Only the people in his district can vote him out. If they cannot figure out what is going on, then it is because they don't want to.
quakerboy
(13,918 posts)Im sure the campaign funds are helpful in directing him, but id be shocked if that was the only financial incentive involved.
Can we offer him and his family lucrative jobs for life?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Are they pressuring their other Senator, presumably a Republican, and Manchin?
Goonch
(3,606 posts)orangecrush
(19,516 posts)ShazamIam
(2,570 posts)Initech
(100,060 posts)KS Toronado
(17,191 posts)OMGWTF
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KS Toronado
(17,191 posts)calimary
(81,198 posts)papa3times
(150 posts)as usual.
czarjak
(11,266 posts)spanone
(135,816 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Layzeebeaver
(1,623 posts)or business
or personal life
Politicub
(12,165 posts)but Manchin did not stop there. Instead, he made a PR campaign out of his opposition. This was a slap in the face of Democrats. His Im a fair-weather democrat campaign started long ago, but reached a crescendo with the publishing of the op-ed in WV, followed by a media tour with appearances on the political talk shows on Sunday.
He will not back down after all of the publicity he made about his filibuster love.
Yes, Im glad we have a thin majority. As a show of thanks, we should prostrate ourselves at his feet and thank Manchin for the crumbs he has dropped. May the lord open, and all that.
Im done with debasing myself by defending him.
twodogsbarking
(9,728 posts)Go AOC.
kimbutgar
(21,111 posts)Hr1 and end the filibuster.
Manchin needs to give an asking price for his votes. Wouldnt it be funny if someone brought up the chamber of commerce donation on live tv and ask him his asking price?
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)What a sorry impasse the system has come to. When some personal ambition and venality can derail an entire agenda that is sorely needed. It's amazing to me how some people are willing to be remembered.
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)it's cutting the legs off the "dark" money. Repealing Citizens United would be the worst outcome for America's wealthy.
If their wealth can't buy the government they want, what good is it?
mountain grammy
(26,614 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,578 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,405 posts)to the future of our Democracy it would appear there is something DRASTICALLY wrong with the system in place.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)Wrong with him.
Like no shame,no guilt and no empathy.
Greedy fuckers I just hate them.
Captain Zero
(6,800 posts)Sure fits easily on a protest sign.
peppertree
(21,621 posts)MiHale
(9,713 posts)Probably money over beliefs
Money over democracy
Money over logic.
PatSeg
(47,376 posts)Not surprising of course, but still it is infuriating.
JudyM
(29,225 posts)not to mention the rest of us, are just outta luck
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)need to be addressed when we have a more favorable SCOTUS situation.
seta1950
(932 posts)Why is the chamber of commerce against voting rights, why is being pro business automatically mean youre anti voting rights????
KS Toronado
(17,191 posts)and they can't win elections without cheating. Just ridding the U.S. of gerrymandering as HR1 is written,
would cost them plenty of seats in the house and senate.
homegirl
(1,428 posts)drray23
(7,627 posts)only some elected state officials and this depends on the state .
homegirl
(1,428 posts)passing on that important information. Learn something new every day.
Only option is to hound them out of office. Challenge them at every public appearance, sit down occuparions of their offices and postcard campaigns.
tiptonic
(765 posts)Just wondering how much, of the 'campaign contributions' is in rubbles.
littlemissmartypants
(22,631 posts)The senator says he wont back a crucial voting rights bill because its too partisan. What he means is that white conservatives dont like it.
By Elie Mystal
JUNE 8, 2021
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Manchin is enabling the disenfranchisement of Black and brown voters solely on the grounds that white conservatives dont want those people to vote. That alone is enough for him. He doesnt need a policy or principle to stand on; he doesnt need to evaluate or understand why white conservatives are against equality. The mere objection of whites is apparently all Manchin needs to make his decision.
Thats how Jim Crow works, in a nutshell. History focuses on the evildoers who come up with the racist policies and the bad intentions behind them, but it ignores the role of white people like Manchin who value comity over justice. You cannot have a system of political apartheid without the help of such white people. You cannot disenfranchise a minority without a bunch of people in the majority hiding behind process and a false promise of peace in order to justify injustice. Manchins essay is an important part of upholding white supremacy because he treats it like it doesnt exist.
Manchin thinks he can get away with this not because West Virginia is predominately white but because he intuits that most white people in West Virginia probably dont care about stopping white supremacy. They likely dont think that disenfranchising Black people is that big a dealcertainly not big enough to oust a senator. Manchin might get primaried, but if he loses it will be because he failed to deliver an infrastructure package, not because he thinks the 15th Amendment is just a suggestion.
Unfortunately, this has always been the true strength of white supremacist policies: They cant be stopped unless enough white people give a damn. And there are never quite enough. In this case, a single white senator feels empowered to block an entire popular bill aimed at securing the most basic right in a democracy and doesnt even feel the need to give a good reason as to why.
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Much more at the link.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/manchin-voting-rights/
Excellent opinion piece, imo.
❤ pants
Joinfortmill
(14,413 posts)panfluteman
(2,065 posts)However, what is foremost on his mind is: Where's my dark money coming from? If this voting rights bill, or something very much like it, doesn't pass, and quickly, American democracy is sunk.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)by his name
Red Mountain
(1,730 posts)for what his people need.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Seeing as how she's far too professional and bright to rest merely on empty slogans, I'm almost quite confident she'll soon provide evidence to support her charge.
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)Recommended.
Kid Berwyn
(14,865 posts)Fred Gardner
Counterpunch.org, June 10, 2021
Excerpt...
After some superficial improvements (a stronger spring, clearer instructions) that supposedly justified raising prices, Mylan began its big marketing push in 2009. With almost 90% of the market, their key goal was to get every school in the US to keep EpiPens on hand. Children face the highest risk of a fatal response because many never been exposed to the substance theyre allergic to. Adults generally know what theyre allergic to and try to avoid exposure or carry the antidote.
As Governor of West Virginia, Joe Manchin had appointed his wife to the state Board of Education in 2007. By 2012 Gayle Conelly Manchin would be president of the National Association of State Boards of Education, an official-sounding-but-private outfit that lobbies state boards to adopt policies favored by Association members. In 2016 USA Today (a paper that doesnt get enough credit for serious muckraking) reported that Mrs. Manchin had spearheaded an unprecedented effort that encouraged states to require schools to purchase medical devices that fight life-threatening allergic reactions.
The associations move helped pave the way for Mylan Specialty, maker of EpiPens, to develop a near monopoly in school nurses offices. Eleven states drafted laws requiring epinephrine auto-injectors. Nearly every other state recommended schools stock them after what the White House called the EpiPen Law in 2013 gave funding preference to those that did.
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Heathers brilliant career was launched after Joe Manchin introduced her to the CEO of Mylan. Although her claim to have a Masters Degree in Business Administration was exposed as a lie, her fast rise to the top was unimpeded. Heather had something better than a degree, she had real audacity. And so she quadrupled the price of a drug that several million US Americans must have on hand and buy every year. (Somebody ought to confirm that epinephrine degrades significantly in a year. It might be a pseudo-scientific marketing device like Dial Soaps famous Rinse and repeat.)
Heathers salary rose from $2.5 million in 2007 to $18.9 million in 2015. She was then 45 years old and would have become the poster child of Pharmaceutical Industry Greed had it not been for Martin Shkreli, who raised the price of the anti-parasitic drug Diapram from $13.50 to $750. Then the publicity-welcoming pharma bro won the auction for the worlds only copy of a hip-hop album by Wu-Tang Clan. Shkreli was sentenced to seven years and may still be doing time for securities fraud, but presumably, he got to enjoy Once Upon a Time in Shaolin before the 2-CD rarity was seized by the feds.
Heather is married to a corporate lawyer named Jeffrey Bresch whose firm represents, in addition to numerous Fortune 500 companies, the Pennsylvania Republican Party in its challenge to the validity of votes mailed in on Election Day in 2020. (But thats another story). Heather retired at age 50 in 2020 after arranging Mylans merger with Upjohn. The first woman to head a Fortune 500 Pharmaceutical company, her accomplishments included Mylans acquisition of Abbott Laboratories and a transfer of corporate headquarters to the Netherlands, bringing the merged companies tax rate down from 24% to 21%. The moral of the story is: you dont really need an MBA to be a successful corporate executive.
Continues...
https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/10/manchin-family-values/
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)but I don't believe in coincidence.
I love that AOC is willing to put the cards on the table. I love "the Squad," as they represent people like me.
Kid Berwyn
(14,865 posts)Were called human beings.
And why were Democrats.
Hotler
(11,415 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)The Wizard
(12,541 posts)of Koch.
The Wizard
(12,541 posts)have to gain 3 more Senate seats. Right now Manchin alone determines the future of our constitutional democracy.
burrowowl
(17,637 posts)Lithos
(26,403 posts)Someone needs to suggest an investigation into dark money and him is about to happen...
See the whites of his eyes - turn yellow. Along with his pants and the floor....
L-
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)there was no way McConnell would let come to a vote. He could look good but not have to act.
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)where is the nuclear option when you need it??
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)MarcoZandrini
(39 posts).....Koch whore. There, I said it.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)🤬🤬🤬