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hlthe2b
(102,192 posts)malaise
(268,846 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)pretty skeptical.
zaj
(3,433 posts)bigtree
(85,984 posts)...including:
The Voting Rights Act of 1965
Voting Accessibility for the Elderly and Handicapped Act of 1984
The Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act of 1986
The National Voter Registration Act of 1993
The Help America Vote Act of 2002
https://www.justice.gov/crt/statutes-enforced-voting-section
cases: https://www.justice.gov/crt/voting-section-litigation
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)It takes all three branches of government to protect voting rights.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)Are there voting rights laws currently on the books that, if enforced aggressively, would thwart the Jim Crow 2.0 laws currently being passed by states?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)They aren't as strong as they were before Shelby, but they're still there.
The Voting Rights Act is still the law. The Act's preclearance provision, which provided a very robust proactive method for preventing the suppression of voting rights, was gutted by the Supreme Court. But other sections of the act that allow for individual lawsuits to be brought is still in place.
That's one of the things that Merrick Garland talked about today - the fact that the preclearance provision is gone means they must rely on the other provisions for bringing lawsuits case by case and state by state, which is really hard, but doable. You may have heard him say "We're going to need a lot more lawyers." That's what he was talking about.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)I mean, if no election has yet been held in a state with new Jim Crow laws, who has been injured, who would the plaintiff be?
IANAL, this is an honest question.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Several suits have already been filed.
Response to MoonRiver (Original post)
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PortTack
(32,750 posts)Kristen Clarke recently appointed to the civil rights division of the doj is the perfect person for this challenge
Specifically, the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution prohibits states from taking away their citizens rights without due process of law. One such right, of course, is the right to vote. And the Supreme Court has made clear many times, in more than a hundred years worth of precedents, that the constitutional right to vote does not just mean the right to put a ballot in a box, but also the right to have that ballot counted toward determining the elections results. For a state legislature to invalidate a popular election would be equivalent to simply refusing to count the citizens votes. The Constitution unambiguously prohibits disenfranchising any eligible voters, much less an entire states worth.
More at the link
https://www.justsecurity.org/73274/no-state-legislatures-cannot-overrule-the-popular-vote/
brooklynite
(94,479 posts)The Constitution grants States the absolute right to decide how Electors for President are selected.
PortTack
(32,750 posts)Each party selects electors
This from a SCOTUS decision 7/2020
And second, the Courts decision reinforces the validity of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Under National Popular Vote, states that combine for at least 270 electoral votes agree to award their electors to the presidential candidate who wins the most individual votes across the nation. (Fifteen states and the District of Columbia, totaling 196 electoral votes, have already passed the measure.)
In the 18 states currently without faithless elector laws, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in a manner identical to the system that they have been using for over 200 years. In these states (which currently use the state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes), the presidential electors are chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate that receives the most votes within the state
More at the link
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/07/14/supreme-courts-faithless-electors-decision-validates-case-for-the-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/
brooklynite
(94,479 posts)They are under no obligation to do so.
PortTack
(32,750 posts)brooklynite
(94,479 posts)As long as they decide, before the next election, to eliminate a popular vote, theyre perfectly within their Constitutional rights to leave the decision to the State Legislature alone.
brooklynite
(94,479 posts)The Constitution grants States the absolute right to decide how Electors for President are selected.
CatWoman
(79,294 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,376 posts)WarGamer
(12,424 posts)Takket
(21,550 posts)WarGamer
(12,424 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)PortTack
(32,750 posts)Judges, right up to an including SCOTUS
WarGamer
(12,424 posts)The Judiciary would be a minefield to say the least.
States will sue and take it to Court.
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)Where's the plan for accountability?