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https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-refuses-joint-press-conference-with-putin-white-house-says?ref=homeBiden Refuses Joint Press Conference with Putin: White House
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Nico Hines, World Editor
Updated Jun. 12, 2021 8:33AM ET /
Published Jun. 12, 2021 8:30AM ET
Deuxcents
(16,157 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,063 posts)underpants
(182,734 posts)Russia is almost third world in terms of everything other than just having a butt ton of money (highly concentrated)
Ocelot II
(115,659 posts)The butt-ton of money is Putin's and his goons'.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)...#11 in a field of 195 isn't nothing.
Imagine being the 11th richest American...or even the 11th richest in your city or town.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)The US is 7th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Haggard Celine
(16,843 posts)shouldn't be on an equal footing with our President.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)AZ8theist
(5,449 posts)Russia was put ahead of us for the last 4 years by a vile treasonous imbecile.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)I was not carefully parsing the post to which I was replying, but just making the point that, while leaders of totalitarian countries should not be on an equal footing with POTUS, they were, for a time. Putin was kind of an outlier, for the reason you stated, but generally speaking, there was much more equity among them then than now.
AZ8theist
(5,449 posts)I wasn't criticizing your post, merely pointing out the obvious. We should not reward a murderous dictator like Putin by kissing his ass like the traitorous imbecile did for 4 years.
I applaud Biden for telling Putin to SIT DOWN, figuratively speaking.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts).. their nukes and the ability to launch them. Other than that they are pretty much nothing but, per Obama, a gas station pretending to be a country.
underpants
(182,734 posts)Thanks OBAMA!
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)malaise
(268,856 posts)That is all
Cha
(297,048 posts)Soldiers in Afghanistan & trump letting it happen.
Would the fucking RT give Pres Biden a PLATFORM?!
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)- John McCain
They are a smaller country, they are a weaker country, their economy doesn't produce anything that anybody wants to buy except oil and gas and arms."
- Barack Obama
TexasBushwhacker
(20,165 posts)But so does everyone else. There's even a couple of good vodkas made in TEXAS - Deep Eddy and Tito's Handmade Vodka.
Fifth Generation makes Tito's, and its founder is Tito Beveridge. They gave a $1 Million grant to COVID-19 vaccine research.
TheBlackAdder
(28,181 posts).
Most corporate owned stations will sell their brand, except when a delivery shortage.
Most private-owned gas stations, or private-owned brand name gas stations have a minimum monthly quote, after they reach that limit, they are open to buy gas from any shitty brand-x supplier. That's their way of making extra profit on a small-margin product. So, those large brand named stations might be selling your Russian gas.
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Lonestarblue
(9,963 posts)If they did not have nuclear weapons, they would simply be another small, struggling country.
calimary
(81,189 posts)Makes me Hoppe for a world not powered by gas and oil - to take away one of their strongest cards.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)A Trailer Park with Nukes
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)Makes the US a more dominant player on the world stage. Makes Russia a pariah regime that it is.
Biden will let the rest of the world know Russia has been put on notice for its dirty tricks in allowing hackers safe harbor, the attempted murder of political rivals, occupation of parts of Ukraine, and their overall intentions to disrupt NATO. All with that Irish smile of his.
For Putin does not take humiliation very well.
bucolic_frolic
(43,120 posts)Name another president with almost 50 years of experience at the highest level of national government - important junior Senator, VP.
There have been governors, Senators, senior government officials, even an occasional former Congressman, of shorter duration. I'd bet Biden has the biggest top level national and global network in a president ever. We're frustrated there isn't instant progress, but that mind is working on everything.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)Be spouting off how Joe embarrassed the US, and how nasty he was to Putie.
What else have they to talk about?
Mr.Bill
(24,263 posts)is afraid of Putin.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)bamagal62
(3,246 posts)Autumn
(45,027 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Oneironaut
(5,491 posts)Whos a good doggie? Roll over for Pootie! Woof! Woof!
Aristus
(66,309 posts)They will no doubt bleat that Joe Biden is being 'uncivil, un-Presidential, un-American', and whatever 'un' they can think of...
dianaredwing
(406 posts)I don't give a F..., do you?
Aristus
(66,309 posts)If any of them were to fall out a high window or succumb to polonium poisoning, I probably wouldn't send flowers to the funeral.
PatSeg
(47,361 posts)the more petty and often ridiculous the criticisms will be. We all remember how they treated Barack Obama. When there is no valid complaints, they will go after clothes, food choices, mannerisms, and even the dogs. These are silly, superficial creatures, lacking in intellect, principles, or substance. The "Na, na, boo, boo" and "I'm rubber, you're glue" wing of American politics. If they can't be as good as their opponent, they will tear him or her down.
They probably cheat at poker and golf as well.
Aristus
(66,309 posts)But at the time, I remember being slightly gobsmacked that the Republicans, so desperate to make President Obama into the monster of their racist fever-dreams, decided to literally make a Federal case out of the fact that he wore a smart, stylish, well-tailored suit. The horror!...
The barbecue sauce-stained sweatsuit brigade had the living gall to throw shade at President Obama's wardrobe...
PatSeg
(47,361 posts)Tan suits and mustard? That was best they could come up with? There was also some crap about him bowing to a foreign leader. They remind me of the petty neighborhood gossip, the one who always has something negative to say about other people. Ridiculous absurd stuff of no consequence at all and often not even true. The motivation is usually jealousy and a need for attention.
You know, I loved that tan suit and I wish he'd just kept wearing it to let them know, he wasn't going to let them get to him.
LakeArenal
(28,812 posts)PatSeg
(47,361 posts)international diplomacy?" How do you pick one? So many disasters in just four years.
LakeArenal
(28,812 posts)Malarias fuck you coat was the cherry on that sundae.
Whenever I come up with one, then another one pops in my head. There were so many, it is hard to keep track. I guess the hardest part is I still cannot entirely accept that such a perverse monster was actually President of the United States.
I think it is important that we keep discussing his presidency, to make sure we keep the outrageous stories alive. After GW left the White House, his image gradually became less offensive. It was even worse with Reagan. Republicans turned him into a damn saint. We can't let that ever happen with Trump.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)how to behave with any grace or simple good manners, I doubt that he will be able to "rehabilitate" his image as other "former guys" seem to have. Reagan, W. Bush, etc. never displayed the sheer MEANESS that is so much a part of Trump (although Dubya could be pretty thoughtless, as in making fun of a death row inmate). Donald used to complain about not being accepted by New York society, seeming not to realize that nobody else who WAS accepted behaved with the utter boorishness he displayed on a daily basis.
PatSeg
(47,361 posts)If the horrible memories of Trump start to fade, he is right there to remind us that yes, he was every bit as bad as we thought, maybe even worse. I agree about Bush. He could be thoughtless and extremely incompetent, but for the most part, he wasn't inherently mean. Trump wears his meanness and cruelty like a badge of honor. For him it apparently is synonymous with strength, something he is really hung up on.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)It is that a majority...of the Elector College voters counted.....will NOT be rehabilitated. And in fact, be forever changed to now accept a foul mouthed liar, a cheater, a sexual deviant, a narcissist as their leader...if that is the only way to win. Trump has done something that no other Republican leader has done, broken the shit encrusted glass ceiling.
For seemingly forever, at least since the sixties, the Democrats were the unGodly heathens who swore, engaged in the "sexual revolution", which included among other things, cheating on spouses, wife swapping and other free love beliefs. Didn't believe in Law and Order and protested violently.
While the Republicans were the believers in God. And Family (the only true configuration). And good money management. They never took the Lord's name in vain, never used bad language or ugly insults. Didn't lie.......publicly. Lie with an air of entitlement to the point of blatancy, and arrogance of "so what? what are you going to do?"
No, the real danger is the flip side of that. The GQP are now conditioned to fight even dirtier than ever. And their supporters are clearly on board with that.
ShazzieB
(16,352 posts)However, the love affair with Kim Jong Un is one that stands out for me. His worship of "tough guy" dictators in general was horrifying, but that one really took the disgustingly nasty cake, imo.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)remember George W.:
"If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier... as long as I'm the dictator."
PatSeg
(47,361 posts)He couldn't even pretend to be a democracy loving leader. Guess he thought physically hugging the flag was as much patriotism as he needed to display and shockingly his base seemed to think so as well.
LudwigPastorius
(9,127 posts)Yeah, the love letters between Trump and Kim Jong un have got to be considered as one of the lowest.
PatSeg
(47,361 posts)When it comes to low points, he was constantly outdoing himself.
onetexan
(13,033 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Joint press conferences are for allies not murderous tyrants.
NJCher
(35,647 posts)remember the uproar when trump appeared with Kim Jung Il? The criticism (well deserved) was that he was giving away the store, a major PR event for a cruel dictator who is a threat to the entire world.
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Gave Putin an interview. Been on every time I flip.
CNN has my viewer ship.
Joinfortmill
(14,408 posts)TraceNC
(254 posts)maxsolomon
(33,281 posts)He is pretty good at what he does, and how he utilizes the tu quoque fallacy. No reason to legitimize it.
dweller
(23,622 posts)and I thought there would be a meeting in secret with no one else present but a translator sworn to secrecy
and no notes
How things have changed
✌🏻
Johonny
(20,828 posts)Aviation Pro
(12,141 posts)The Russian people are sick and fucking tired of this little troll and he'll end up slipping and falling out of 40th story window shortly.
NJCher
(35,647 posts)I'd like to see his roly poly little face coming out of his hidey hole to face the music.
He's such a cocky little bastard. Got those vibes when I saw him interviewed last night. I couldn't stand to watch him for two hours, so I won't be watching the jerk any more.
Pachamama
(16,886 posts)He is rather pathetic and repulsive
Traildogbob
(8,709 posts)Agree about denying him a Platform. A criminal murderous thug. We refuse to give mass shooters air time.
So, riddle me this......why the fuck is MSNBC ranting about their exclusive interview with Pootie Pie?
I know that answer, cash and ratings.
Why Trump and trumpism has been able to destroy our country.
These fools would have a prime time exclusive with Hitler.
I would say Satan, but they have done that this last 4+ years. In all his Orange glory.
bucolic_frolic
(43,120 posts)in defense of MSNBC
1) They try not to be Faux News by airing all sides
2) A superpower head of state is big news and sometimes the light of day exposes his agenda more than he thinks
Traildogbob
(8,709 posts)But under current circumstances, Putin should not be made to seem normal. I damn sure hope Thuck Chodd is not asking him any questions. And, considering how Fox or News Max or OAN would kiss his butt while slamming Biden if they had a Pootie exclusive, this is not so bad. Could ya imagine a Hannity interview with him, while praising Trump as the greatest ever? Hannity and Tucker would be on their knees begging Pootie to help us get Trump back in power, if not trying to get Pootie to run in 2024 as the newest GQP Messiah.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)GoodRaisin
(8,921 posts)His yellow streak on full display to the rest of the world. Horrible.
moondust
(19,971 posts)Pooty would probably like to get back into the G7. No deal. No place for murderous despots.
dlk
(11,540 posts)Theres a new sheriff in town.
Hekate
(90,624 posts)Blue Owl
(50,335 posts)Marthe48
(16,928 posts)putin belongs in the dust bin of history. President Biden let him know that GO Joe!
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)of the United States.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)No affirmation or legitimizing of that kleptocratic killer!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Ps putie gonna have another sad.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)first five months.