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underpants

(182,776 posts)
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 10:44 AM Jun 2021

⚽️ Denmark's Christian Eriksen (29) suffered cardiac arrest, was 'gone' before resuscitation

Denmark's Christian Eriksen suffered cardiac arrest, was 'gone' before resuscitation - team doctor

https://www.espn.com/soccer/denmark-den/story/4407267/denmarks-christian-eriksen-gone-before-cardiac-resuscitation-team-doctor

Denmark midfielder Christian Eriksen was "gone" before he was resuscitated after suffering a cardiac arrest, the team's doctor, Morten Boesen, said in a news conference Sunday.

Eriksen, 29, is in a stable condition after he was taken to a hospital in Copenhagen on Saturday after he collapsed on the pitch during Denmark's Euro 2020 opener against Finland.

"He was gone, and we did cardiac resuscitation. It was a cardiac arrest," Boesen said. "How close were we [to losing Eriksen]? I don't know.

"We got him back after one defibrillator, so that's quite fast. I'm not a cardiologist, so the details I will leave to the experts at the hospital."

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⚽️ Denmark's Christian Eriksen (29) suffered cardiac arrest, was 'gone' before resuscitation (Original Post) underpants Jun 2021 OP
What a stupid headline, it leaves the impression he didn't survive, which isn't true. Do these JohnSJ Jun 2021 #1
That's what I thought. Maraya1969 Jun 2021 #2
The headline is intentionally misleading JohnSJ Jun 2021 #3
That pisses me off even more. A way to get you to read something by being misleading. Maraya1969 Jun 2021 #10
It's not misleading. His heart stopped. LisaL Jun 2021 #27
Resuscitation is reviving someone after apparent unconsciousness or death. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #6
The headline he was gone before resuscitation is not ambiguous to you? JohnSJ Jun 2021 #7
You can't resuscitate someone who isn't gone, literally or hyperbolically. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #8
That wasn't my question. Do you think the headline was clear? JohnSJ Jun 2021 #11
Yes. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #13
It depends on the meaning readers give to gone. I think many take it as final karynnj Jun 2021 #19
The headline is correct but Disaffected Jun 2021 #18
once you read the body of the article, not from the headline. JohnSJ Jun 2021 #20
Perfectly reasonable headline... brooklynite Jun 2021 #15
Perfectly reasonable headline... brooklynite Jun 2021 #16
He had no pulse. Renew Deal Jun 2021 #17
The headline didn't say "he had no pulse", the headline said he was GONE JohnSJ Jun 2021 #21
He was gone Renew Deal Jun 2021 #23
He was gone. His heart wasn't beating. LisaL Jun 2021 #25
Using the word gone, I read as he died before they were able to get to resuscitate him JohnSJ Jun 2021 #28
His heart stopped, so during that time he was "temporarily dead" until his heart was LisaL Jun 2021 #24
"temporarily dead" instead of "gone" would seem to make more sense to me JohnSJ Jun 2021 #29
That's the end of his career ornotna Jun 2021 #4
Texting with friends as this was going on, one mentioned Hank Gathers underpants Jun 2021 #14
I am assuming it depends on what caused the cardiac arrest. LisaL Jun 2021 #22
I was watching that game genxlib Jun 2021 #5
Absolutely, you can get enough blood circulating to sustain viability until defibrillation for quite JohnSJ Jun 2021 #9
Yep. " Staying Alive" underpants Jun 2021 #12
Qnutters are saying this happened because he got the vaccine. Nevilledog Jun 2021 #26
He might have not been vaccinated at all. LisaL Jun 2021 #30

JohnSJ

(92,152 posts)
1. What a stupid headline, it leaves the impression he didn't survive, which isn't true. Do these
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 10:47 AM
Jun 2021

so-called journalists takes courses in communication?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
27. It's not misleading. His heart stopped.
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:53 AM
Jun 2021

During the period of time his heart wasn't beating, he was gone.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
6. Resuscitation is reviving someone after apparent unconsciousness or death.
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 10:58 AM
Jun 2021

So it seems accurate to me, if redundant.

JohnSJ

(92,152 posts)
7. The headline he was gone before resuscitation is not ambiguous to you?
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:00 AM
Jun 2021

He was GONE before resuscitation

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
19. It depends on the meaning readers give to gone. I think many take it as final
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:31 AM
Jun 2021

Looking at the article the word was a quote from the team doctor, but it might have been better to use a less flashy, but accurate headline.

Your correct point that you do not resuscitate someone who is conscious points to the problem in the headline. It would have made more sense to say he suffered a cardiac arrest, but was resuscitated. This captures the seriousness with both facts.

I hope that he regains his health completely.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
18. The headline is correct but
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:30 AM
Jun 2021

only for a very limited definition of "gone". Most folks would (reasonably) interpret the headline as meaning he died before resuscitation could revive him.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
15. Perfectly reasonable headline...
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:25 AM
Jun 2021

People know he survived the collapse; the headline frames how serious the situation was.

If he’d been jogging alone in the woods and that happened, he’d be dead.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
16. Perfectly reasonable headline...
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:25 AM
Jun 2021

People know he survived the collapse; the headline frames how serious the situation was.

If he’d been jogging alone in the woods and that happened, he’d be dead.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
25. He was gone. His heart wasn't beating.
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jun 2021

For a period of time, until it was restarted. I don't understand what your objection is.

JohnSJ

(92,152 posts)
28. Using the word gone, I read as he died before they were able to get to resuscitate him
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jun 2021

Obviously most people think I am full of it, and the headline was crystal clear

and that is fine




LisaL

(44,973 posts)
24. His heart stopped, so during that time he was "temporarily dead" until his heart was
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:51 AM
Jun 2021

restarted.

JohnSJ

(92,152 posts)
29. "temporarily dead" instead of "gone" would seem to make more sense to me
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:56 AM
Jun 2021

even using no pulse, heart stopped, etc. The word "gone" implies to me, dead


genxlib

(5,524 posts)
5. I was watching that game
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jun 2021

I thought he was really gone. It was hard to watch. You could see them doing chest compressions for a long time and I saw him spasm when they shocked him. I was shocked when they showed him awake on the stretcher.

Learn CPR people. It can save a life

And before any rumors start, his team doctor already said he never had Covid

JohnSJ

(92,152 posts)
9. Absolutely, you can get enough blood circulating to sustain viability until defibrillation for quite
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:06 AM
Jun 2021

some time

underpants

(182,776 posts)
12. Yep. " Staying Alive"
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:08 AM
Jun 2021

104 beats per minute that’s the pace for compressions. No assisted breathing is necessary anymore but if you can or if there is anyone else there give it a shot.

108 beats is actually preferable but that’s the count on “Another One Bites the Dust” AC/DC so they use The Bee Gees song as the standard.

And now it's alright, it's okay
And you may look the other way
We can try to understand
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Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
26. Qnutters are saying this happened because he got the vaccine.
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jun 2021

Of course, it's complete fabrication.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
30. He might have not been vaccinated at all.
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jun 2021

"“He didn’t have COVID and wasn’t vaccinated either,” he told Rai Sport.He said Eriksen was under the guidance of the Danish medical staff and it was for them to release information but Inter had been in touch with them."

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/football/inter-milan-director-says-christian-eriksen-did-not-have-covid-was-not-vaccinated-7356985/

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