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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:16 PM Jun 2021

Caitlyn Jenner is miffed that Jimmy Kimmel called her "Trump in a wig"


"Where is the outrage from the left or LGBT community? Being WOKE must be optional if you are a Democrat."

By Alex Bollinger Monday, June 14, 2021

California gubernatorial candidate Caitlyn Jenner lashed out at comedian Jimmy Kimmel, calling him transphobic for a joke about how her political style is similar to Donald Trump’s.

“Are you sure that isn’t Donald Trump in a Caitlyn Jenner wig?” Kimmel joked on Jimmy Kimmel Live! last week before showing photos of the two side-by-side making the same faces.

“He obviously believes that trans women are simply men with wigs on,” Jenner said on Twitter. “Where is the outrage from the left or LGBT community? Being WOKE must be optional if you are a Democrat.”




Jenner went on a Twitter tirade against Kimmel, bringing up racist and sexist jokes he has made in the past, as well as a sketch where he used blackface. Kimmel apologized last year for the blackface sketch.

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https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/06/caitlyn-jenner-miffed-jimmy-kimmel-called-trump-wig/



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Caitlyn Jenner is miffed that Jimmy Kimmel called her "Trump in a wig" (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2021 OP
You mocked Rachel Levine's appearance. Dawson Leery Jun 2021 #1
I think she has a point. Mosby Jun 2021 #2
I disagree. SoonerPride Jun 2021 #7
Cause making fun of transgender women is fun! AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #12
He wasn't making fun of transgendered women SoonerPride Jun 2021 #15
No, he was mocking a trans woman AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #20
Bullshit. SoonerPride Jun 2021 #22
Okay then AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #27
Would it be knocking MTG's gender if he said the same thing about her? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2021 #35
Go up to a transwoman and tell her she looks like a man in a wig AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #46
I think she actually does wear a wig or has wig extensions...it's been in the HLYWD gossipy news... Chakaconcarne Jun 2021 #51
It's hard to take any Kardashian seriously. nt leftyladyfrommo Jun 2021 #57
Exactly, he could have said the same thing about any woman. Makes no difference she is trans Lettuce Be Jun 2021 #59
This! PortTack Jun 2021 #64
I agree. Cha Jun 2021 #68
Not a shock! Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #14
🙄 SoonerPride Jun 2021 #18
Agree 1000% beaglelover Jun 2021 #62
Of course you do. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #17
See my reply above SoonerPride Jun 2021 #19
Yet you support mocking her transgender identity AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #21
I don't see it that way. YMMV. SoonerPride Jun 2021 #25
Completely agree with you. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #24
Thank you. SoonerPride Jun 2021 #26
Then why is he talking about her wearing a wig? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #29
She does, but don't say that around here nt AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #42
Yes, Kimmel was absolutely using dog-whistle so loud, it's not even a dog whistle Bucky Jun 2021 #52
i think she's full of shit CatWoman Jun 2021 #71
... Faux pas Jun 2021 #3
Could have called her Guilliani whistler162 Jun 2021 #4
Cause transgender women are just men in drag! Got it! nt AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #43
... DonViejo Jun 2021 #49
Hey, you're the one who started this AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #50
No, you started it when I posted a news article from LGBTQ Nation web site, DonViejo Jun 2021 #55
Thank you. Bucky Jun 2021 #58
Can't stand Jenner. Talk about entitled! flying_wahini Jun 2021 #5
She is against "the outrage from the left or LGBT community". Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #6
Actually, it's the same thing as right wing women Bettie Jun 2021 #8
Pretty sure he meant she is a dumbass with longer hair. Takket Jun 2021 #9
Of course that was part of his intent. But his use of dog whistle hate language is the problem. Bucky Jun 2021 #60
I don't care about this fucking idiot. BlueStater Jun 2021 #10
Caitlyn honey, markbark Jun 2021 #11
Last thing we need is another twisted, narcissistic TraceNC Jun 2021 #13
Thank you. SoonerPride Jun 2021 #16
So criticize her politics and her experience AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #23
Not sure how you think she was mocked for being trans. /nt tonedevil Jun 2021 #28
Not sure how you can't see what is blindingly obvious nt AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #30
Blindingly obvious... tonedevil Jun 2021 #33
Mocking a transgender woman for wearing a wig and comparing her to a man AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #37
Saying somone is wearing a wig... tonedevil Jun 2021 #41
Comparing a trans woman to a man in a wig absolutely is AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #45
OK. /nt tonedevil Jun 2021 #48
Kimmel didn't say a thing about that. TraceNC Jun 2021 #31
Well, fatphobia has been acceptable here forever AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #32
Another "phobia." TraceNC Jun 2021 #34
Gonna bring up cancel culture next? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #36
Nah. TraceNC Jun 2021 #38
I'm not the one saying fat jokes and transgender jokes are okay AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #40
So, if someone said that Marjorie Taylor Greene is a female version of Trump... Yavin4 Jun 2021 #39
Those looking for "targeted" offense won't see it that way, but I agree with you. hlthe2b Jun 2021 #44
Only if she wears a wig DonViejo Jun 2021 #47
stopped clock is right twice a day Orangepeel Jun 2021 #53
+1 Mosby Jun 2021 #65
+1 Withywindle Jun 2021 #70
The LGBT community, of which I am a part of, does not care for you. You do NOT support the beaglelover Jun 2021 #54
Boo hoo LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #56
I don't think being transgender makes a horrid person above criticism alphafemale Jun 2021 #61
Analogy: gqp rep Byron donalds is butt hurt that he is being refused entry to the CBC PortTack Jun 2021 #67
And women of certain ages or body type are particular targets for having their looks mocked. alphafemale Jun 2021 #69
Stop letting stupid people talk! :) BootinUp Jun 2021 #63
It suffices to say that woman is an airhead, but I'm not a late-night comedian. If a side by side... Hekate Jun 2021 #66
Caitlin Jenner sucks and is a terrible person, but, this is transphobic. Oneironaut Jun 2021 #72
This! AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #73
"Are you sure that isn't Donald Trump in a MTG wig?" scipan Jun 2021 #74
so she is part of a party that despises LGBTQ folk Skittles Jun 2021 #75

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
15. He wasn't making fun of transgendered women
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:34 PM
Jun 2021

He was pointing out Jenner is just a trump
Clone.

I don’t care if Jenner is trans.

I do care that she is awful in about 100,000 ways.

Fuck that entitled numb skull.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,070 posts)
20. No, he was mocking a trans woman
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jun 2021

Criticize her beliefs, not her gender/sexuality. But she's a Republican, so bigotry is okay here, I guess.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,343 posts)
35. Would it be knocking MTG's gender if he said the same thing about her?
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jun 2021

Is it a Trans issue? I don’t know. Maybe it is.

Chakaconcarne

(2,462 posts)
51. I think she actually does wear a wig or has wig extensions...it's been in the HLYWD gossipy news...
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:25 PM
Jun 2021

So I could see that being the reference and a grey area whether it's mocking her or not....

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
18. 🙄
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:38 PM
Jun 2021

As a lifelong member of the LGBT community I will not suffer fools like Jenner.

Fuck her.

She is a gigantic piece of shit.

Her trans identity doesn’t make her immune from criticism.

Crunchy Frog

(26,646 posts)
24. Completely agree with you.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:44 PM
Jun 2021

She's being mocked for being a Trumpanzee, not for being trans.

It's just the typical RW game of playing perpetual victim. People are just more likely to buy it in her case.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,070 posts)
29. Then why is he talking about her wearing a wig?
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:46 PM
Jun 2021

It's obvious what he's saying, and why he's using that attack. But everyone here is okay because she's a Trumper.
Got it, bigotry is okay if the target is Republican.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
52. Yes, Kimmel was absolutely using dog-whistle so loud, it's not even a dog whistle
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jun 2021

Hey I like Jimmy Kimmel and I loathe Caitlyn Jenner's politics. Among other things, she's a hypocrite on this very issue of ridiculing Trans people in the past herself.

But that doesn't make Kimmel transphobic comments okay. He crossed a line and he needs to apologize.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,070 posts)
50. Hey, you're the one who started this
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jun 2021

Now we've gone to comparing the transwoman to the straight man in drag. But it's okay, because you're mocking Republicans.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
55. No, you started it when I posted a news article from LGBTQ Nation web site,
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jun 2021

deciding you were holier than any member of the LGBTQ Community who is agreeing with Kimmel was a bigot.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
58. Thank you.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:30 PM
Jun 2021

Kimmel's comment was not okay. Just because he's generally supportive of trans rights doesn't mean he can uses denigrating language.

This probably wouldn't be so much of an issue, but we have a problem of transphobic murders in this country. It's not an acceptable topic to spread ignorance, misinformation, and scorn about.

flying_wahini

(6,651 posts)
5. Can't stand Jenner. Talk about entitled!
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jun 2021


Jenner has a lot of nerve to run on her celebrity status. That’s all she has.
An extra large EGO just like Trump.

Voltaire2

(13,175 posts)
6. She is against "the outrage from the left or LGBT community".
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jun 2021

So she can shut the fuck up. Although she does have a point. Her wig is much better than Trump's.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
8. Actually, it's the same thing as right wing women
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jun 2021

who declare that they are "Trump in heels"...it was more about her utter devotion to everything "Trumpy".

If you are looking for a paragon who never says the wrong thing, Jimmy Kimmel is not the person you should be looking to.

I don't think there is a person in existence who has never ever said the wrong thing.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
60. Of course that was part of his intent. But his use of dog whistle hate language is the problem.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:36 PM
Jun 2021

Promoting denigration of trans women in a society that has a SERIOUS problem with trans women being murdered by people who don't regard them as "real women" is feeding into the violence. Kimmel was wrong. You don't have to like Caitlyn Jenner to see she has the right to not be called out for what she is. She doesn't enough stupid hypocritical shit that you can dislike her for what she does. No prejudice needed.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
10. I don't care about this fucking idiot.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jun 2021

Not only is she utterly stupid, she has no charisma at all. A boring dunce with the personality of a stump. Go away.

markbark

(1,562 posts)
11. Caitlyn honey,
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jun 2021

You _DO_ realize that Trump would like to see all trans folk, including the ones who voted for him, dead, right?


TraceNC

(254 posts)
13. Last thing we need is another twisted, narcissistic
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jun 2021

reality tv clown in politics. We just rid ourselves of one.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,070 posts)
37. Mocking a transgender woman for wearing a wig and comparing her to a man
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jun 2021

Nope, nothing transphobic there at all. But this is a Democratic board, so bigotry against Republicans is okay.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
41. Saying somone is wearing a wig...
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:02 PM
Jun 2021

is not mocking and nothing in the statement indicates it is in reference to Caitlin being trans. As has been mentioned in this thread cisgendered women have been called Trump in heels and donald was called Sarah Palin with bigger tits.

TraceNC

(254 posts)
31. Kimmel didn't say a thing about that.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:47 PM
Jun 2021

I wish I could remember who said this but in 2016 someone called Trump “Sarah Palin with bigger tits.”

So this form of a joke is nothing new. If anything, Kimmel’s joke that Jenner is basically Trump wasn’t even that original.

TraceNC

(254 posts)
34. Another "phobia."
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jun 2021

Okay.

It’s easy: if you don’t like what a tv host/comedian says, don’t watch. I don’t find Kimmel very entertaining so I don’t watch and I wonder how many people would have even heard about this had it not been spread by the outrage army. Who knows. I guess some people just aren’t happy unless they’re angry about something.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,070 posts)
36. Gonna bring up cancel culture next?
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jun 2021

Going through a lot of convolutions to cover up that you think mocking people's weight and their gender is okay.

TraceNC

(254 posts)
38. Nah.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:58 PM
Jun 2021

It’s obvious here and in the other part of this thread that you’re reacting to this on a purely emotional basis, which is why you’re not arguing with substance but rather lashing out at people. Doesn’t bother me, but let’s at least acknowledge it. Anyway, have a nice rest of the day. I mean that!

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,070 posts)
40. I'm not the one saying fat jokes and transgender jokes are okay
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:02 PM
Jun 2021

So calling out bigotry is lashing out. Got it.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
39. So, if someone said that Marjorie Taylor Greene is a female version of Trump...
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:58 PM
Jun 2021

would that be slandering women?

hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)
44. Those looking for "targeted" offense won't see it that way, but I agree with you.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jun 2021

Caitlyn overplayed her "hand" on this issue IMHO.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
53. stopped clock is right twice a day
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jun 2021

"trump in a wig" plays off anti-trans imagery of trans women being men in wigs. Kimmel is usually a better comedian than that. He should have said something like "trump with a worse driving record" or "trump with an active twitter account" or even "trump with better hair"

Are those not funny? Why not if "trump in a wig" is funny?

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
70. +1
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 04:46 PM
Jun 2021

Sometimes, something IS a dogwhistle in a way it wouldn't be if he said it about a cis woman. It's just true. And entirely possible it was unintentional or unconscious, but he should still apologize. This is harmful to trans women, who are already getting attacked on all sorts of fronts and the stereotype of predatory men in wigs and dresses is getting pushed hard. Not just right-wingers doing it either, the TERF brigade is probably even more dangerous because it's more insidious.

Jenner is terrible but mocking her for being a trans woman hurts ALL trans people. Mock her for the specific ways that she, individually, is terrible, there's no shortage of material there.



beaglelover

(3,489 posts)
54. The LGBT community, of which I am a part of, does not care for you. You do NOT support the
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jun 2021

community so we do not support you.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
61. I don't think being transgender makes a horrid person above criticism
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jun 2021

Or the butt of a joke.

And Jenner is a truly horrible person.

PortTack

(32,794 posts)
67. Analogy: gqp rep Byron donalds is butt hurt that he is being refused entry to the CBC
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 03:36 PM
Jun 2021

Just because his skin is brown doesn’t mean he gets a free pass to join the CBC. He doesn’t hold the same aspirations to democracy and freedom and therefore is being denied. Just because someone is transgender just as you pointed out does not mean they should not be held accountable for their awful positions.

Politicians of of brands and flavors are subject to frequent jokes...can’t take the heat??? Get out of the fire

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
69. And women of certain ages or body type are particular targets for having their looks mocked.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 04:26 PM
Jun 2021

It is not fair, but what is?

I don't think it is because Jenner is transgender.

It is because she is over 70 and getting the same that any other woman would.

Hekate

(90,827 posts)
66. It suffices to say that woman is an airhead, but I'm not a late-night comedian. If a side by side...
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 03:23 PM
Jun 2021

…photo of her and her hero shows the same expression on their faces, game on.

Oneironaut

(5,524 posts)
72. Caitlin Jenner sucks and is a terrible person, but, this is transphobic.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 04:59 PM
Jun 2021

You can make fun of Caitlyn Jenner without being transphobic, or implying she’s a man. For example, criticizing Caitlin Jenner for being a terrible driver who kills people with her car and then uses her privilege to get out of it.

scipan

(2,359 posts)
74. "Are you sure that isn't Donald Trump in a MTG wig?"
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 05:44 PM
Jun 2021

Joke works just as well IMHO.

But I'd like to hear from more LGBTQ people.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
75. so she is part of a party that despises LGBTQ folk
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 06:38 PM
Jun 2021

but thinks we need to be offended over a Jimmy Kimmel joke

FUCK OFF, CAITLYN

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