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"Where is the outrage from the left or LGBT community? Being WOKE must be optional if you are a Democrat."
By Alex Bollinger Monday, June 14, 2021
California gubernatorial candidate Caitlyn Jenner lashed out at comedian Jimmy Kimmel, calling him transphobic for a joke about how her political style is similar to Donald Trumps.
Are you sure that isnt Donald Trump in a Caitlyn Jenner wig? Kimmel joked on Jimmy Kimmel Live! last week before showing photos of the two side-by-side making the same faces.
He obviously believes that trans women are simply men with wigs on, Jenner said on Twitter. Where is the outrage from the left or LGBT community? Being WOKE must be optional if you are a Democrat.
Link to tweet
Jenner went on a Twitter tirade against Kimmel, bringing up racist and sexist jokes he has made in the past, as well as a sketch where he used blackface. Kimmel apologized last year for the blackface sketch.
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Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Shut up and go away.
Mosby
(16,358 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)He was pointing out Jenner is just a trump
Clone.
I dont care if Jenner is trans.
I do care that she is awful in about 100,000 ways.
Fuck that entitled numb skull.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)Criticize her beliefs, not her gender/sexuality. But she's a Republican, so bigotry is okay here, I guess.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)You are LGBT but have no issue with him mocking her gender. Got it.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)Is it a Trans issue? I dont know. Maybe it is.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)See how that goes over.
Chakaconcarne
(2,462 posts)So I could see that being the reference and a grey area whether it's mocking her or not....
leftyladyfrommo
(18,871 posts)Lettuce Be
(2,337 posts)PortTack
(32,794 posts)Cha
(297,692 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)As a lifelong member of the LGBT community I will not suffer fools like Jenner.
Fuck her.
She is a gigantic piece of shit.
Her trans identity doesnt make her immune from criticism.
beaglelover
(3,489 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,646 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)She is deplorable. Not because she is trans. But because she is awful.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Have a nice day.
Crunchy Frog
(26,646 posts)She's being mocked for being a Trumpanzee, not for being trans.
It's just the typical RW game of playing perpetual victim. People are just more likely to buy it in her case.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Exactly the point.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)It's obvious what he's saying, and why he's using that attack. But everyone here is okay because she's a Trumper.
Got it, bigotry is okay if the target is Republican.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)Bucky
(54,068 posts)Hey I like Jimmy Kimmel and I loathe Caitlyn Jenner's politics. Among other things, she's a hypocrite on this very issue of ridiculing Trans people in the past herself.
But that doesn't make Kimmel transphobic comments okay. He crossed a line and he needs to apologize.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)Faux pas
(14,690 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)but with nicer clothes!
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)Now we've gone to comparing the transwoman to the straight man in drag. But it's okay, because you're mocking Republicans.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)deciding you were holier than any member of the LGBTQ Community who is agreeing with Kimmel was a bigot.
Bucky
(54,068 posts)Kimmel's comment was not okay. Just because he's generally supportive of trans rights doesn't mean he can uses denigrating language.
This probably wouldn't be so much of an issue, but we have a problem of transphobic murders in this country. It's not an acceptable topic to spread ignorance, misinformation, and scorn about.
flying_wahini
(6,651 posts)Jenner has a lot of nerve to run on her celebrity status. Thats all she has.
An extra large EGO just like Trump.
Voltaire2
(13,175 posts)So she can shut the fuck up. Although she does have a point. Her wig is much better than Trump's.
Bettie
(16,126 posts)who declare that they are "Trump in heels"...it was more about her utter devotion to everything "Trumpy".
If you are looking for a paragon who never says the wrong thing, Jimmy Kimmel is not the person you should be looking to.
I don't think there is a person in existence who has never ever said the wrong thing.
Takket
(21,629 posts)Bucky
(54,068 posts)Promoting denigration of trans women in a society that has a SERIOUS problem with trans women being murdered by people who don't regard them as "real women" is feeding into the violence. Kimmel was wrong. You don't have to like Caitlyn Jenner to see she has the right to not be called out for what she is. She doesn't enough stupid hypocritical shit that you can dislike her for what she does. No prejudice needed.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Not only is she utterly stupid, she has no charisma at all. A boring dunce with the personality of a stump. Go away.
markbark
(1,562 posts)You _DO_ realize that Trump would like to see all trans folk, including the ones who voted for him, dead, right?
TraceNC
(254 posts)reality tv clown in politics. We just rid ourselves of one.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)Not sure why that means you can mock her being trans.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)tonedevil
(3,022 posts)yet you can't explain why.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)Nope, nothing transphobic there at all. But this is a Democratic board, so bigotry against Republicans is okay.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)is not mocking and nothing in the statement indicates it is in reference to Caitlin being trans. As has been mentioned in this thread cisgendered women have been called Trump in heels and donald was called Sarah Palin with bigger tits.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)tonedevil
(3,022 posts)TraceNC
(254 posts)I wish I could remember who said this but in 2016 someone called Trump Sarah Palin with bigger tits.
So this form of a joke is nothing new. If anything, Kimmels joke that Jenner is basically Trump wasnt even that original.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)So keep up with it. Good look for a Democrat.
TraceNC
(254 posts)Okay.
Its easy: if you dont like what a tv host/comedian says, dont watch. I dont find Kimmel very entertaining so I dont watch and I wonder how many people would have even heard about this had it not been spread by the outrage army. Who knows. I guess some people just arent happy unless theyre angry about something.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)Going through a lot of convolutions to cover up that you think mocking people's weight and their gender is okay.
Its obvious here and in the other part of this thread that youre reacting to this on a purely emotional basis, which is why youre not arguing with substance but rather lashing out at people. Doesnt bother me, but lets at least acknowledge it. Anyway, have a nice rest of the day. I mean that!
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)So calling out bigotry is lashing out. Got it.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)would that be slandering women?
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)Caitlyn overplayed her "hand" on this issue IMHO.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)"trump in a wig" plays off anti-trans imagery of trans women being men in wigs. Kimmel is usually a better comedian than that. He should have said something like "trump with a worse driving record" or "trump with an active twitter account" or even "trump with better hair"
Are those not funny? Why not if "trump in a wig" is funny?
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)Sometimes, something IS a dogwhistle in a way it wouldn't be if he said it about a cis woman. It's just true. And entirely possible it was unintentional or unconscious, but he should still apologize. This is harmful to trans women, who are already getting attacked on all sorts of fronts and the stereotype of predatory men in wigs and dresses is getting pushed hard. Not just right-wingers doing it either, the TERF brigade is probably even more dangerous because it's more insidious.
Jenner is terrible but mocking her for being a trans woman hurts ALL trans people. Mock her for the specific ways that she, individually, is terrible, there's no shortage of material there.
beaglelover
(3,489 posts)community so we do not support you.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,567 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Or the butt of a joke.
And Jenner is a truly horrible person.
PortTack
(32,794 posts)Just because his skin is brown doesnt mean he gets a free pass to join the CBC. He doesnt hold the same aspirations to democracy and freedom and therefore is being denied. Just because someone is transgender just as you pointed out does not mean they should not be held accountable for their awful positions.
Politicians of of brands and flavors are subject to frequent jokes...cant take the heat??? Get out of the fire
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)It is not fair, but what is?
I don't think it is because Jenner is transgender.
It is because she is over 70 and getting the same that any other woman would.
BootinUp
(47,190 posts)Hekate
(90,827 posts)
photo of her and her hero shows the same expression on their faces, game on.
Oneironaut
(5,524 posts)You can make fun of Caitlyn Jenner without being transphobic, or implying shes a man. For example, criticizing Caitlin Jenner for being a terrible driver who kills people with her car and then uses her privilege to get out of it.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,070 posts)There's plenty to mock her for that doesn't involve punching down because of her gender.
scipan
(2,359 posts)Joke works just as well IMHO.
But I'd like to hear from more LGBTQ people.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)but thinks we need to be offended over a Jimmy Kimmel joke
FUCK OFF, CAITLYN