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DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:30 PM Jun 2021

Capitol rioter refuses to leave jail-cell to attend his trial.

https://www.rawstory.com/jeffrey-mckellop-2653373426/

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I think, he thinks this is some clever way to just break the judicial system, force a mistrial and make the trial go away.
(I once saw a court-cam video of a defendant who acted as his own attorney and who regularly faked passing out in court, in order force a mistrial. It didn't work.)






Here's my guess what's gonna happen:

1. He refuses to leave his jail-cell.

2. The judge holds him in contempt of court and offers him the chance to rectifiy this and appear in court at the new trial-date. The defendant is still in jail.

3. New trial-date. He again doesn't show up. The defendant is still in jail.

4. The judge will hold a pre-trial hearing in his absence and enter a not-guilty-plea for him and appoint a lawyer for him. The defendant is still in jail.

5. He will refuse the lawyer and will demand to represent himself. The defendant is still in jail.

6. The judge will hold a hearing to determine whether the defendant is competent to act as his own attorney. The defendant is still in jail.

7. This time the defendant will show up, in order to drag this all out again. The judge will (most likely) hold him as not competent to represent himelf and he will force the defendant to keep the appointed counsel. The defendant is still in jail.

8. The defendant will then initiate a legal fight with his appointed lawyer, and claim that the lawyer has somehow sabotaged his case and will again demand to represent himself. The defendant is still in jail.

9. The judge will give him permission to represent himself, but will force him to retain the appointed lawyer "on stand-by", just in case he changes his mind and wants to consult him. (This happens regularly.) The defendant will protest that he doesn't want a lawyer on stand-by, but the judge will give him no choice. The defendant is still in jail.

10. The day of the actual court-trial. The defendant tries to restart the game from the beginning and will again refuse to leave his jail-cell. The judge will declare that the stand-by lawyer will serve as the actual lawyer. The trial begins in his absence. The defendant will protest, again, that he doesn't want this lawyer. The judge will say nope. The defendant is still in jail. And the trial moves on in his absence.






And after having spent a year or so in jail, totally unnecessarily, and after having been fined a few thousand dollars for contempt of court, totally unnecessarily, the defendant will (in shock and disbelief) realize that his scheme has failed and that his court-case has SOMEHOW not gone away.
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Capitol rioter refuses to leave jail-cell to attend his trial. (Original Post) DetlefK Jun 2021 OP
Another possibility Laurelin Jun 2021 #1
Nuts like a hawk. I think they collude to come up with these schemes. LakeArenal Jun 2021 #4
The other possibility, in his mind SCantiGOP Jun 2021 #16
You mean using "reinstatement" to issue fraudulent pardons? bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #17
Have you ever seen very young children play hide and seek? Sometimes they close their eyes RockRaven Jun 2021 #2
My cat puts his head in shoes. Is positive no one can find him. LOL GPV Jun 2021 #7
Mine does the same with her tunnel. wnylib Jun 2021 #9
Any public defender upon hearing this.... Omnipresent Jun 2021 #3
This is not one of the garden variety trespassers bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #5
I don't believe anyone should be just charged with trespass. See comment above bottomofthehill Jun 2021 #6
The guy is so insane LittleGirl Jun 2021 #8
Somewhere down the line, he will pull the soverign person argument and claim he doesn't AZLD4Candidate Jun 2021 #10
Yes, this sounds like sovereign citizen BS to me. Try sending a Sheriff in to talk to him. Midnight Writer Jun 2021 #11
That's my take also. nt reACTIONary Jun 2021 #25
This just proves once again, the reQublican party is full of IDIOTS. KS Toronado Jun 2021 #12
Mind if I add something to the end? WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2021 #13
Ah, yes - Blackstone's "You're Not The Boss Of ME!!!" defense . . . hatrack Jun 2021 #14
Dad I'm in Jail Brother Buzz Jun 2021 #15
It's hard to walk the dinosaur in jail Alpeduez21 Jun 2021 #19
I see what you did there Brother Buzz Jun 2021 #23
Simple solution would be to EnterwebsJohn Jun 2021 #18
perfect NJCher Jun 2021 #20
If he goes to court and is guilty of a felony - no more firearms for him. LiberalArkie Jun 2021 #21
Apparently, according to the link, he already has a lawyer. Treefrog Jun 2021 #22
I do understand why he wasn't simply escorted handcuffed msfiddlestix Jun 2021 #24

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
4. Nuts like a hawk. I think they collude to come up with these schemes.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jun 2021

Even if he spends that year in jail, they will consider it time served and get a lessor sentence.

SCantiGOP

(14,720 posts)
16. The other possibility, in his mind
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 03:34 PM
Jun 2021

He drags it out for two months, and then triumphantly walks out of jail after being included in President Trump's blanket pardon of the 1/6 “patriots.”

bucolic_frolic

(55,178 posts)
17. You mean using "reinstatement" to issue fraudulent pardons?
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jun 2021

If he's going to spark another insurrection over, say, Maricopa County, he needs to let the insurrectionists know that he has their back! Because right now, many of them are in jail or awaiting trial - without pardons, and without reimbursement for their legal fees other than a public defender.

RockRaven

(19,392 posts)
2. Have you ever seen very young children play hide and seek? Sometimes they close their eyes
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:38 PM
Jun 2021

when they are hiding (poorly) because of their lack of understanding of their experience not being the same as what others are experiencing... "If I can't see you, you can't see me" kind of thing.

This guy reminds me of that.

wnylib

(26,040 posts)
9. Mine does the same with her tunnel.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:46 PM
Jun 2021

Head and shoulders inside, tail and rump outside - until I tap her tail.

This guy reminds me of McVeigh's attitude that the laws and courts have no validity. Just ignore them, don't participate, and they can't do anything to you. Total fantasy world.

Omnipresent

(7,458 posts)
3. Any public defender upon hearing this....
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:38 PM
Jun 2021

Would tell this manchild to sit down, and tell him in no uncertain terms, that he’s an Idiot!

bottomofthehill

(9,391 posts)
5. This is not one of the garden variety trespassers
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jun 2021

He violently attacked the police injuring at least one officer by “ spearing him with a flag pole”. He is going to spend real time inside.

By the way, I think anyone who was charged with trespass should be charged with Disruption of Congress. If you were inside the building, you were the cause for the House and Senate going into recess this disrupting the Joint Session of Congress.

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
8. The guy is so insane
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jun 2021

He doesn’t want to live on the outside. He likes jail.
A cot and 3 meals works.

?
Hmmmm

AZLD4Candidate

(6,781 posts)
10. Somewhere down the line, he will pull the soverign person argument and claim he doesn't
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:48 PM
Jun 2021

recognize the authority of the court.

Midnight Writer

(25,420 posts)
11. Yes, this sounds like sovereign citizen BS to me. Try sending a Sheriff in to talk to him.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:54 PM
Jun 2021

According to them, only a Sheriff has legal authority.

Yes, they are nuts.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
12. This just proves once again, the reQublican party is full of IDIOTS.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jun 2021

With no critical thinking skills.

Brother Buzz

(39,908 posts)
15. Dad I'm in Jail
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 03:14 PM
Jun 2021
Dad I'm in Jail

Hello, dad, I'm in jail
Hi, dad, I'm calling you from jail
Hi, dad, happy birthday
I'm in jail
Jail, jail
Hi, dad
All those years
I'm in jail now
I'm in jail
I like it here
It's nice, I like it
Hello, dad, I'm in jail
Hello, hello, dad
Hi, I'm in jail
Say hi to mom, from jail
I'm in jail
I'm gonna stay here
I like it here
I like it, yeah
Throw away the key
I'm in jail
Hello, dad, I'm in jail
Jail, jail, jail, jail


Brother Buzz

(39,908 posts)
23. I see what you did there
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 05:41 PM
Jun 2021


I knew NOTHING about Was (Not Was) when I first saw the film at an animated film festival in Sacramento. I only learned about Was (Not Was) when they invented that internet stuff and I was able to flesh out the story of "Dad I'm in Jail". Interesting, on the same animation festival billing was a cute little film called Luxo Jr.. It was made by a San Rafael company called Pixar. I really liked it, but I was scorned by the animation purists I was with because it was this new computer generated shit that was going to kill the animation industry.
 

EnterwebsJohn

(87 posts)
18. Simple solution would be to
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 04:09 PM
Jun 2021

put barricades in front of the court doors and tell him he is not allowed during court.

NJCher

(43,179 posts)
20. perfect
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 04:17 PM
Jun 2021

because he went the Mitch McConnell School of Obstructionism.

At the basis of it all is that these people are contrarians. They had some problem with their diaper in the Terrible Twos. Still acting out.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
24. I do understand why he wasn't simply escorted handcuffed
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 06:01 PM
Jun 2021

Never heard of any incarcerated defendant being allowed a choice on the matter.

did I miss a SCOTUS decree suggesting a criminally charged and incarcerated defendant is free to choose to face trial or not?

I feel like the PSY-OPs we've been subjected to the past five or more years is still in full play.

it just never ends.

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