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OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 03:38 AM Jun 2021

COVID: Delta variant cases 'doubling every two weeks' in U.S.

June 14, 2021 at 1:33 p.m.

(CNN) — The Delta variant is on its way to becoming the dominant strain of coronavirus in the US, raising concerns that outbreaks could hit unvaccinated people this fall.

And a new study shows the Delta variant is associated with almost double the risk of hospitalization compared to the Alpha variant.

The Alpha (B.1.1.7) variant, which is “stickier” and more contagious than the original strain of novel coronavirus, became the dominant strain in the US this spring.

But health experts worry the Alpha variant could be trumped by the Delta variant, which appears to be even more transmissible and may cause more severe illness for those not vaccinated.

More: https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/06/14/covid-delta-variant-cases-doubling-every-two-weeks-in-u-s/

Snip ~ "While 52.4% of Americans have received at least one dose of vaccine, only 43.4% have been fully vaccinated, according to data Sunday from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

We're no where near herd immunity.

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COVID: Delta variant cases 'doubling every two weeks' in U.S. (Original Post) OhioChick Jun 2021 OP
This is why I worry about vaccinated people catching the COVID virus. Hugin Jun 2021 #1
My son and I caught Covid.... OhioChick Jun 2021 #3
Which vaccine had you gotten? wackadoo wabbit Jun 2021 #9
Thank you for your kindness... OhioChick Jun 2021 #11
I thought we were at 60% with one shot. secondwind Jun 2021 #2
60% or so of eligible (12 and up), Deminpenn Jun 2021 #19
I heard a Doc on MSNBC today say that those who were vaccinated didn't have to worry, the napi21 Jun 2021 #4
That's not mean at all. BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #5
Interesting since despite my son and I getting vaccinated, we still contracted Covid n/t OhioChick Jun 2021 #6
How were your symptoms? Hopefully mild. n/t moonscape Jun 2021 #7
Unfortunately not..... OhioChick Jun 2021 #8
Are you part of a study? druidity33 Jun 2021 #12
Thank you for your kindness.... OhioChick Jun 2021 #15
Dang. You mean you made it through last moonscape Jun 2021 #16
We've both been suffering for months now... OhioChick Jun 2021 #17
I've heard the vaccine will prevent you from needing hospitalization if you do get the virus. napi21 Jun 2021 #10
That may be the case for "some" but not for "all" OhioChick Jun 2021 #13
This virus is so weird. LisaL Jun 2021 #20
And yet most news reports tell us that patients in hospitals Doremus Jun 2021 #25
The initial studies were 95% reduction in serious illness. Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #21
And who cares about the 15% who arre not yet even eligible to be vaccinated. Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #22
I have recently noticed many unmasked children obviously younger than 12 PA Democrat Jun 2021 #23
Same here. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #24
We are spending this weekend with my daughter n law Tree Lady Jun 2021 #26
Depends where you are. Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #14
Thank you for your overall kindness and compassion n/t OhioChick Jun 2021 #18

Hugin

(37,836 posts)
1. This is why I worry about vaccinated people catching the COVID virus.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 04:05 AM
Jun 2021

In the presence of antibodies the virus could mutate to reach a viral load sufficient to reproduce and spread faster than a person's immune system can respond.

Having no certifications or qualifications on the subject, I don't have a clue how long such a window is present. I'm guessing 24 to 48 hours. It most likely varies considerably between individuals.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
3. My son and I caught Covid....
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 04:19 AM
Jun 2021

We were both fully vaccinated and now are long-haulers.

Not fun for many of us that survive this.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
11. Thank you for your kindness...
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:42 AM
Jun 2021

My one son and I received the Pfizer vaccination, my other son received Moderna.

The two of us that are long-haulers received the Pfizer (me) and my son that received the Moderna.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. I thought we were at 60% with one shot.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 04:12 AM
Jun 2021

This number is changing rapidly, as folks are getting their second doses, etc.

Am happy to say that I am one of those, having flown to MIA last week. They were vaccinating right there at the airport hotel. Pfizer. Flew back a day later.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
4. I heard a Doc on MSNBC today say that those who were vaccinated didn't have to worry, the
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:20 AM
Jun 2021

problem is with those who aren't! Some States have a good % of their residents already vaccinated, but there are still quite a few people who haven't gotten their shots, & some who don't intend to. That Doc verified that the current vaccines are effective against the Delta variant. I'm going to be very mean & say that anybody who won't get vaccinated deserves what they get.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
6. Interesting since despite my son and I getting vaccinated, we still contracted Covid n/t
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:28 AM
Jun 2021

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
8. Unfortunately not.....
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:38 AM
Jun 2021

We're both long haulers and see specialists on a regular basis.

On some days, I wish I never survived this virus.

Thanks for asking and your concern.

druidity33

(6,912 posts)
12. Are you part of a study?
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:46 AM
Jun 2021

I know there are a few that the CDC is collecting data for. Maybe a long-haul study in the works. I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hear there are a few good support groups on social media for long Covid. Mind telling us which vaccine you got? Keep fighting it OhioChick... we still need you!



OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
15. Thank you for your kindness....
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:56 AM
Jun 2021

You post brought tears to my eyes.

I'm not involved in any long-haul studies, although I have connected with many other long-haulers online. (It's sad, there are so many of us)

I received the Pfizer and my son (who is suffering much worse) received the Moderna.

I would give up my life at this point if my son could return to full health, in a heartbeat.

I'm trying to take one day at a time and am trying to fight. Thank you again for your kindness shown to me.

moonscape

(5,707 posts)
16. Dang. You mean you made it through last
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 06:18 AM
Jun 2021

year and only got covid after being fully vaccinated?

Assume Delta variant since it’s a rough ride? So very sorry to hear this.



OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
17. We've both been suffering for months now...
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 06:22 AM
Jun 2021

I think it's safe to say that the Delta variant isn't responsible for our illnesses, since that variant is just beginning to make it's rounds in the US.

Thank you, kindly.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
10. I've heard the vaccine will prevent you from needing hospitalization if you do get the virus.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:40 AM
Jun 2021

Apparently some people could still get the virus after being vaccinated. There are supposed to be only a few who will contract the virus though. Most people won't get it at all.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
13. That may be the case for "some" but not for "all"
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:49 AM
Jun 2021

It's not as "rare" as being "reported."

The last group of patients that my son lost within the past two weeks were healthy, between the ages of 25-35 and fully vaccinated. (Keep in mind that we're not even surging yet with the Delta variant)



LisaL

(47,418 posts)
20. This virus is so weird.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 06:48 AM
Jun 2021

I had an elderly relative with all kinds of pre-existing conditions testing positive, that was nearly asymptomatic (not fully faxxed yet at the time of infection). And yet young, healthy, fully vaxxed people died?
Go figure.

Doremus

(7,273 posts)
25. And yet most news reports tell us that patients in hospitals
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 10:19 AM
Jun 2021

are universally not vaccinated. That has also been the anecdotal experience of my friend's daughter who is an ICU nurse. She was assigned exclusively to the Covid ward until they dismantled it a few months ago. Now Covid patients are placed in general ICU. There are a handful in her hospital and it's been her experience that all of them, as well as all of those already discharged, have been unvaccinated.

Hope you're feeling better soon.

Ms. Toad

(38,581 posts)
21. The initial studies were 95% reduction in serious illness.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 09:24 AM
Jun 2021

That still leaves a hefty chunk of people who get serious illnesses. Out of 100 people with serious illnesses - 5 of them wlll have been vaccinated.

The more recent studies (which have evaluated effectivenes at preventing disease) indicate that it prevents serious illness and death by preventing infection - BUT- once you get the disease your chance of it being severe or deadly are about the same as if you weren't vaccinated at all.

People citing a miniscule chance of death (1) don't understand statistics (in an unvaccinated crowd, it's not as small as they believe - and we don't have enough data about the variants yet to even guess at effectiveness) and (2) seem only to care about death - not the devastation a severe case leaves in its wake.

Ms. Toad

(38,581 posts)
22. And who cares about the 15% who arre not yet even eligible to be vaccinated.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 09:29 AM
Jun 2021

After all, they're just kids.

And it is way too soon to know how effective the vaccines will be against the Delta variant. But - the way things are going we'll probably find out pretty quickly. Hope the guess is correct that it will be effective - but I'm not going to risk my life on it.

AND - more importantly - we ought not be risking our children's lives on it. Any system that unmasks on the honor code is assinine. The maskholes have already proven they are not honorable.

PA Democrat

(13,428 posts)
23. I have recently noticed many unmasked children obviously younger than 12
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 09:43 AM
Jun 2021

in grocery stores with their maskless parents.

I can't imagine being that negligent in protecting my child's health. I doubt the maskless parents are vaccinated either given their disregard for their kids safety. Of course this is in a county that went for Trump.

Tree Lady

(13,263 posts)
26. We are spending this weekend with my daughter n law
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 10:51 AM
Jun 2021

Husband and son who is toddler, all vaccinated except little one. They said they aren't taking him inside anywhere only eat at a restaurant outside.

I don't blame them at all. In my town all of a sudden most are not wearing a mask and many have kids with them.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
14. Depends where you are.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:56 AM
Jun 2021

Some regions are quite close or at herd immunity levels. Also you should add the already infected to the vaccinated numbers. Your risk of getting covid again is very low.

While the delta variant rates are rising, overall rates were declining drastically and have currently plateaued at a fairly low level. The situation is not nearly as dire as the headline seems to imply.

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