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edhopper

(37,341 posts)
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:32 AM Jun 2021

They have to plead with people to take the vaccine

500,000 to 600,000 dead. Over 100,000 hospitalized at any given time. The country shut down. The economy stalled.
Then there is a miraculous vaccine that will protect you from the virus and turn everything around.
And they have to plead with people to get the shot? WTF is wrong with them?
The willful ignorance is truly astonishing.

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They have to plead with people to take the vaccine (Original Post) edhopper Jun 2021 OP
I am hoping Darwin helps us out here. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #1
It only helps if they didn't breed first. Aristus Jun 2021 #3
There's still some downstream effect. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #7
I hope you're right. Aristus Jun 2021 #9
Relax. America won't be destroyed by politics. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #11
Like the beginning of "Idiocracy". SergeStorms Jun 2021 #25
The only thing wrong with that intro FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #30
I'm not hoping that their lesson be the hard way.... FarPoint Jun 2021 #4
K&R!!! And, ha, their god works in mysterious ways! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2021 #5
Blacks are the group with the lowest vaccination rate madville Jun 2021 #17
Yes, education and anything else can be applied to persuadable people. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #18
Perhaps one way to get more people vaccinated is to use mobile vaccine facilities. Lonestarblue Jun 2021 #27
They are already doing that in Detroit. llmart Jun 2021 #54
Interesting finding from Alberta, Canada. OneBlueDotS-Carolina Jun 2021 #2
Maybe that is why my county has such high vax rates AllyCat Jun 2021 #31
Our county.... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Jun 2021 #35
Hoo boy! AllyCat Jun 2021 #48
Synopsis: If you're smart, you'll get the vaccine. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2021 #36
Or, if you're smart, you've already gotten it (them). JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2021 #50
Maybe you're right. I feel quite smart in getting my first shot as soon as I could LiberalLovinLug Jun 2021 #56
i am for for letting them get sick samnsara Jun 2021 #6
And we're bribing people to get a FREE vaccination mountain grammy Jun 2021 #8
Someone should start a rumor that the Covid vaccine gets you high. sop Jun 2021 #10
Or gets you laid. TreasonousBastard Jun 2021 #12
Both. There'd be a mile-long line outside CVS in ten minutes. sop Jun 2021 #13
The new erectile dysfunction drug. ... n/t RKP5637 Jun 2021 #14
Don't plead with the reluctant, just send the doses to Mexico. StatWoman Jun 2021 #15
My feelings exactly! Tell them to get f***** and give the vaccine to someone in a poor country. Nt raccoon Jun 2021 #19
The figures in Arkansas are abysmal. 33% fully vaccinated for the state, 23% for the county Arkansas Granny Jun 2021 #16
People have to understand this better than they let on. RegularJam Jun 2021 #20
It's not that we don't understand why edhopper Jun 2021 #21
Please explain farther The Mouth Jun 2021 #39
The same people who wouldn't wear masks are the same ones who OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2021 #22
Czarist Russia? edhopper Jun 2021 #23
Ignorance is Bliss ... Xoan Jun 2021 #24
Most people whom I know have been delighted to be offered the vaccine LeftishBrit Jun 2021 #26
You are lucky to have such sensible friends. totodeinhere Jun 2021 #33
They're afraid of needles. Demobrat Jun 2021 #28
Family member who has come up with every possible conspiracy AllyCat Jun 2021 #49
Cold stuff? Like a numbing agent? Demobrat Jun 2021 #57
One young man said he wasn't getting vaccinated because "I don't think I'll get infected." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2021 #29
Agreed 100%. totodeinhere Jun 2021 #32
I blame Fox Bayard Jun 2021 #34
I am trying not to judge Marthe48 Jun 2021 #37
let them get sick and die llashram Jun 2021 #38
Thank you The Mouth Jun 2021 #40
Blacks have the highest non vaccination rate. former9thward Jun 2021 #53
They gain llashram Jun 2021 #58
I think tax breaks should be given.... jimlup Jun 2021 #41
I don't think that is a good use edhopper Jun 2021 #42
Why not? jimlup Jun 2021 #45
Because $300 billion dollars edhopper Jun 2021 #46
Actually I don't agree jimlup Jun 2021 #52
Sure edhopper Jun 2021 #55
My state just announced a lottery MissMillie Jun 2021 #43
Let's see if that increases the vaccination rate edhopper Jun 2021 #47
Carlin said it best... NoMoreRepugs Jun 2021 #44
NM is now offering $100 to get vaccinated alittlelark Jun 2021 #51

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. I am hoping Darwin helps us out here.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:33 AM
Jun 2021

The idiots are reducing their own numbers in the population; that will help us in future elections.

Aristus

(72,134 posts)
3. It only helps if they didn't breed first.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jun 2021

Otherwise, their mouth-breathing spawn are going to continue to drag down the collective IQ of a nation which was never crazy about the intellectually stable to begin with.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. There's still some downstream effect.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jun 2021

Their reduced lifespan, future income, etc will make it harder for the kids. After about ten generations, even a small difference causes extinction.

But even if only the idiots themselves partially die off, it helps electoral results.

Aristus

(72,134 posts)
9. I hope you're right.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jun 2021

I don't like our country's chances of lasting another ten generations. I have a feeling that, in that time-span, we will have Balkanized beyond recognition.

SergeStorms

(20,544 posts)
25. Like the beginning of "Idiocracy".
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jun 2021

Cletus was sleeping with every woman within reach, and then his son, Cletus Jr., on the football field.... "I'm gonna' fuck all y'all". Yeah, the ignorant deplorables procreate at an astonishing rate.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,684 posts)
30. The only thing wrong with that intro
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jun 2021

was that it is NOT gonna take 500 years. We'll be to that point by the end of the century, if not sooner. And if the world survives.

FarPoint

(14,754 posts)
4. I'm not hoping that their lesson be the hard way....
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jun 2021

It appears that is what will result...unvaccinated by choice folks...they are setting themselves up for clinical consequences.

madville

(7,847 posts)
17. Blacks are the group with the lowest vaccination rate
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jun 2021

Followed by Hispanics. How exactly will that help “us” in future elections?

There needs to be more education directed at these underrepresented groups instead of wishing death on people.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. Yes, education and anything else can be applied to persuadable people.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:05 PM
Jun 2021

RW antivaxxer maskholes do not fit in that category.

And if my wishes were powers (they are not), this would be a real thing:

Lonestarblue

(13,461 posts)
27. Perhaps one way to get more people vaccinated is to use mobile vaccine facilities.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:12 PM
Jun 2021

I’m sure some black and Hispanic people are wary about getting the vaccine, but they are also overwhelmingly the people working odd hours and often two jobs. Equipping vaccine vans and taking them to places of employment gives fast access that means people do not have to take time off from work.

AllyCat

(18,817 posts)
31. Maybe that is why my county has such high vax rates
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:34 PM
Jun 2021

We also have the greatest number of PhD holders driving cabs ( or so I’m told). 68% have one dose, 61% have both. 96% of seniors, 55% of 12-15 year olds. And still, most folks wearing masks.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,487 posts)
35. Our county....
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:47 PM
Jun 2021

has the highest number of doc of divinity degrees.

I have no idea what today's vax rate is, it was 28% in April. Everyone we know was vaccinated in Feb, March fully vaccinated.

I received my DD, from the World Church in 1971 for a small donation to Greenpeace, think it was $25.00 Canadian.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,678 posts)
50. Or, if you're smart, you've already gotten it (them).
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 03:34 PM
Jun 2021

Or maybe the vaccine makes you smart in addition to making you magnetic.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,680 posts)
56. Maybe you're right. I feel quite smart in getting my first shot as soon as I could
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:30 PM
Jun 2021

And now I swear I have a much more magnetic personality!

mountain grammy

(29,013 posts)
8. And we're bribing people to get a FREE vaccination
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jun 2021

$1million lottery in Colorado. Unbelievable!

StatWoman

(519 posts)
15. Don't plead with the reluctant, just send the doses to Mexico.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:50 AM
Jun 2021

And we'll pay for it.

There are plenty of people who would love to have these shots.

raccoon

(32,382 posts)
19. My feelings exactly! Tell them to get f***** and give the vaccine to someone in a poor country. Nt
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:08 PM
Jun 2021

Arkansas Granny

(32,265 posts)
16. The figures in Arkansas are abysmal. 33% fully vaccinated for the state, 23% for the county
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:53 AM
Jun 2021

where I live. That's why I am still observing social distancing and wearing a mask in public places. I realize that my chances of being infected are slim and if that happens, it will be a mild case. However, I have grandchildren and great grandchildren who are too young to vaccinate. What if I was asymptomatic and then pass it on to one of them?

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
20. People have to understand this better than they let on.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:21 PM
Jun 2021

Everyone I know who is vaccinated fully understands vaccine hesitancy. I can't comprehend why some seem so completely confused over vaccine hesitancy. I will say that the confused group, promoting themselves as being pro-vaccine, are worse at promoting the vaccine than anyone.

edhopper

(37,341 posts)
21. It's not that we don't understand why
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:36 PM
Jun 2021

they have refused the vaccine. It's just that most of those reasons are idiotic and based on false information and assumptions.

I understand why people are creationist or climate change deniers. It doesn't mean what they think has validity.

I don't understand what you mean by "group promoting themselves as pro-vaccine."?

The Mouth

(3,414 posts)
39. Please explain farther
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jun 2021

I have been vaccinated.

I really see no reason why we should give the slightest damn about any moron who is "vaccine hesitant".

Haven't we had enough of having to cater to fools?

OAITW r.2.0

(32,103 posts)
22. The same people who wouldn't wear masks are the same ones who
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:37 PM
Jun 2021

won't get vaccinated. Why? Because, at their most basic level, they are anti-socialists. Name me one great society that was built by anti-socialists.

edhopper

(37,341 posts)
23. Czarist Russia?
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jun 2021

Imperial France?
Middle Kingdom Egypt?

Of course it depends on what you mean by great society.

LeftishBrit

(41,453 posts)
26. Most people whom I know have been delighted to be offered the vaccine
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jun 2021

I know people who've waited for hours outside a vaccine centre - sometimes several days running - in the hope that there would be leftover vaccines at the end of the day, that would be offered to passers-by, rather than allowed to go to waste.

I know a man in his 60s, who was offered the first jab in March five and a half miles from his home. Doesn't drive; didn't want to risk public transport; didn't want to risk any delay in getting the vaccine by waiting for a space at a more convenient location. So he walked the 11 miles there and back!

I just can't understand people who refuse it.

I had my 2nd jab 3 weeks ago,

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
33. You are lucky to have such sensible friends.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jun 2021

But believe me, even of you don't know them there are a lot of stupid people out there.

Demobrat

(10,297 posts)
28. They're afraid of needles.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:13 PM
Jun 2021

According to my sampling of three, it comes down to they don’t like shots so they just repeat whatever rhetoric they hear to justify avoiding them.

Let them talk long enough and they’ll come around to admitting it.

AllyCat

(18,817 posts)
49. Family member who has come up with every possible conspiracy
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 03:29 PM
Jun 2021

theory on these vaccines finally told me she was getting one because she found a place that uses that “cold stuff”. Methinks she is afraid of needles and doesn’t want to admit it.

Demobrat

(10,297 posts)
57. Cold stuff? Like a numbing agent?
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:13 AM
Jun 2021

Funny thing is, that shot was like nothing. I’ve had mosquito bites hurt worse.

29. One young man said he wasn't getting vaccinated because "I don't think I'll get infected."
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jun 2021

Is ignorance contagious? It seems to spread quicker than COVID 19.

I'm old enough to remember polio, and how my entire junior high school student body lined up to get our vaccine-laced sugar cubes. Those were simpler times -- there were no anti-vaxxers picketing the school. Everyone recognized the benefit of getting vaccinated.

I wonder if the one-dose Johnson & Johnson can be administered by sugar cube?

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
32. Agreed 100%.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:40 PM
Jun 2021

Until this crisis started I had no idea how completely stupid and clueless so many Americans are. I knew there were a lot of stupid people out there but I didn't know it was this bad. God help us.

Bayard

(29,599 posts)
34. I blame Fox
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jun 2021

Still spreading misinformation. We're still trying to get my brother, a Fox devotee, to get it. His argument is that no one knows what the long term effects are. My argument--you won't live long enough to find out if you get the virus.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
38. let them get sick and die
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:13 PM
Jun 2021

trumpiss, fox news, and their propaganda pundits tell them they don't need them or some type of BS about what's in the vaccine, they believe it? Let them die. I believe they are looking for their savior to rise from the pile of excrement that was the sum total of his presidency in August. So like him, to hell with these ignorant willfully hateful dipshits.

The Mouth

(3,414 posts)
40. Thank you
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:19 PM
Jun 2021

Cleaning the gene pool and raising the IQ.

Too many people in the world, let's let the morons self-select out of the population.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
53. Blacks have the highest non vaccination rate.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 10:23 PM
Jun 2021

Followed by Hispanics. Do you still want them all to die?

llashram

(6,269 posts)
58. They gain
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jun 2021

the consequence of their ignorance. I won't allow myself to care about the consequences of their actions or inaction. Information, educational tools, and scientific proof are available to all. They can avail themselves of all proof mentioned. If after informing themselves and arming themselves with all that can 'save' them, all loved ones and innocent citizens of the general society and they choose not to...if they contract the virus and they die, they die.

jimlup

(8,010 posts)
41. I think tax breaks should be given....
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:22 PM
Jun 2021

$1000 for each vaccinated person regardless of income.

That way everybody wins including those of us already vaccinated.

jimlup

(8,010 posts)
45. Why not?
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:35 PM
Jun 2021

it moves money to people who's money it actually is in the first place and since incentives are needed it is a fair incentive.

I recognize that it might not be politically tenable but let's start the evaluation with some questions. First is would it significantly improve vaccine compliance. I think real data would be needed before any decisions are made but I'll be willing to bet it would.

edhopper

(37,341 posts)
46. Because $300 billion dollars
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jun 2021

can do a lot more good than giving it to idiots who don't want to end COVID.
The rest of us don't need the bribe and would rather see that money go to infrastructure or healthcare.

MissMillie

(39,643 posts)
43. My state just announced a lottery
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:30 PM
Jun 2021

(Massachusetts)

Starting July 1, any fully vaccinated person can enter to win one of five $1M prizes (or a college fund if you're 12-17 years of age).

You wouldn't think MA, as reliably blue as it is would have to resort to this, but there are areas in the state that aren't at all blue.

I'm eligible to win!! And the first drawing is the week of my birthday!

edhopper

(37,341 posts)
47. Let's see if that increases the vaccination rate
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:52 PM
Jun 2021

my guess, the unvaccinated will think it is a scam.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,058 posts)
44. Carlin said it best...
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:34 PM
Jun 2021

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

We all know he was talking about Americans.

alittlelark

(19,138 posts)
51. NM is now offering $100 to get vaccinated
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 08:50 PM
Jun 2021

I went to Costco in Albuquerque today to get a scrip for feline friend. The pharmacy was the fullest I had ever seen it - 90% were there for a vaccine shot..............

Whatever Works...................


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