Did Biden unwittingly open the door for a very clever strategy to destroy GOP?

[Grasswire2]

Or perhaps wittingly, and very well played?

The goal would be to drive centrist Republicans in Congress to see they have no future unless they bail on Trumpism. They are currently LOSING the hearts and minds of the majority of Americans. Drive them to rebel, out of their own self interest.


The strategy would be this:

As he did yesterday, talk about how damaged the GOP is, after and with Trump.

Numbers greatly diminished. Down to 25 percent of electorate!

Lost the House, the Senate, the presidency.

Power can only be maintained by anti-American measures.

Corruption in the party and its members rampant.

Dabbling in domestic terrorism.

And so on.

BY CONTRAST.....

Democrats agenda is all-American, focused on strength and principles approved by majority of Americans. We do things right here.

And so on.

This would mesh nicely with the evident agenda to repair the economy and fix things. Look! See how good Dems are at governance? Do you, in Congress, want to be part of this? Or do you want to support THE BIGGEST LOSER, the SLOBMASTER?

[cilla4progress]

1. Did not see or hear this yesterday,

but ...

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Under The Radar]

2. Destroy the GOP by calling for a constitutional amendment to make lying illegal

[monkeyman1]

16. ALREADY IS ------------- PERJURY !!!!!

[Under The Radar]

20. That is lying under oath - a constitutional amendment...

That isn’t obstructed by 1st amendment sympathy by a conservative trump appointed court

[cstanleytech]

38. Such a constitutional amendment would open a Pandora's box of problems

unless it’s restricted to only those currently holding elected office at the federal level.

[applegrove]

3. I think that has been the plan from the beginning because it is the truth.

Biden tells it like it is is factual.

[totodeinhere]

4. We have a two party system and destroying one of the two major parties is not in the

best interest of the American people. Yes, the GOP lost the presidency and both house of Congress. But were people talking about destroying the Democratic Party when they lost the White House and both branches of Congress in 2016? No they were not.

[Budi]

5. In 2016? Yes they were. Loud & clear from Foreign trollfarms to Silicon Valley big tech $$$

Opposition to the Dem Party in 2015/16 was loud & clear.

Democrats were given negative labels of identity en masse via MSM & Social Media driven campaigns to split the Democratic Party & replace it in full Tea Party style, which is based in populism.

2016 was the year opposition to the Democratic Party went full bore.

[barbtries]

43. i would date it earlier.

Newt gingrich, karl rove, etc,

since 2016 they can taste it. consequently mcconnell casually mentions he won't let Joe Biden select a supreme court justice.

pack the court

[Budi]

45. Certainly This: "..since 2016 they can taste it"

2015 the taste was drooling from their mouths.

But I can look at every Democratic President as far back in my memory with JFK, RFK, MLK, to Bill Clinton and forward.

The familiar theme running thru each one of them, their strength, was always civil rights, & the Black vote against the Southern White Supremacy.

Democrats have that one stronghold the Right could never own, so they had to legislate & restrict to stop it.

Of course there are other factors, wealth vs more wealth, foreign interests, but damn, the Black vote has been our consistant ally.
Civil rights to human rights..have never advanced but for the Democratic Party.

[CrackityJones75]

7. Ummm Yes?

Not sure where you have been but the answer to your question is absolutely yes.

There will without a doubt be a party that stands against the Democratic party but I see no problem in the republican party fracturing. None.

[totodeinhere]

9. Yes, if the Republican Party were to go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by

another party. But if the GOP is destroyed and we end up in effect with a one party system, even if that one party is the Democrats, that is not a desirable outcome.

[CrackityJones75]

12. There will be no such thing as a one party system.

For that to happen there would no longer be elections. Do you see the Democratic party enforcing such a thing? I do not. If the republican party dissolves as a party a new one will form, or the democratic party will fracture into a progressive party and the moderate becoming known as the conservative party.

There may for a time be Democrats versus independents but there will never really be a sungle party in the US.

[azureblue]

25. why not?

If the Democratic party Does what is needed to return America to prosperity, to rid the government of corruption and restore honor and integrity, to make Congress and the Presidency representatives of all Americans, To make minimum wage livable and free universal health care, then what is the need of a second party? If one party is doing a great job, then what is the need for another?

The truth is that America does not need political parties. All that does is create a fight between the two that results in the the needs of America falling by the wayside. If one party says,"we can do x", and the other says, "we don't think doing x is a good idea, vote for us," then what you have is a system where people vote for the party, not the candidate. Certainly, with modern day communication, the need for a political party has diminished. What it needs is a government that is a servant to the people of America, as said in the preamble to the Constitution.

Politics has been framed as a football game for way too long. A vs B. Time to throw away that old concept.

[totodeinhere]

41. My friend, that's a mighty big "if."

Power can even corrupt good well intentioned people. We will always need some kind of opposition to keep the party in power in check, even if that party is the Democrats.

[brush]

8. That's not written in stone anywhere. Other parties can arise. Who gives a fu_k about a party...

that tried to overthrown the government and is still backing the "big lie" lie and are as we speak, a proto-fascist movement?

No. Absolutely no pity for that insurrectionist, anti-democracy, vote suppresing entity.

[totodeinhere]

10. I am not asking for either support or pity for today's Republican Party.

But I do support our two party system. And I'm afraid that if the GOP does disappear their replacement might be much worse. Or if we devolve to a one party system that would not be in our best interests either.

[brush]

14. Like I said, other parties can arise. There's nothing special about just two parties.

We might be actually better off with more than two parties. And come on, there is now way a one-party system would survive for a second. Just as in vacuums, something would arise to fill it.

[wnylib]

28. Why would you think that the end of the Republican Party

would mean the end of a two party system? Do you really believe that all Americans would be of one political view? Hell, not even all Dems are of one view.

There are still conservatives in the US. There are also Independents, Libertarians, and Greens. There will always be groups of people who politically oppose the views of other political groups. It's basic human nature.

As for the demise of the Republican party, hell, yes. Best thing that could happen for the future of the US and democracy would be the end of that fascist, anti democracy party.

[lagomorph777]

17. One of the major parties is now just a criminal enterprise; it is illegitimate.

If it is not dismantled and replaced with an actual party, America is toast.

[wnylib]

31. +1000

[Eyeball_Kid]

32. The current GOP is run by fascist insurrectionists.

Biden’s apparent squeeze on the GOP is justified. Elements within the GOP can reclaim it as “loyal opposition”. But the current composition will destroy the country.

[patphil]

34. The Republican Party is doing a very good job of destroying themselves.

I don't think Democrats are working to destroy the Republican Party, only exposing the horror show that now constitutes the main body of the Republican Party, and showing how devastating their vision of the future is to the Republic.
It was during the 1990's that the Republican Party began to morph into the absolutely anti-constitution, anti-rule-of-law, Anti-American mess they now seem to be.
They have become part of a movement that wants to destroy the Republic, and re-make America in a very Putin-like false democracy, where white supremacists run everything.

The Democrat's goal is not to become a one party state, it's to protect the nation from the dangerous excesses of those people who now control the Republican Party. If it results in the dissolution of that party, then you can be sure one or more parties will spring up to take it's place. Politics abhors a vacuum.
Right now it's about economic recovery from the pandemic, and protecting voting rights. If we can't get the American voters to respond to this with their votes, we are in deep shit.

Make no mistake, this is a battle for the future of the Republic. The Democrats want to preserve the Republic, and the Republicans want to destroy it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

42. The two party system is a fabrication & a distortion. Nothing in Constitution requires it. . . . nt

[smb]

48. Destroying The GQP As It Now Exists Is Very Much In The Best Interest Of The American People

A new healthier two-party system will arise as the Manchkin faction splits off to form a new loyal opposition to replace the current disloyal one.

[brush]

6. And label the GOP the "Insurrectionist Party"...24/7 on cable, social media and in ads...

because that's what they are.

[WarGamer]

11. There are literally like 3 Centrist Republicans.

[sanatanadharma]

13. President Biden is well posed to make noise

President Biden is well poised to make noise.

He can afford to speak out in ways that President Obama felt he could not.
President Biden can afford to speak frankly about republican failures and danger to the USA.
The Republican Party is direct evidence of incompetence.

The President can use the 'in-our-face-truth' about republican values or lack there of. He need not say the are bad, but simply point over and over to bad-for-America republican behavior and intentions.

Those who will never hear the truth no matter how loud it is shouted are not going to vote democratic.
Those non-Democrats who actually have minds and hearts will see differently after a competent President and noisy 'in-your-face' "the Republican Party is a clear and present danger to the USA" messaging.

[Grasswire2]

15. as our friend and fellow DU member Thom Hartmann wrote this week........

.....Dems must continuously brand today's republicans as CORRUPT.

Citizens understand what corruption is, and they despise it.

A zillion examples of GOP corruption exist.

Hammer it home in messaging every moment, every day, from Dem leadership.

The old GOP is replaced by corruption. Fully, totally, corrupt.

Use the word over and over and over again. No Dem should go to a microphone to speak about Republican obstructionism without using the word

CORRUPTION.

[lagomorph777]

19. Absolutely.

[Budi]

46. Yet as much as was said in 2016, that warning was shut out as soon as it was spoken

The machine of Media & Social Media was clear who's voice was never to be heard.

In fact few heard that reinstating The Fairness Doctrine was a key policy message.

Media ran the table against the warnings..



"Burn it all down" ! they shouted over those warnings.
Foreign messaging, Silicon Valley, Steve Bannon , & his altRight, Peter Thiel, theft of Voter Data, ...you name it, they all got on board to gut the country & make themselves multimillionares in the end.

No one heard the warnings then, and that was the intent.

Fix media messaging.

[monkeyman1]

18. i call the " Reputin party " .

[lagomorph777]

22. I often do, too!

Sometimes I also call it the Reptilian Party, or just the GQP.

[monkeyman1]

29. feel free to use !!! I don't do social media crap'ola !! like your's choices too !!

[lagomorph777]

35. I've been using "Reputin" for quite a while.

And DU is about as close as I get to "social media."

[monkeyman1]

37. damn the bad luck ! sorry !

[NellieStarbuck]

21. Slobmaster. I like that. Has a nice ring. Let's use it.

[speaknow]

23. Don't think so.

[OnDoutside]

24. I don't know if it will work but great to hear him speak in those sort of terms. I wish more would

do so, as it might just gather momentum.

[empedocles]

26. Given the obvious trump record, and the many ongoing investigations, arrests, sentences,

with so much more to come - it seems obvious that many are 'wittingly' anticipating serious damage to the Republicon party.

[RegularJam]

27. The GOP is not something that can be destroyed.

Viewing politics with such a lender is guaranteed failure as it is an impossibility. We need a couple of seats. We might not even get them.

[Rocknation]

30. In view of the way Joe "unwittingly" helped put gay marriage on the map

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while he was Obama's vice president, it's a possibility...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1002673121#post10


rocktivity

[Pepsidog]

33. Sounds like a good plan.

[Mr.Bill]

36. They will still call us

Communist Marxist Socialists without even knowing the meaning of those words.

[C Moon]

39. The Republican party isn't going anywhere. There's too much money behind it.

If we can get rid of Citizens United, then the party will be in trouble.

[czarjak]

40. Rallying the Rubes? Good thing lost causes serve a purpose.

[Stuart G]

44. Ain't going to happen..Big Money will protect the Republican Party...

....We live in a 2 party environment...They said the same thing would happen to the Democratic
Party after the 1972 McGovern loss. Now you may not remember that one, but I worked for
McGovern in that election. Our side won one state...Just 1 state Mass...
...You don't believe?...well look up the 1972 election on google...
....Anyway, it didn't happen then, and won't happen now...

...This is a 2 party country...Leaders will step forward in the Republican Party to denounce Trump because he is poison, and those leaders will take over the party to save their party...And.....................

Donald Trump is indeed poison.., and the new leadership, in addition to big money will save their party, or change the name of their party and that political party will replace the ...TRUMP POLITICAL PARTY... , and that one will become the new Republican Party.
..............................Actually it will be the old one minus ...-Donald Trump

[DiamondShark]

47. I still think Nixon stole the election in 1972. n/t