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Andrew Yang: "Yes, mentally ill people have rights, but you know who else has rights? We do!" (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2021 OP
He's absolutely correct. Archae Jun 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #15
Have to agree with him here. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #2
Ray McGuire (African-American) and Diane Morales (Hispanic) had a sniping match in the debate brooklynite Jun 2021 #3
There should be no transition. RegularJam Jun 2021 #4
thank you... bahboo Jun 2021 #7
He's right. TraceNC Jun 2021 #5
Here's his full response. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #6
i wonder if this response will bring his support back up JI7 Jun 2021 #9
+1 dalton99a Jun 2021 #11
The clip from the OP is pretty much a "gotcha" set up True Dough Jun 2021 #13
Lol! Cupp's response accuses him of saying the opposite Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #14
Don't think he should be Mayor but I don't see the problem with what he said JI7 Jun 2021 #8
You can't lock someone in an institution torius Jun 2021 #10
He isn't being vague. He is clesrly talking about those causing problems JI7 Jun 2021 #12
I was referring to his torius Jun 2021 #18
Really gross to see responses buying into the "us vs them" in his answer. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #16
I agree with Yang BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #17
We know we have rights....that's not the point . Rustyeye77 Jun 2021 #19
He'd be a great Mayor OF NYC Polybius Jun 2021 #20

Response to Archae (Reply #1)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
2. Have to agree with him here.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 11:13 PM
Jun 2021

"Mental illness" is starting to become too much of an excuse.

Some of these people are just anti-social, angry, miserable assholes.

They shouldn't all be given a pass for being "mentally ill". Too many innocent people are being attacked and there has to be some way to legally hold these people responsible or take them off the streets.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
3. Ray McGuire (African-American) and Diane Morales (Hispanic) had a sniping match in the debate
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 11:16 PM
Jun 2021

McGuire said that New Yorkers of color didn't agree with the "Defund the Police" mantra. Morales said he couldn't speak for people of color.


 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
4. There should be no transition.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 11:19 PM
Jun 2021

Yes, they have rights. We will protect those rights while implementing a compassionate plan to deal with a serious problem. We are our brothers keeper and we will clean up by lifting them up.

Be it the severity of the problem in major cities or the behind closed door problem it is in many areas, this should be an easy general answer question for progressives. Then only one or two short and ambiguous details and you nailed it.

TraceNC

(254 posts)
5. He's right.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 11:24 PM
Jun 2021

Having the right to walk down the street “without fearing for safety” applies no matter who is causing the problem, though. But yeah, he’s right. We don’t do nearly enough for mental illness in this country. We should. Not just for those who need help, but for society as a whole.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
6. Here's his full response.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 11:24 PM
Jun 2021

Anyone who has a problem with it is just trying to pander and not solve the actual problem.


True Dough

(27,011 posts)
13. The clip from the OP is pretty much a "gotcha" set up
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:13 AM
Jun 2021

Perhaps Yang was a little ham-handed in how he presented it, but it's not like he doesn't care about people suffering from mental illness.



torius

(1,652 posts)
10. You can't lock someone in an institution
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 01:14 AM
Jun 2021

Unless you can prove they are a danger to themselves or others. Nor can you forcefully medicate them unless you can prove that.
Not all of them are violent.

They need housing, a home. Food and treatment. Ongoing support. A halfway house with services for instance.

He is being incredibly vague.

Bloomberg as Mayor actually put a lot of resources into homelessness but the issue is still there. And in New York, he’s talking about places where people have been harassed but some of them are dealing drugs or just scaring people by existing. It’s important to separate the ones who really cause probles from the ones wealthy people just don’t want to look at.

JI7

(93,780 posts)
12. He isn't being vague. He is clesrly talking about those causing problems
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 03:22 AM
Jun 2021

like attacking people. He even gives an example if it.

torius

(1,652 posts)
18. I was referring to his
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 06:33 PM
Jun 2021

solution of “adding psych beds” as being vague. More beds are needed, permanent housing is also needed.

The homeless people in hotels are now being moved back to dorm housing, some say they’d be safer on the street.

Most attacks are NOT by mentally ill—only 5% are. Some attackers claim mental illness after attacks.

I’m a longtime NYer who has worked w homeless teens and volunteered in an adult/family shelter and am also Asian and understand and feel fear too but the issue is not only about homeless mentally ill—some are violent, but there’s more to the issue. The public needs protection from all kinds of crime, not only crimes committed by homeless.

 

Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
19. We know we have rights....that's not the point .
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 08:25 PM
Jun 2021

A caring society doesn’t play “we have rights too”

It looks for answers to help those less fortunate.

I don’t have all the answers and probably neither do you but hopefully some smart people do.

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