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Throughout his presidency, Trump portrayed himself as a loyal supporter of Israel and bolstered his administration's work in fostering pacts between Israel and Gulf states. While the hope was that his actions would drive support with Jewish voters, his alignment with Israel wasn't enough to sway Jewish voters to support Republicans.
In an interview with Ami Magazine, an international publication that's geared toward the Orthodox Jewish community, Trump said he was "surprised" about the lack of Jewish votes he received.
"I did the Heights, I did Jerusalem, and I did Iranthe Iran Deal was a disaster, right?" Trump said. "Jewish people who live in the United States don't love Israel enough."
This isn't the first time Trump took issue with the perceived lack of support for Israel among Jewish people in America. In 2019, during a speech at the Israeli American Council Summit, Trump said there are Jewish people that are "great" but they "don't love Israel enough."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-jewish-people-dont-love-israel-enough-amid-complaint-about-lack-of-support/ar-AAL9o3R
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alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Is because they think it is a prophesy that when a certain temple is built Jesus comes back and guess what he does?
He slaughters ALL the Jews.
I could do without that kind of support.
atreides1
(16,799 posts)144,000 Convert and get to live...
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Blue Owl
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PatSeg
(53,517 posts)"I gave you something I thought you wanted, so why don't all of you love me all the time?"
And who the hell talks like this: "I did the Heights, I did Jerusalem, and I did Iran"? How do you DO the Heights, etc.? It makes my head hurt.
LetMyPeopleVote
(181,929 posts)I converted to Judaism a long time ago but I have been watching various christian sects who are pushing concepts like support of Israel will hasten a second coming
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As a Jew, I do not care why these groups support Israel and I know that Israel needs such support.
What scares me now is that there is a subset of the groups who want a second coming who also support the Former Guy and believe that reelection or reinstatement of the Former Guy will hasten a second coming. For example
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Now these supporters are evidently advocating or praying for violence to restore the Former Guy
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This is the End Times I'm talking about, a story about global events culminating in apocalyptic bloodshed that "reinstates" the King of Kings to his rightful place. It's a story millions of Americans tell themselves and their children. It's a story in which the messy and hard-to-understand world around us is no such thing. Instead, it is polarized as conflict between God's friends and God's enemies. The only difficulty is decoding the signs and symbols God lays out. Reality isn't real. Reality is a sinful illusion. What's real is the trail of secrets leading the chosen safely to The End. Argument, language, reasoningthey don't matter. Only they can know The Truth.
The conventional wisdom in Washington is that religion is off-limits. Therefore, the conventional wisdom in Washington does not see, because it will not see, that tens of millions of Americans already believe democracy is getting in the way of God's plan, that democracy isand I mean this seriouslydesecrating the sacredness of the US Constitution. As one critic put it, the Venn diagram showing the overlap of QAnon believers and white evangelical Protestants (and related groups) is actually a circle. When you stand with God against His enemies, you have God's permission to hate.
That's their religion. No, it's not a cult. It's more than that. It's deeper than that. The hate felt by the former president's supporters during four years' worth of political rallies is the same hate for America as it stands, not as they desire it to stand, that right-wing religious radicals have felt since post-Civil War America. That's when Charles Darwin's theories and what they determined about humanity's place in God's divine scheme first gained traction in the United States. Every single intellectual developmentfrom evolution then to Critical Race Theory nowhas been met with such hate. I don't understand why the conventional wisdom looks away from history.
Because it's easier, I guess. It's easier to maintain the myth of the civic religion; to be shocked by Americans talking about a military coup; to blame the former president for imperiling the world's oldest democracy. It's easier to respect religion without scrutinizing it too much, and risk discovering it's steeped in hate, which might force the conventional wisdom in Washington to take responsibility. On this one-year anniversary since Trump gassed Americans out of the way for a photo-op of him holding a Bible in front of a church, we need the truth. And that's never been easy.
The idiots who support Israel for the sake of a second coming scare me. The trump supporters who want a revolution really scare me. We came close to a full blown civil war on Jan. 6 and there are a good number of trump supporters who are still praying for such a civil war to reinstate their leader/messiah. There are still risks of a civil war or other attempt to reinstall trump.
I hope that the prosecution and conviction of trump may help but I may be wrong. We live in scary times
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)our future may resemble what Northern Ireland went through in its Troubles, which would be frequent domestic terrorist attacks. I hope we can avoid that future.
agingdem
(8,957 posts)and a stupid one at that...while we support Israel's right to exist we are Americans ...our loyalty is to the United States not to Israel or an odious corrupt racist grifter...what he insists he "gave" us was never his to give and certainly did not buy our devotion or our donation dollars...and that's what the orange sonofabitch doesn't get...and forget the "but what about souless siliconed Ivanka/Jared?"... if daddy hadn't seen something in it for him the Trump/Kushner merger/marriage would have gone nowhere...
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)The GQP should stop being the party of nazis.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)FUDJT
no_hypocrisy
(55,354 posts)would be his shiksa goddess Jewish convert daughter, Ivanka, making the same pronouncement. (Yeah, I know he said "loves Israel enough, but the implication is there.)
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,996 posts)It's fundamentalist Christians most of the moves cited in the article pleased.
struggle4progress
(126,683 posts)and I blame you!
PlanetBev
(4,416 posts)I do. I support Israel, but not at the expense of justice for the Palestinians and not at the expense of my own country.