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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(137,318 posts)
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 01:18 PM Jun 2021

Trump Says Jewish People 'Don't Love Israel Enough' Amid Complaint About Lack of Support

Throughout his presidency, Trump portrayed himself as a loyal supporter of Israel and bolstered his administration's work in fostering pacts between Israel and Gulf states. While the hope was that his actions would drive support with Jewish voters, his alignment with Israel wasn't enough to sway Jewish voters to support Republicans.

In an interview with Ami Magazine, an international publication that's geared toward the Orthodox Jewish community, Trump said he was "surprised" about the lack of Jewish votes he received.

"I did the Heights, I did Jerusalem, and I did Iran—the Iran Deal was a disaster, right?" Trump said. "Jewish people who live in the United States don't love Israel enough."

This isn't the first time Trump took issue with the perceived lack of support for Israel among Jewish people in America. In 2019, during a speech at the Israeli American Council Summit, Trump said there are Jewish people that are "great" but they "don't love Israel enough."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-jewish-people-dont-love-israel-enough-amid-complaint-about-lack-of-support/ar-AAL9o3R

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Trump Says Jewish People 'Don't Love Israel Enough' Amid Complaint About Lack of Support (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2021 OP
The only reason extreme right wing Xtians who support trumpety support Isreal alphafemale Jun 2021 #1
Not all of them atreides1 Jun 2021 #2
I thought the JW's claimed those spots nt alphafemale Jun 2021 #3
Only Dementia Donnie knows what it truly means to love a country Blue Owl Jun 2021 #4
The fool doesn't understand anything at all PatSeg Jun 2021 #5
TFG and his supporters support Israel on belief of a second coming LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #6
I think, rather than a civil war, Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #13
the orange cretin is a quid quo pro anti-semite.. agingdem Jun 2021 #7
Well perhaps... Ohio Joe Jun 2021 #8
He understands NOTHING Rustyeye77 Jun 2021 #9
The only thing more comical than Trump calling non-fundamentalist Jews "not Jewish enough" no_hypocrisy Jun 2021 #10
Jewish opinion on Israel is a lot more nuanced that dolt believes. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2021 #11
No one knows what its like to feel these feelings like I do struggle4progress Jun 2021 #12
Asshole doesn't even have a dog in the fight PlanetBev Jun 2021 #14
 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
1. The only reason extreme right wing Xtians who support trumpety support Isreal
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 01:24 PM
Jun 2021

Is because they think it is a prophesy that when a certain temple is built Jesus comes back and guess what he does?

He slaughters ALL the Jews.

I could do without that kind of support.

PatSeg

(53,517 posts)
5. The fool doesn't understand anything at all
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 01:55 PM
Jun 2021

"I gave you something I thought you wanted, so why don't all of you love me all the time?"

And who the hell talks like this: "I did the Heights, I did Jerusalem, and I did Iran"? How do you DO the Heights, etc.? It makes my head hurt.

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,929 posts)
6. TFG and his supporters support Israel on belief of a second coming
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 01:58 PM
Jun 2021

I converted to Judaism a long time ago but I have been watching various christian sects who are pushing concepts like support of Israel will hasten a second coming



As a Jew, I do not care why these groups support Israel and I know that Israel needs such support.

What scares me now is that there is a subset of the groups who want a second coming who also support the Former Guy and believe that reelection or reinstatement of the Former Guy will hasten a second coming. For example


Now these supporters are evidently advocating or praying for violence to restore the Former Guy



Fact is, lots of Americans believe they are God's chosen people. They believe the end of the world is coming, according to God's divine plan. They believe the US Constitution is a covenant with them only, and that a genocidal purge will preface Christ's return.

This is the End Times I'm talking about, a story about global events culminating in apocalyptic bloodshed that "reinstates" the King of Kings to his rightful place. It's a story millions of Americans tell themselves and their children. It's a story in which the messy and hard-to-understand world around us is no such thing. Instead, it is polarized as conflict between God's friends and God's enemies. The only difficulty is decoding the signs and symbols God lays out. Reality isn't real. Reality is a sinful illusion. What's real is the trail of secrets leading the chosen safely to The End. Argument, language, reasoning—they don't matter. Only they can know The Truth.

The conventional wisdom in Washington is that religion is off-limits. Therefore, the conventional wisdom in Washington does not see, because it will not see, that tens of millions of Americans already believe democracy is getting in the way of God's plan, that democracy is—and I mean this seriously—desecrating the sacredness of the US Constitution. As one critic put it, the Venn diagram showing the overlap of QAnon believers and white evangelical Protestants (and related groups) is actually a circle. When you stand with God against His enemies, you have God's permission to hate.

That's their religion. No, it's not a cult. It's more than that. It's deeper than that. The hate felt by the former president's supporters during four years' worth of political rallies is the same hate for America as it stands, not as they desire it to stand, that right-wing religious radicals have felt since post-Civil War America. That's when Charles Darwin's theories and what they determined about humanity's place in God's divine scheme first gained traction in the United States. Every single intellectual development—from evolution then to Critical Race Theory now—has been met with such hate. I don't understand why the conventional wisdom looks away from history.

Because it's easier, I guess. It's easier to maintain the myth of the civic religion; to be shocked by Americans talking about a military coup; to blame the former president for imperiling the world's oldest democracy. It's easier to respect religion without scrutinizing it too much, and risk discovering it's steeped in hate, which might force the conventional wisdom in Washington to take responsibility. On this one-year anniversary since Trump gassed Americans out of the way for a photo-op of him holding a Bible in front of a church, we need the truth. And that's never been easy.

The idiots who support Israel for the sake of a second coming scare me. The trump supporters who want a revolution really scare me. We came close to a full blown civil war on Jan. 6 and there are a good number of trump supporters who are still praying for such a civil war to reinstate their leader/messiah. There are still risks of a civil war or other attempt to reinstall trump.

I hope that the prosecution and conviction of trump may help but I may be wrong. We live in scary times

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
13. I think, rather than a civil war,
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 04:01 PM
Jun 2021

our future may resemble what Northern Ireland went through in its Troubles, which would be frequent domestic terrorist attacks. I hope we can avoid that future.

agingdem

(8,957 posts)
7. the orange cretin is a quid quo pro anti-semite..
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jun 2021

and a stupid one at that...while we support Israel's right to exist we are Americans ...our loyalty is to the United States not to Israel or an odious corrupt racist grifter...what he insists he "gave" us was never his to give and certainly did not buy our devotion or our donation dollars...and that's what the orange sonofabitch doesn't get...and forget the "but what about souless siliconed Ivanka/Jared?"... if daddy hadn't seen something in it for him the Trump/Kushner merger/marriage would have gone nowhere...

no_hypocrisy

(55,354 posts)
10. The only thing more comical than Trump calling non-fundamentalist Jews "not Jewish enough"
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 03:10 PM
Jun 2021

would be his shiksa goddess Jewish convert daughter, Ivanka, making the same pronouncement. (Yeah, I know he said "loves Israel enough, but the implication is there.)

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,996 posts)
11. Jewish opinion on Israel is a lot more nuanced that dolt believes.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jun 2021

It's fundamentalist Christians most of the moves cited in the article pleased.

PlanetBev

(4,416 posts)
14. Asshole doesn't even have a dog in the fight
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 04:02 PM
Jun 2021

I do. I support Israel, but not at the expense of justice for the Palestinians and not at the expense of my own country.

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