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Hippo_The_Pointer

(80 posts)
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 06:08 PM Jun 2021

Labelling - Christo-Nationalism or Christo-Fascism?

One thing I think the right wing has excelled at for a long time is labeling their enemies. They've made certain words toxic in the minds of their base (e.g. liberal, socialist, etc). The right can then quickly string together smear after smear simply by weaving these toxic words into a sentence. Red meat for the base and an easy rhetorical tool even the dumbest GQP candidate can leverage. They're so good at this they've even made being 'anti-fascist' toxic to their base!

I think at times centrists and those to the left of center haven't replied to this effectively. We can try and educate them (ha) about who the fascists were or we can talk about Europe or Canada and how things work in other countries, but that effort is most often just a waste of time. It rolls off their backs, whilst leaving us frustrated!

In watching the behavior of the right in the past few years I personal feel it is time to put a better label on the extremism that is solidifying to the far right. I know some people have started to use the term Christo-Nationalists, but my reaction is that the term combines two things the right love - Christianity and Nationalism.

Instead, is it better to use the stronger term Christo-Fascists? Ultimately the over throw of democracy and the installation of an orange idol is a classic fascist move.

Any other labels that adequately capture what is happening on the right? I can think a of a few, but they are unprintable and not for polite company Would it be possible to be more consistent in labeling the extremist tendencies we are seeing gather steam? Thoughts anyone?

The Hippo

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Labelling - Christo-Nationalism or Christo-Fascism? (Original Post) Hippo_The_Pointer Jun 2021 OP
Christo-Fascist works for me Jilly_in_VA Jun 2021 #1
The Croatian Ustaa of the 1930s-1940s was an example of Clerical Fascism DBoon Jun 2021 #2

Jilly_in_VA

(9,971 posts)
1. Christo-Fascist works for me
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 06:42 PM
Jun 2021

We call them Talibangelicals in our house. Somewhere I read this brand of religion being called "Amerianity" but I can't credit the author because I don't remember.

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
2. The Croatian Ustaa of the 1930s-1940s was an example of Clerical Fascism
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jun 2021
The Ustaša – Croatian Revolutionary Movement (Croatian: Ustaša – Hrvatski revolucionarni pokret), commonly known as Ustaše (pronounced [ûstaʃe]) or by anglicised versions Ustasha or Ustashe, was a Croatian fascist and ultranationalist organization[2] active, as one organization, between 1929 and 1945. Its members murdered hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Jews,[3] and Roma as well as political dissidents in Yugoslavia during World War II.[4][5][6]

Much of the ideology of the Ustaše was based on Nazi racial theory. Like the Nazis, the Ustaše deemed Jews, Romani, and Slavs to be sub-humans (Untermenschen). They endorsed the claims from German racial theorists that Croats were not Slavs but a Germanic race. Their genocides against Serbs, against the Jews, and against the Romani were thus expressions of Nazi racial ideology. However, the Ustaše viewed the Bosniaks as "Muslim Croats," not Slavs, and as a result did not persecute Muslim Bosniaks on the basis of race.[7]

In addition to Nazi racial theory, the Ustaše ideology incorporated fascism, Roman Catholicism and Croatian nationalism.[4] The Ustaše supported the creation of a Greater Croatia that would span the Drina River and extend to the border of Belgrade.[8] The movement emphasized the need for a racially "pure" Croatia and promoted genocide against Serbs, Jews and Romani people, and persecution of anti-fascist or dissident Croats and Bosniaks.


from wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e

and also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_fascism
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