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The next election could be the last election (Original Post) superpatriotman Jun 2021 OP
I hope not AlexPontik Jun 2021 #1
I hope not, there was a reason the dems did what they did today Bev54 Jun 2021 #14
At Least Some Of Us Won't Be Surprised SoCalDavidS Jun 2021 #2
Some of us won't be surprised. You're right. hamsterjill Jun 2021 #5
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #17
A little exaggerated!! Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #3
Well superpatriotman Jun 2021 #8
If the Constitution is "broken", how do you propose fixing it, given that amending it is a practical Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #10
Oh wow padah513 Jun 2021 #13
Hyperbole. brooklynite Jun 2021 #4
For Now SoCalDavidS Jun 2021 #7
Democracy will always have to be fought for. RegularJam Jun 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Moostache Jun 2021 #9
Will you be one of the "forward thinking people" leading the charge to take over our nukes? Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Moostache Jun 2021 #15
If you truly believe you're going to be killed in the near future, why are you posting about it Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #20
This would make a great screenplay, wouldn't it? Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #21
Lin-Manuel Miranda is one of the leads? Blue Storm Rising needs to be a musical! Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #22
The main song is "Put Up Your Dukes, We're Here for Your Nukes." Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #24
The missile silo crew responds with a Little Richard number: Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #27
I say we do this, and we both get screenplay credit. You in? N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #28
Absolutely! Let me just call my agent..... Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #32
This gave me a good chuckle. tritsofme Jun 2021 #31
Who will "kill you as a dissident?" Treefrog Jun 2021 #34
Many Freepers agree with you. Some say American democracy is already dead. Kaleva Jun 2021 #11
The 2020 election may have been the last. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #16
Since nothing of note will ever be done to stop or even slow down climate change marie999 Jun 2021 #18
Trashing... PortTack Jun 2021 #19
I think it's more accurate to say that, in many parts of the country, it may ... Whiskeytide Jun 2021 #25
People have been saying that since Bush. Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #23
Unless we control the Senate by more than two seats, then I think the OP is correct. The odds are JohnSJ Jun 2021 #26
The next election could be the last election FelineOverlord Jun 2021 #29
People have been predicting the last election PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #30
As the great John Lewis said... New Breed Leader Jun 2021 #33

Bev54

(10,072 posts)
14. I hope not, there was a reason the dems did what they did today
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:42 PM
Jun 2021

I am hoping it was just the first step in them overturning any opposition in their own party to the amendment of the filibuster and passing a bill.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
5. Some of us won't be surprised. You're right.
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:29 PM
Jun 2021

And some others will still be on DU insisting that we just need to get more votes, etc.

I'm not sure some realize the gravity of the situation right NOW!

superpatriotman

(6,252 posts)
8. Well
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:31 PM
Jun 2021

There will be other elections, but when your vote doesn’t count, or when it can be tossed out by a faceless repuke legislator at state level who ‘feels’ that there may have been issues with it, why bother to ever vote again?

The Constitution is broken. It needs an update. Full stop.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
10. If the Constitution is "broken", how do you propose fixing it, given that amending it is a practical
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:33 PM
Jun 2021

impossibility at this time?

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
6. Democracy will always have to be fought for.
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:30 PM
Jun 2021

History proves it’s easier to lose than it is to keep.

There was an election today in the US. There will be elections in the near future(next couple of years, at last).

Keep fighting. We’ve lost nothing.

Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Response to Dial H For Hero (Reply #12)

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
20. If you truly believe you're going to be killed in the near future, why are you posting about it
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:53 PM
Jun 2021

rather taking steps to prevent it, or at least make it less likely? If I thought such a thing were in my future, rest assured that the last thing I'd be doing would arguing about it on DU!

As for the nukes, if you want to DISABLE THEM (your caps, not mine), that does rather presuppose that you'll need to get control of them in the first place, yes? That will of necessity require you to take them over, at least long enough to put them out of commission.

I would also point out that in addition to all of the nukes in the missile silos, you'll need to get control of the ones which are launched from fighters and bombers. Then there's the small matter of our boomers (nuclear missile submarines), a number of which are at sea at any given time.

This sounds like quite the undertaking! But please do elaborate on your plans.

Jedi Guy

(3,254 posts)
21. This would make a great screenplay, wouldn't it?
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jun 2021

A scrappy band of dedicated progressives infiltrating the nuclear silos to take control of and then dismantle the nukes! Sneaking onto airbases to disable the bombers! Scuba-diving to slip into the launch tubes on the boomers so they can be taken out! Chris Pratt and Lin-Manuel Miranda as the leading men, Jennifer Lawrence and Lupita Nyong'o as the leading ladies! In summer 2023, the hottest movie will be... Blue Storm Rising.

Might have to work on that title, but still, I smell Oscar bait!

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
32. Absolutely! Let me just call my agent.....
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 08:03 PM
Jun 2021

If we get writer's block, we can always just find some old movie with a similar plot and file off the serial numbers.

Let's see....a well intentioned activist who's known for advocating for justice and truth rids the world of nuclear weapons, despite the villainous machinations of an evil capitalist.

Got it! Granted, compared to our film it's a bit too gritty and realistic, but it should serve as a basic template.


Kaleva

(36,351 posts)
11. Many Freepers agree with you. Some say American democracy is already dead.
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:38 PM
Jun 2021

I find it interesting to lurk there and read their posts wailing about the loss of their cherished county and the destruction of the Constitution.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
18. Since nothing of note will ever be done to stop or even slow down climate change
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:47 PM
Jun 2021

I don't think that by the turn of the century at the very latest there will be any real federal governments anywhere. But then I have a very low opinion of humanity as a whole.

Whiskeytide

(4,463 posts)
25. I think it's more accurate to say that, in many parts of the country, it may ...
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jun 2021

… be the last “fair” election for some time. It’s going to take a long time to undo this shit, and the question is whether democracy - as we conceive of it - can survive long enough to come out on the other side.

As for a shooting war - nah. Not going to happen. But the effective and practical suspension of free and fair elections is a legit concern right now.

Elessar Zappa

(14,063 posts)
23. People have been saying that since Bush.
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:19 PM
Jun 2021

We’ve only been a true democracy for fifty plus years and it will always be hard to maintain it.

JohnSJ

(92,404 posts)
26. Unless we control the Senate by more than two seats, then I think the OP is correct. The odds are
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:33 PM
Jun 2021

against winning the House because of gerrymandering, and the Senate is our last chance to replace as many judges as we can before the next general election

To all those self identified “progressives” who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election in 2016, by either not voting or voting third party, **** you



FelineOverlord

(3,591 posts)
29. The next election could be the last election
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:47 PM
Jun 2021

Over 80M of us ARE NOT GOING AWAY.

And we will NOT ACCEPT our votes not being counted or VOTER SUPPRESSION any longer.

It will make the summer of 2020 U.S. protests look like child's play by comparison.

Over 80M Americans with the force of the 2020 U.S. BLM protests, 2020 Belarus protests, and 2021 Myanmar protests COMBINED AND EXPANDED!

We are the LOUD MAJORITY.





PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,898 posts)
30. People have been predicting the last election
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:54 PM
Jun 2021

at least since FDR. There was a widely held belief before the 2004 election that Bush would somehow simply cancel that election. Didn't happen. And despite how hard Trump tried, he was not able to overturn last year's election.

So I feel confident that we'll go on having elections for a long time.

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