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The curious concern of red state creeps over crime in "Democrat-run cities" only brings to light the utter disaster conservative states are mired in. When it comes to statistics that determine quality of life, Republican states represent the bulk of the very bottom. The best way to fix this is to enlighten the Tom Cottons, Marsha Blackburns et al. just what terrible shape the states they represent are in, and the best use of their oversized pie holes is to look homeward and speak to the problems that make their districts a collective national embarrassment.
Below is a series of stats that should humble your Mitch McConnells and Gym Jordans (if they had a shred of character). While there are occasional blue states that mingle among the bottom, it is red states that shine as the worst.
20 states with the Highest Poverty Rates (U.S. Census)
Montana
Florida
Missouri
Michigan
New York
Ohio
Arizona
Georgia
North Carolina
Texas
South Carolina
Tennessee
Oklahoma
Alabama
West Virginia
Arkansas
Kentucky
New Mexico
Louisiana
Mississippi
15 States with the Lowest GDP Per Capita (U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis)
Michigan
Missouri
Tennessee
New Mexico
Florida
Montana
Kentucky
Maine
Arizona
Alabama
South Carolina
Arkansas
West Virginia
Idaho
Mississippi
Nine States with the Highest % of SS Disability Recipients (SSA)
South Carolina
Tennessee
Missouri
Arkansas
Mississippi
Alabama
Kentucky
West Virginia
Maine
10 States with Worst Health Care Quality (Agency for HC Research and Quality)
Arkansas
California
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Nevada
New Mexico
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas
20 States with Highest Infant Mortality Rate (CDC)
Maryland
Florida
Missouri
Delaware
West Virginia
Michigan
Indiana
South Dakota
North Carolina
Arkansas
Ohio
South Carolina
Georgia
Wyoming
Tennessee
Oklahoma
North Dakota
Alabama
Louisiana
Mississippi
Ocelot II
(115,659 posts)because he wanted to pay less income tax.
I guess you get what you pay for.
BaronChocula
(1,535 posts)when you shoot yourself in the foot.
Patterson
(1,529 posts)3catwoman3
(23,968 posts)countries in order to receive the benefits they do. Sign me up!
underpants
(182,734 posts)They know the code words.
BaronChocula
(1,535 posts)The vast majority of consistent Republican voters that are left vote based on their white identity and not on health outcomes, for example. As white nationalists, the worst thing they could be is a "race traitor" or "'Negro' lover".
paleotn
(17,902 posts)Or were you born and raised in the south? Your translation is perfect.
underpants
(182,734 posts)Critical Race Theory is the new Canadians to them. Basically everything is racially based to them.
NBA
NFL
Obamas third term
Etc.
OMGWTF
(3,949 posts)Its a slur against the Democratic Party.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)bullshit from 'Pukes, about how "Democrat" cities are just like Kabul and Port Au Prince.....
BaronChocula
(1,535 posts)Kentucky is almost as bad as Arkansas.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)What is the source of your data?
BaronChocula
(1,535 posts)LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,181 posts).
States having problems pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps or love taking OPM.
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LaMouffette
(2,020 posts)The ol' "Make America Great Again!" bull-shittery doesn't work on voters who are fairly content with their lives.
Hey! It just occurred to me that this also explains why the Republicans have given up any attempt to come up with any kind of legislation to actually improve the lives of Americans: they want to keep their voters angry and riled up so that they will vote for the party they THINK will ride to their rescue.
BComplex
(8,029 posts)They make stupid people think they're being cared for.
LaMouffette
(2,020 posts)when she said that as a Catholic she does not hate Trump, but that her heart, instead, is filled with love, and that she prays for him. (Something along those lines.) I don't follow any one religion, but that resonated with me. So I'm trying not to hate them, but to feel sorry for them instead and to see them as victims. This is extremely hard to do, though, when they act so hideously.
LaMouffette
(2,020 posts)Keep 'em miserable and keep 'em dumb. That's how the GOP likes their voters.
BaronChocula
(1,535 posts)Republicans suck so much, and I only have so much time. I wanted to do a search of literacy rates. I may revisit with addendums.
bucolic_frolic
(43,118 posts)No sane person with an IQ over 92 would freely choose to remain there.
BaronChocula
(1,535 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)It's a race to the bottom. Year after year, election after election. How frigging depressing.
Lonestarblue
(9,963 posts)Pregnancy can be dangerous, and Republican states have some of the worst death rates. These numbers are from worldpopulationrwview.com.
Here are the 10 states with the highest maternal mortality:
Louisiana (58.1 per 100k)
Georgia (48.4 per 100k)
Indiana (43.6 per 100k)
New Jersey (38.1 per 100k)
Arkansas (37.5 per 100k)
Alabama (36.4 per 100k)
Missouri (34.6 per 100k)
Texas (34.5 per 100k)
South Carolina (27.9 per 100k)
Arizona (27.3 per 100k)
You can kick Arizona off that list as maternity may not be big in a state loaded with those over age 60.
But Indiana and New Jersey are the 3rd and 4th worst? How?
soldierant
(6,836 posts)or only a few when tou are looking at a percentage. (Technically, a ratio.)
spooky3
(34,427 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,257 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,628 posts)IronLionZion
(45,409 posts)that's why the GOP politicians love to talk about complete nonsense instead of any governance or attempt to improve any of these metrics.
kimbutgar
(21,111 posts)Id also like to see what these states contribute to the Federal coffers vs take.
I remember seeing a chart showing California and New York contribute more than they take and these deep red states are the true welfare states. The sad thing is that the residents of the taker states are more easily deceived by the similar repuke propaganda because of their poor education. Why they keep voting repuke when the repukes do nothing for them but give tax cuts is insane.
underpants
(182,734 posts)Look where those are...because we never know when that Spanish Armada might pop back up or Mexico invades us.
ProfessorGAC
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For some large traditional blue states, California receives only 96 cents, Massachusetts 83 cents, Connecticut 82 cents, New York 81 cents, and New Jersey 74 cents for every tax dollar they sent to Washington. The discrepancy is significant.
[link:https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/carroll/opinion/cc-op-zirpoli-050620-20200506-7ya7okjfk5btdpysnrnrfouyz4-story.html|
There's also ranking for federal dependency (for state & for residents). Illinois is not high on the list above, but is very high on that dependency. Almost all states high in dependency are red states.
On Edit: I found a link to the dependency ranking.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700
Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)bringthePaine
(1,727 posts)paleotn
(17,902 posts)with the new and improved delta variant of Covid-19. Outside of collateral damage, my heart does not bleed.
Warpy
(111,227 posts)It's a desert state in the best of times and it's not the best of times, there is a drought out here that has been amended from a 50 year event to a century to 500 years and now 1000 years. It's bad. Plus, most of the state is straight up and down, it]s the southern Rockies. The main river is not navigable It will always be a poor state. in other words.
However, a lot of the legal and social stuff we take for granted here would be considered radical in Boston.
Other poor states on the list have a lot more resources going for them than NM has. What they lack are people who give a damn about anything but power who can get elected, usually because of ingrained cultural horse shit and a strong bias toward sadism and gratuitous cruelty to any "other."
Trust_Reality
(1,722 posts)SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)The best way (IMO) to fix this is not by enlightening CottonMouth or the others....it's by pointing it out to those who vote. Just sayin...
BaronChocula
(1,535 posts)I have no intention on changing their mindlessness. What it would do is weaken them by putting them on defense... if any journalists would ever point this out. Marsha can't go on about critical race theory if she's defending why her state has such a high infant mortality rate.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)And it will be the same for infrastructure. The states will decline taking the money and building or fixing things, because they are cowards who are afraid of people learning how effective a democratic administration can be.
paleotn
(17,902 posts)Much of the stats above, and I would extend that to their politics, can be tied to these stats and visa versa. Educated work force, anyone?
% bachelors degree or higher. Top 20. No wonder they hate DC so much.
District of Columbia 50.1
Massachusetts 39.0
Colorado 36.4
Maryland 36.1
Connecticut 35.5
New Jersey 35.4
Virginia 34.2
Vermont 33.6
New Hampshire 32.8
New York 32.5
Minnesota 31.8
Washington 31.1
Illinois 30.8
Rhode Island 30.2
California 30.1
Kansas 29.8
Hawaii 29.5
Utah 29.3
Montana 28.8
Oregon 28.8
Bottom 20.
Texas 25.9
Florida 25.8
Missouri 25.6
Michigan 25.2
New Mexico 25.0
Iowa 24.9
Ohio 24.6
South Carolina 24.5
Idaho 24.4
Wyoming 24.1
Tennessee 23.1
Oklahoma 22.9
Indiana 22.7
Alabama 21.9
Nevada 21.7
Louisiana 21.4
Kentucky 20.5
Arkansas 19.5
Mississippi 19.5
West Virginia 17.5
BaronChocula
(1,535 posts)Thanks for that.
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)in these states. The White House released a 4 minute ad for the internet using a woman from Kentucky driving around showing the problems with Eastern Kentucky. No potable water, roads and bridges unusable. One bridge had a sign that said China Build Us A Bridge. And Dems should be on every media platform touting the American Rescue Plan and how it will begin to put direct payments into families with children starting July 15. And they should make it known that no Rs voted for it. When that money starts hitting their accounts then dare the Rs to take it away. Dems need to hire more some Never Trumpers like The Lincoln Project who know how to play hardball.
[link:https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article252110598.html|
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)is not on any of these shit lists.
That's because the GOP's greasy paws are kept off of the levers of government as much as possible here.
Illinois Wins ! Trumptrash states are losers.
jalan48
(13,853 posts)ladym55
(2,577 posts)The legislature is gerrymandered and stupid. (Think Gym Jordan.) The point of all legislation is to make the very wealthy wealthier (it's good for bidness, don't ya know) and to be as cruel as possible to the poor. Right now the legislators are happily making it harder for families to access SNAP benefits. So, you have decent car to get you to the job we demand you have??? No SNAP for YOU!!! So you worked hard and saved a little money? No SNAP for you.
In education--funnel public funds to private schools and charters.
The legislature is even trying to block municipal broadband, which has been a huge success in REPUBLICAN suburban communities.
And then there is the constant attack on reproductive health and on the LGBTQ community.
Golly, and Ohio wonders why SO many young residents are leaving. ...
oldsoftie
(12,516 posts)And its BEEN that way forever. You have to report ANY new income every MONTH and then they'll adjust your rent subsidy. Its ridiculous. We have to adjust tenant shares 5-6 times a year sometimes. Waste of time. I've flat out told tenants that if they ever want to get off the system they'll have to cheat to do it. A couple have done just that and ended up voluntarily leaving it & being able to buy a house. But it was in SPITE of the govt, not because of it.
former9thward
(31,964 posts)How are they Trump states?
Kingofalldems
(38,443 posts)75% Trump on list #2.
Close to 90% on list #3.
80% on list 4.
Don't know what you mean by 'quite a few'. Wow.
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former9thward
(31,964 posts)There is a mixture of states including huge states like CA, NY and MI. Also there is no definition of what "crisis" is.
infullview
(978 posts)This skews the result for both GDP and SS
NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)at the top or close to it of this dung heap. Small wonder our guvernator DeInSane, AKA mini-trump, is among the leaders in RePutinican 2024 Presidential hopefuls. The shittier your job performance in Repub circles the better your approval rating.
Their mindset like their world is ASSBACKWARDS.
iemanja
(53,026 posts)add to that the worst school systems, and it explains how the GOP is able to maintain power in those states.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)Look who is in charge of most of these states..
Guess who is in charge of the most populous states (not on the list)?
Just so you know...most populous are, and not on the list
New York
California
Illinois
etc...
moonscape
(4,673 posts)what thats about?
niyad
(113,215 posts)Kablooie
(18,623 posts)Because they don't want a better life.
They just want to bring everyone else down to their level.
Faux pas
(14,657 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Hardly any surprise.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Things have been this way for 50 years, so it's normal to them.
Dems have to come up with a way to convince them they're being short-changed and taken advantage of by the Repubs. But saying to their face that they're ignorant savages that hate the rest of America has proven to not work.
And you can't just send Biden or Obama up there to say it once or twice. The effort has to be given over time to make these kinds of gains / changes. A post on DU here and there, and a bunch of people going "yeah, those fucks need to learn" is a great way to get angry and accomplish absolutely nothing. Except maybe a little venting.
lastlib
(23,197 posts)I've got a rock on my desk for a paperweight that has a better chance of getting "enlightenment" than the Gatezes, the Boeberts, the Cottons, the Blackburns, and the Greenes do. Some idjits are impervious to light, and they're at the head of the class.
Initech
(100,057 posts)Oh yeah that's right - absolutely nowhere!
pandr32
(11,574 posts)We should build on this.