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Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:12 PM

 

Fun topic. What should be required reading before posting to a political discussion board?

https://catalogue.pearsoned.ca/educator/product/Ethics-Applied-Edition-20/9780536018670.page

Applied Ethics would be my choice. Interestingly enough, this simple book has had a profound impact on me. While it might seem very basic to many of you, it isn't even close. I have yet to see an op that garners more then ten responses where at least one of them is not a blatant fallacy. Political discussion boards would be turned upside down if people were educated on fallacies and other unethical debating tactics. Such a book also delves into easy ways to spot statistics and facts that are being used in an unethical manner.

Of course the TOS is the only thing one should really be required to read. This is just for fun.

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Reply Fun topic. What should be required reading before posting to a political discussion board? (Original post)
RegularJam Jun 2021 OP
CurtEastPoint Jun 2021 #1
Towlie Jun 2021 #2
RegularJam Jun 2021 #5
Bucky Jun 2021 #15
SharonClark Jun 2021 #21
GusBob Jun 2021 #3
RegularJam Jun 2021 #7
GusBob Jun 2021 #19
treestar Jun 2021 #17
Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #4
RegularJam Jun 2021 #6
PETRUS Jun 2021 #10
Bucky Jun 2021 #8
RegularJam Jun 2021 #13
lame54 Jun 2021 #9
RegularJam Jun 2021 #12
Tomconroy Jun 2021 #11
Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #14
Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #16
PETRUS Jun 2021 #20
Initech Jun 2021 #18
RegularJam Jun 2021 #25
Firestorm49 Jun 2021 #22
RegularJam Jun 2021 #24
Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #26
StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #23

Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:19 PM

1. Atlas Shrugged. JUST KIDDING!

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:23 PM

2. How about an elementary school spelling book?




... Just kidding.

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Response to Towlie (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:31 PM

5. I have yet to have that issue cloud the meaning of a post I was reading.

 

I'm sure it happens.

With people positing from phones, their home computer with porn on in the background, from their tablet while behind the wheel of their car....

I would also argue that many people with very well put together arguments come to the table with their life experiences shaping their views, a formal education not being one of those experiences.

My expectations for spelling are somewhat low.

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Response to RegularJam (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:42 PM

15. When I use a qwerty board, I frequently mistype "now" for "not" & vice versa

My voice-to-text frequently finds the perfect autocorrect to pervert my meaning.

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Response to Towlie (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 05:31 PM

21. A dictionary and a manual on "How to Proof Read".

And I'm not kidding.

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:25 PM

3. I shall play along!

I don't know if outside reading would help with every post or topic, but here is a blanket reading rec, other than the TOS

Before you comment on a topic or thread:

One should read the entire OP, including the link if there is one ( the question you are about to ask or the point you are about to make is often addressed in the link, folks)
One should read all the replies as well. (they are, after all the point of a discussion board)
One should try and understand the points being made (reading comprehension is a huge problem everywhere in life, especially on the net and social) before flying off half-cocked and knee jerked ( guilty myself at times)

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Response to GusBob (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:36 PM

7. Love this though I do break one of your rules.

 

When I am going to very thoughtfully and thoroughly reply to an op I purposefully do not read the replies. It's a time when I like to hang myself out there. Something like this happens on topics I'm somewhat well versed on. Then I go back to read the replies.

Please note it is only under those circumstances when I don't read the replies first.

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Response to RegularJam (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:56 PM

19. Case in point

See the Blaire Erskine Op just posted in GD?

Its labelled 'parody' wisely this time, because every other time she is posted here, someone falls for it, believes its real, and posts some reply proving they were duped at post # 23, when 3 other folks upthread did the same thing and it was pointed out as parody



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Response to GusBob (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:51 PM

17. Agree but if the link requires you to pay or sign up

NYT and WP and WSJ

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:27 PM

4. On Bullshit by Harry Frankfurt...nt

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:33 PM

6. Just read the synopsis. This is why I thought this conversation would be fun.

 

I have not read this book and it sounds really interesting.

Sounds like it is also a discussion about Applied Ethics.

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Response to RegularJam (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:40 PM

10. It's not bad, and it's really brief.

You can read it easily in one short session.

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:39 PM

8. The article not just the headline

not that I can cast stones on that topic

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Response to Bucky (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:42 PM

13. Perfect. nt

 

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:39 PM

9. The warranty for a Hamilton Beach toaster

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Response to lame54 (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:41 PM

12. Short read.

 

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This warranty does not cover glass, filters, wear from normal use, use not in conformity with the printed directions, or damage to the product resulting from accident, alteration, abuse, or misuse. This warranty extends only to the original consumer purchaser or gift recipient. Keep the original sales receipt, as proof of purchase is required to make a warranty claim. This warranty is void if the product is used for other than single-family household use or subjected to any voltage and waveform other than as specified on the rating label (e.g., 120V ~ 60 Hz).

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:41 PM

11. I kind of like posts that are over the top.

I enjoy the real nutter ones that get posted on FR.

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:42 PM

14. A high school civics book -

so one has a basic understanding of how the government works. (I was appalled at the number of posts in late 2020/early 2021 made by people who are extremely fuzzy on the most basic underpinnings of the government of this country.)

No specific recommendations - but something on:
* critical thinking, and
* fact checking

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:47 PM

16. I actually think

DUers are much more informed than many other political sites, which is why I keep coming here. That said, some people could benefit from taking a course in civics. Iím not sure of a specific book on civics though. Oh, people should read ďA Peopleís History of the United StatesĒ by Howard Zinn. Very enlightening history book.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 05:04 PM

20. That book is definitely worth one's time.

It's been many years since I read it. There's a much more recent book that was an eye-opener for me: "How to Hide an Empire: A History of the Greater United States," by Daniel Immerwahr. I've been trying to get as many people as I can to give it a try.

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 04:54 PM

18. The United States Constitution and Bill Of Rights

And not only just read them, but actually have an understanding of them!

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Response to Initech (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 05:53 PM

25. I've read both multiple times.

 

To be honest, I only comprehend them fully because Iíve read supplemental.

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 05:47 PM

22. You would still have fervent disagreement.

If you are opposed to the free thought of individuals not as adept as you in proper political discourse, find a site that offers you what you want.

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Response to Firestorm49 (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 05:50 PM

24. Of course you would have fervent disagreement.

 

The body of your post is a fallacy. Made it to 22 posts before a fallacy was deployed.

Didnít think I would see one as a response. Itís just not offensive or fightworth to throw ethics out the window.

Kind of funny.

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Response to Firestorm49 (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 05:54 PM

26. Thank You. nt

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Response to RegularJam (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 05:47 PM

23. How about requiring that people read about the topic they're discussing

Or even simpler, actually read the articles they link to ...

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