photos show the extent of damage in Miami building collapse

[Demovictory9]

this first photo shows how the building pancaked.















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[Lars39]

1. Absolutely horrifying!

Going to be huge casualties.

[barbtries]

2. any news about why it happened?

the pictures remind me of the OKC bombing. smaller scale, but that's devastating.

[Demovictory9]

5. no. someone speculated erosion of building foundation

[PortTack]

7. Saw that too..sink holes, high tide underground erosion

[woodsprite]

16. The situation of erosion and tides was something my son was studying this past semester

in his Marine Studies class. Erosion was the first thing he said when I told him about the collapse.

[Wicked Blue]

18. Climate change. Rising sea levels. nt

[Demovictory9]

24. should nearby buildings be evacuated?

[Wicked Blue]

26. I'm not an engineer

but it might be a good idea, don't you think?

[barbtries]

27. thank you nt

[wackadoo wabbit]

29. I read that the buildiing had been sinking since the 1990s; it was built on reclaimed wetlands /nt

[Solly Mack]

3. Oman. Horrific.

[kentuck]

4. Reminds me of the OKC bombing...

Terrible.

[Demovictory9]

6. yes, it reminds me of OKC also

[bdamomma]

8. I hope

Ron Deathsentence never hears the end about this. Infrastructure package anyone??? Looks like a bomb hit it.

it looks horrible, those poor people.

[drray23]

9. that's going to be the next conspiracy the rwingers parrot

It was an inside job by antifa or maybe the fbi. They bombed the building.

[Zeitghost]

36. Please stop

Politicizing this tragedy is not healthy or good for our side. Congress passing or not passing an infrastructure bill has nothing to do with this and neither does the FL. Governor.

[Faux pas]

10. Yikes!

It looks worse in those photos. Can't see all of on the television machine. All the best vibes being sent to victims and rescuers

I wonder if it was caused by that state's lack of safety regulations? I guessing Florida is a lot like tex-ASS.

[Treefrog]

11. I only hope that many of these people that live there already headed north for the summer.

Many live further north in the summer and Florida in the winter.

[iscooterliberally]

12. I drove right by that building on my way up Collins Avenue yesterday.

This is absolutely horrifying. I don't normally go down that far, but work called and I needed to head down that way.

[forgotmylogin]

22. I used to live in Miami and I was sad to see the daytime shots.

Last night it look like a wall pulled away and fell down, but looking at before and after shots, over 50% of the building is now flat.

[iscooterliberally]

28. I have a bad feeling it's a sink hole.

I watched that security camera video and the building collapsed in the middle first. Those poor people.

[ffr]

13. How lucky are the owners in the other wing still standing?

Million dollar views, now worthless, but you're alive and homeless.

[Sogo]

14. If I lived in any of the other parts of that building,

I would not feel comfortable at all about staying!

[JHB]

17. You wouldn't be given a choice. No doubt it will be torn down.

You'd be lucky for there to be any way to retrieve your belongings, much less stay there.

[Demovictory9]

20. agreed.. it was scary watching first responders walk under the first floor of that building...

[dixiegrrrrl]

25. Looks as if parking was under the building....?

wonder how many cars were lost.

I'd certainly want to drive mine out of there if I had to leave an intact unit.

[Skittles]

30. I would not be comfortable in the SURROUNDING buildings, either

[IcyPeas]

31. I read that Ivanka and Jared live a few blocks away... /nt

[Towlie]

35. That was Champlain Towers South. Champlain Towers East and Champlain Towers North are nearby.

 
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They're to the north on the same side of Collins Avenue and look very similar, so I doubt those residents are very comfortable in their homes either. I'll bet we'll see property values plunge and banks getting stuck with mortgages as owners and tenants run for their lives.

[alotus51]

15. Miami go boom

How long before they blame Obama ?

[PurgedVoter]

19. looking at the exposed damaged areas

I am not seeing as much rebar or steel mesh in the concrete floors as I would expect. I am not seeing much in the way of vertical support. The inspectors need their financial records examined with a fine tooth comb. Concrete doesn't crumble like that if it is properly reinforced.

[Demovictory9]

21. I'm not seeing much rebar either.

[Amishman]

37. post tensioned construction; runs of steel cable under load rather than rebar

The cables are under a ton of tension, which increases the strength of the concrete.

If a cable fails, the strength of the structure is significantly reduced.

[EarnestPutz]

23. Looks like Fallujah after a few barrel bombs. Not to be too flip about this, but let's....

....suggest to our QAnon friends that Hillary's military wing dropped bombs on this Miami apartment building because it was headquarters for the planning of Trump's August inauguration.

[tblue37]

32. What about that other nearby building that collapsed. I have not seen anything about

casualties in that building.

[Demovictory9]

33. it wasn't a nearby building. the same building collapsed in two parts

[onethatcares]

34. it would seem there is no

connection between the building that collapsed and the one that's still standing. If the floors were pre stressed concrete slabs shouldn't they be connected by #5 or better rebar with the floors being staggered by half?

the shear wall on picture 1 shows what I'm asking.

Thanx.

If the floors were poured in place it seems there should have been even more rebar.