****Official Debate Thread #5******

[riderinthestorm]

Into the homestretch now....

Link to #1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021553252

Link to #2 http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1553644


Link to #3 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021554341#top

Link to #4 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021555006

[powergirl]

1. Self Deport time!

[Kolesar]

31. Obama brought up "check your papers"

Which was the Arizona bill that Romney described as " a model law"

[WinkyDink]

2. Please put links in old thread before new one.

[Sparkly]

3. So they can't work (effectively) and can't drive.

Super.

[roody]

4. Is Obama saving Bain

for the next debate?

[Flatpicker]

5. Deport Romney to the Caymans

He'll be closer to his money that way.

[llmart]

6. Using the pejorative term "democrat"

[KewlKat]

7. timer is at zero

[Catherine Vincent]

8. Liar

He won't do a damn thing about immigration, just as Bush. Talk all that tough talk for his republican voters and they believe him. LOL.

[nolabear]

9. Romney's on a roll. Obama needs to stop this,

[cspanlovr]

10. Yea, that's it! Cannon fodder!

[GreenEyedLefty]

11. Lettislation??

Does Rmoney have cotton mouth?

[llmart]

22. I'm pretty sure he's peed in his magic underwear a little bit......

[ladym55]

12. Look at Mittens struggle

immigration

Doesn't like brown people, does he?

[lindysalsagal]

13. This is a non-starter. He's already lost the latino vote, and

is just bucking up his base with dog-whistles.

Obama will use it to be a compassionate human being.

[llmart]

27. That truly is the bottom line.

The President doesn't have to win them over and Mitwit never can.

[Up2Late]

14. Direct Immigration question -Romney "let me step back and answer more broadly

NO! How about you ANSWER THE QUESTION ASKED!!!???!!!

More lies, LIE, LIE, LIIIIIIIIIE!

[Gregorian]

15. Mitt, you teaparty is showing! "Democrat House, and Democrat Senate."

[Up2Late]

19. And he said the President had a "Super Majority"

which is total BS!

[TransitJohn]

16. Obama needs to land another 2 or 3 punch combo like he started with.

My scorecard's in his favor, but we need a finishing move to get the 'reportage' to reflect the reality.

[RoccoR5955]

17. My score

Romney -12 Obama 7

[WinkyDink]

23. You mean "Obama 7, Romney -12"? Winner first. :-)

[LittleBlue]

18. Who is winning the CNN meter? I'm watching a stream

Objective observations please.

Thank you

[Up2Late]

35. Looks like they are keeping a clock on speaking time and a graph of Men and women

Both those me nothing that i understand.

[tarheelsunc]

49. Sky-high when Obama speaks, in the middle when Romney speaks

[Nevernose]

20. Tomorrow Faux will claim Obama just yelled "Viva la Raza!"

For his allocated two minutes.

[RoccoR5955]

21. Okay, I have to give Romney a point

for his immigration. That one did have some details in it.

Score
Romney -11 Obama 7

[renate]

28. I think he just lost that point when Obama reminded us Romney would repeal the DREAM Act

[KewlKat]

24. how many minorities are represented tonight? Anyone have a guess?

[llmart]

50. 1%

[RoccoR5955]

55. Not enough

And this area in LI is pretty conservative.

[kalli007]

25. This is FREAKING AWESOME

In the words of Bill Maher- the black ninja returns.

[Rob H.]

26. Calling Romney out on his promise to undo the Dream Act

Good!

[uponit7771]

29. CANDY TAKE CONTROL!!!!!!!!!

[hue]

30. The President needs to go on the offensive!!!

[uponit7771]

45. He's done pretty good so far

[OldDem2012]

56. +1000!! Thank you!! nt.

[lindysalsagal]

32. "Undocumented" better than "illegal." "Pathway" better than "amnesty."

Don't go after students.

"We can fix the system in a comprehensive way."

Which holds water because he's reformed wall st and healthcare in a comprehensive way.

[nolabear]

33. Good job. Take the GOP obstructionism to Romney.

[KewlKat]

34. so romney can correct things but the press can't'.....FAIL CROWLEY

[highplainsdem]

36. Romney being extremely rude to Candy Crowley again.

[WinkyDink]

44. She's loving his 50 shades of lies. You heard her laugh before.

[WinkyDink]

37. Why is Romney allowed to speak again? And why is CC allowing him TO JUST SAY NO TO HER?!

[llmart]

38. He's such a dick.

telling Candy "No."

[bullwinkle428]

39. Fuck you, Dancing Mittens!

[RoccoR5955]

40. Romney flips again.

minus one

Obama 8 Romney -12

[riderinthestorm]

41. Women need flexible schedules to fix dinners!! Anyone else hear that?! nt

[treestar]

42. Let's see if asshole is going to claim he did not want self-deportation

[Taverner]

43. Wow....

Obama knocks that one out of the park!

[ladym55]

46. Robme is rude

And obnoxious and mean-spirited. But we know that already.

[nolabear]

47. "I was not the standard bearer." Yah.

[lindysalsagal]

48. Being uselessly defensive. Not landing punches. Using "self-deportation." Fool.

[SaveAmerica]

51. He is an egomaniac who can't speak English clearly, is that a prereq to be a Republican

[KewlKat]

52. candy hold on

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. so far Obama is ahead

and Romney did not answer the question

[superpatriotman]

54. Spinning like a dervish

Candy needs to take control

[Kolesar]

76. Romney is rambling and Obama is so damn articulate! eom

[WinkyDink]

57. Oh, so Obama isn't allowed to interrupt?! CROWLEY IS LETTING ROMNEY RUN ROUGH-SHOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rob H.]

58. Romney repeating the blind trust lie and going off-topic and over his time

AGAIN.

[KewlKat]

59. sensata

[janx]

74. YEP. n/t

[nolabear]

60. OOOOHHHH the blind trust!

[uponit7771]

61. BOOOOOM!!!!

[Politicub]

62. The questioner does not look pleased

[fishwax]

63. Romney bullying Obama about his pension

Yeah, you're going to win that argument, Mittens

[RoccoR5955]

64. Obama interrupts -1

Score
Obama 7 Romney -12

[WinkyDink]

75. WTH do you mean, -1 for Obama? Is he supposed to let Romney DOMINATE?!

[Flatpicker]

80. Only because

Mitt was going to go back to China. You could see he was needing to close that disc.

[WinkyDink]

108. Really? Like a pension plan's investment is the same as owning the damn company?

[Flatpicker]

129. Were in agreement on this.

Those aren't apples to apples.

[WinkyDink]

173. Well, my rage at Romney isn't good for my logic. :-)

[Javaman]

126. wrong spot. nt

[Flatpicker]

65. Blind Trust

Let's use his own words against him.

Shall we....

[tarheelsunc]

66. Burn in hell, Romney.

[llmart]

67. Sit down you jerk!

Thank you Candy, for telling him to sit down.

[hue]

68. Rmoney STFU!! Go get him Pres Obama!!!!

[abelenkpe]

69. Did president point out that cutting capital gains and dividends

Lowers taxes on the super wealthy....y'know the ones Romney wants me to think he won't cut taxes on?


Please?

Had to take kids to swim so any info appreciated....

[RoccoR5955]

70. Romney bullying -1 point

Score
Romney -13 Obama 7

[bullwinkle428]

71. YES!! Nailing Robot's adviser as the AZ Immig. law writer!!

[Up2Late]

72. Mitt breaking the Rules again!

moderator is helping him/letting him.

[nolabear]

73. Americe, seriously. Would you want this creep as your president?

[ladym55]

77. I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS

I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT OBNOXIOUS JERK IS STANDING THERE TELLING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO SHUT UP. WHAT AN A$$HAT!

[Indpndnt]

78. Lol! Laughing at Willard's lies!

Obama stepping up and kicking Willard's latest policies all around the stage.

[high density]

79. Romney's "I'm shitting myself" look when he is sitting on the stool is hilarious

[Catherine Vincent]

81. Did Crowley just tell Romney to sit his ass down?

[theKed]

82. Where the fuck did that foreign investment

stab from Romney come from?
He must've really prepped that "take a look at your pension" bit and needed to stick it in, even where it made no sense.

[AlinPA]

83. That thing about Obama's pension and Romney and China will get a lot of coverage.

[pa28]

84. So now he gets to make a rebuttal and then start his time from zero.

Jesus.

[crispini]

85. GOBAMA

[kerouac2]

86. what would happen if the they brawled live on tv and O beat the snit outta mit?

who would get the bounce?

[Gregorian]

87. Tell it, Obama! That Arizona law will not help this country grow. YEAH! Zingers!

[uponit7771]

88. Obama is in a groove now

[rocktivity]

89. How were these town hallers picked, I wonder?

rocktivity

[JNelson6563]

90. Rmoney jumps to different topic

on the end of his non-answer about immigration.

Julie

[KewlKat]

91. lybia

[high density]

92. oh by, Romney plant talking about minutia.

[Liberal In Texas]

93. Ohhhh, here come the Lybia thing...

[WinkyDink]

94. Oh, so Crowley STOPS OBAMA FROM ANSWERING, BUT LETS ROMNEY TALK ON?!

Anyone who praises Crowley after this is, IMO, seriously mistaken.

[uponit7771]

99. Yeap, leher did similar...Obama has to play the ref

[bullwinkle428]

95. Well, you KNEW Libya was coming.

[nolabear]

96. Libya. This should be interesting. I think Obama's been waiting for this.

[Up2Late]

97. Looks like CNN has a 10 second delay going

Wonder why.

[Honeycombe8]

98. LIBYA!!! I'm sure O's ready on this one.

[theKed]

100. Lol bullshit

"My friends and I were just sitting around, talking about Libya"

[ecstatic]

101. What trust is Robme talking about?? nt

[Catherine Vincent]

102. Romney should ask the American people about their pensions

[WinkyDink]

103. Two questions (at least) were "I'm not happy with your first term." NOW there's "WTH happened in

Benghazi?"

Why isn't Romney being drilled on his plans like this? Or HIS term as Governor?

[high density]

115. Well there was a "how are you not Bush" question

[nolabear]

104. Ah. The press release! Hit him HARD Mr. President.

[NYC Liberal]

105. Obama calling out Romney on the Libya press conference!

"That's not how a commander in chief acts"!

[mvd]

113. Great answer!

Haven't been able to watch, but sounds like the President is doing a wonderful job. Now I can relax.

[meow2u3]

106. PBO: When it comes to national security, I mean what I say nt

[Honeycombe8]

107. You don't turn Nat'l Sec into a political, esp right when it's happening! (about R's Libya conf.)

[Bobbie Jo]

111. Bam.

[uponit7771]

109. Great, take away the hammer on this issue

[Honeycombe8]

110. R is pointing out that O is right..buck stops at HIS desk. How nice of R.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

114. Pension? What's a pension. So out of touch, it's fucking unreal.

[msanthrope]

119. Trying to pick the corpse, Mitt???? nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

112. Romey's GOP cut the resources

[Digit]

116. One thing is clear, romney thinks rules don't apply to him...not following format of debate

entitled mfer

[WinkyDink]

131. Just like laws. He just blatantly said "NO" to Crowley, who deserved it. He took her measure early.

[WinkyDink]

117. There were TWELVE attacks on our embassies/consulates in Dubya's years. TWELVE.

[nolabear]

118. Oh for fuck's sake. The fundraiser crap?

[ecstatic]

120. Wow. Really? Cut him off PO! nt

[fishwax]

121. What an asshole. Essentially saying that Obama's campaigning has put the national security at risk.

[spooky3]

122. CNN viewers are flat-lining R on Libya.

[sfpcjock]

123. Sounds like the questioner's "brain trust" didn't know that security was denied

for an embassy in Tripoli, not an outpost in Benghazi, LoL

[OldDem2012]

139. The questioner knew...he was hoping no one else did. Oops! nt.

[Politicub]

124. Romney comes across as an emotionally abusive husband

Maybe physically abusive.

[spooky3]

136. he's a pig

[WinkyDink]

147. Too bad I can't summon up sympathy for Ann-toinette.

[Barack_America]

171. You know, I have to agree.

He creeps me out like those socially awkward people that you know could just snap and become aggressive. Raises your hackles and a little voice tells you "look out". A sociopath.

[Politicub]

181. I think there's something deeper that drives his bullying personality

I started an OP discussion about it.

[Honeycombe8]

125. Libya...Syria..Egypt...Iran...Israel. Romney knows a lot of country's names. More than Palin did.

[Johonny]

153. He has more houses and thus can see more countries

[high density]

127. Apology tour that killed bin Laden and ended the war in Iraq.

[Hayabusa]

128. More Republican warmongering it seems...

Why don't they just go ahead and hire their own armies, go off to some third-world country and just raise hell. You know that's what they want to do.

[Rob H.]

130. Romney repeating the apology tour lie again, too

Obama needs to land on Romney like a sumo wrestler on that one.

[Javaman]

132. another classic mittens word salad. nt

[Up2Late]

133. And Mitt goes back to RW Talking points

Such BS!

[nolabear]

134. Wonderful opportunity for Obama to back Clinton, be solid and responsible.

[Honeycombe8]

135. I'm the President. I'm always responsible. Hillary Clinton works for me. Point.

[spooky3]

143. Excellent statement about "playing politics when 4 people died" -- CNN viewers liked it

[spooky3]

154. Go Candy - for affirming that the Pres. said it was terrorist act the next day

[spooky3]

166. good AK 47 question

[KewlKat]

137. mit is offensive......

[nolabear]

138. OFFENSIVE. Damn right!

[Honeycombe8]

140. Obama is doing pretty well on the Libya issue. O just chewed out R.

[Javaman]

141. Obama just got really pissed. nt

[trailmonkee]

142. fuck ya!

[Gregorian]

144. Uh on, there's an adult in the room. Obama spanks Rmoney over his offensive blabbing.

[fishwax]

145. Obama was pissed. But controlled. And forceful.

[crispini]

146. SCORE OBAMA!

[Rob H.]

148. Obama slapping Romney around over Romney's Libya comments

Stern and forceful. Good.

"Can you say that a little louder, Candy?" LOL.

[cabot]

174. And then Candy had to backtrack to placate

The magical underwear wearing fraud. ugh.

[ecstatic]

149. The crowd cheers. Romney shut the @$R@E

you're done.

[RoccoR5955]

150. More Romney lies

Score Romney -14 Obama 8

[NYC Liberal]

151. "He did say it was an act of terror" "Say that a little louder Candy!" HUGE applause

[Catherine Vincent]

152. Tell him prez!

Romney is being offensive.

[Javaman]

155. mittens sputters. nt

[Catherine Vincent]

172. He was sputterng and stuttering. LOL.

[nolabear]

156. BWAHAHAHA!!! "Can you say it a little louder Candy?"

[Honeycombe8]

157. Candy backs up Obama that O said it was an act of terror the day after Libya happened. Is that good?

[high density]

158. Crowley doesn't want to go down as a total ass like Lehrer.

[theKed]

159. Romney Faceplant

Schooled by the moderator, says Obama called it an act of terror the day after.

[ladym55]

160. What a condescending jerk

I hope someone got on film the look Robme just gave the President of the United States.

[Hepburn]

161. Shit, Candy is correcting Romney!

[Gregorian]

162. Dig that hole Rmoney! DIG IT DEEPER

[EmeraldCityGrl]

163. Applause...wow

[janx]

164. President Obama now has this locked.

Mitt lost it. It's over.

[Flatpicker]

165. Yes Mitt, you are incorrect in this detail

Like most details.

[WinkyDink]

167. Another "You've failed us, Mr. President" question---approved by Crowley.

[high density]

168. oh jesus, gun control

Please don't go there. Nothing good comes fro mit.

[WinkyDink]

178. GC is never a winner for Democrats.

[riderinthestorm]

169. Please go to Official Debate thread #6!!! Link added

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021555889

[lavenderdiva]

175. this link goes to thread #5

please correct the link

[tiny elvis]

170. romney stumbles and fumbles the ball

applause

[TampaKeeper]

176. "Sitting around playing cards talking about LIBYA???"

Does anybody else think that guy was a plant?

[LittleBlue]

177. Wow, Obama is doing well. I don't see how he can do worse than a draw

at this point absent a major screw up.

[crispini]

179. Wow. This gun violence answer is a calm, well-balanced answer. He sounds so good! nt

[Honeycombe8]

180. Assault weapons. I don't think O ans. the question? Ok by me.

[riderinthestorm]

182. Please go to Official Debate thread #6!!! Its nearing the end but please switch over

for our dialup friends....

[Honeycombe8]

183. Crowley doing a good job, IMO. Her hair looks good, too. (just threw that in. She spent time on it.)

[Bobbie Jo]

184. WTF is he babbling about?

[janx]

185. Fast and furious...LOL

Tea party material!

[alarimer]

186. Knock up your high school girlfriend and get married because that solves everything!

Now with the bullshit Fast and Furious talking points.

[llmart]

187. What the hell is he talking about?

I'm sorry he's lost me on his convoluted automatic weapons answer.

[sfpcjock]

188. How could you let your kid have an AK, moms and dads, LoL

[llmart]

189. Way to go Candy....

get him back to the question.

[llmart]

191. Why did you change your mind???

Good one.

[Greybnk48]

190. fast and furious...word salad...blah blah blah!

He's babbling.

[Up2Late]

193. NO kidding.

[DFab420]

194. Don't Sleep on Barry O.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vlxkcewBEe0#t=59s

[Up2Late]

195. New thread? #6

?????