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Is there a difference between "critical race theory" and "systemic racism?" (Original Post) LAS14 Jun 2021 OP
Systemic racism exists. CRT explains how and why. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #1
CRT explains it or does it prove it? Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #3
Theories explain and interpret. Proofs prove. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #4
Hmmm...if this has been in the hands of Civil Rights lawyers, I'm guessing they're Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #7
Proof in a court of law is different than the modern scientific definition of "theory." WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #8
"Proof" carries more weight than "theory." Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #9
It's been proven over and over and over again StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #12
I agree with you. Which is really ironic because the Republicans are Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #13
The academics don't need to do anything StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #14
I would say, where it comes to systemic racism, about 40% of the American population Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #15
Well zipplewrath Jun 2021 #2
Yes. ismnotwasm Jun 2021 #5
CRT attempts to explain why we have Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #6
I like to think of CRT as a way of looking at things. Phoenix61 Jun 2021 #10
I think, critical race theory is the name given to the study of why we have systemic racism. ShazamIam Jun 2021 #11

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,436 posts)
1. Systemic racism exists. CRT explains how and why.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 08:18 PM
Jun 2021

That's a super basic version of the difference. CRT originally was used on the legal system.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
3. CRT explains it or does it prove it?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 08:48 PM
Jun 2021

Since it began in the law, I'm guessing there are case studies to prove that systemic racism exists. And that's why Republicans want to put it down before it gets traction in the public.

Easy enough to beat them, by showing that evidence in the form of a documentary.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
7. Hmmm...if this has been in the hands of Civil Rights lawyers, I'm guessing they're
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jun 2021

being modest. I'm sure, if push comes to shove, they could lay out those case studies in a way that could establish proof.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
13. I agree with you. Which is really ironic because the Republicans are
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:18 PM
Jun 2021

barking up the wrong tree. Here they're having conniptions over a "theory" when systemic racism is a fact in some circles. The more the Republicans complain, the more they're going to push the academics to step up and make that point clear.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. The academics don't need to do anything
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 12:00 AM
Jun 2021

That point is made clear every day to anyone whose head's not up their butt.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
15. I would say, where it comes to systemic racism, about 40% of the American population
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 08:32 AM
Jun 2021

has their head up their butt. And then, there's another 20% who don't think it's the top five priorities in their lives. So it's up to the other 40% to push back to convince those 20%, that it is.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. Well
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 08:19 PM
Jun 2021

Yes, in the sense that one is intended to explain PORTIONS of the other. I don't think CRT was intended to be exhaustive in its description of the phenomenon. Quite honestly, CRT was intended to explain the ORIGINS of systemic racism, not necessarily its full consequence.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
10. I like to think of CRT as a way of looking at things.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:59 PM
Jun 2021

Like looking at light as both a particle and a wave.

ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
11. I think, critical race theory is the name given to the study of why we have systemic racism.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jun 2021

Some scholars were looking into systemic racism and the causes and social and economic and educational results.

That is a condensation of what I have read around some of the reputable sites.
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