How Concerned Are You About the COVID DELTA VARIANT!!

[DTRV]

How concerned are you about the proliferation of the COVID delta variant leading to a surge in the late fall or early winter which may result in placing back restrictions or even a lock down in many states? Will the reality of this variant convince those skeptical about vaccination to get vaccinated? I am still optimistic that we will get back to normal back in the winter but I am increasingly thinking that this is just wishful thinking.


Just in case you need some relevant information about the COVID DELTA VARIANT here is some relevant information:


The Covid Delta variant has been identified in at least 37 states. Many experts believe this variant will supersede the original COVID variant in the United States within a few weeks. The unvaccinated carry a substantially greater risk for sickness and death if infected with this variant but the longer this variant survives and spreads among mostly the unvaccinated the greater chance that it will eventually succeed in infecting the vaccinated.

[In_The_Wind]

1. My grandchildren are too young to be vaccinated. We are worried about them.

[spinbaby]

81. My grandson is being enrolled in a study

He’s eight and may or may not get an actual covid vaccine, but his mother thinks it’s worth it if he might get vaccinated a little earlier.

[In_The_Wind]

96. Thanks for that thought.

[former9thward]

2. Not at all concerned.

The vaccine is effective against the variant. Yes, this study is not peer reviewed yet -- there has been no time for any study to be peer reviewed, but I am accepting the science until there is something radically different.

A recent analysis from PHE looks at how likely people who had an infection with the delta variant were to need treatment in the hospital.

The report puts the protection from requiring hospital treatment for COVID-19 at 71% after one dose and at 92% after two doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. The Pfizer vaccine was 94% effective at preventing hospitalization after the first dose and 96% after two doses.

In India, the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine bears the name Covishield.

The report, which has not been peer-reviewed yet, puts these percentages on a par with protection against the alpha variant, or B.1.1.7, which scientists first identified in the U.K.

“These findings indicate very high levels of protection against hospitalization with the delta variant with one or two doses of either vaccine,” the authors write.


https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-which-vaccines-are-effective-against-the-delta-variant#Very-high-levels-of-protection-against-hospitalization

[HUAJIAO]

11. The DELTA PLUS is yet another variant from the DELTA variant.. and appears to be

even more contagious.

That is the one that, at the moment, has me the most concerned.

[former9thward]

32. I would like someone to show me where vaccinated people

are being hospitalized and dying from this variant. I don't go living my life in fear.

[totodeinhere]

37. The fear is, as the OP pointed out, that if left unchecked this new varient may

mutate and become threatening even to people who have been fully vaccinated.

[DenaliDemocrat]

59. That's not going to happen

This virus is not like influenza. The receptor binding area is very small. It can only mutate so much before it mutated outside it’s ability to infect. The vaccines were based upon this small area for that reason. Even though the mutations do show a decrease in neutralizing antibodies, there are still plenty to confer protection. There will not be a mutation that completely escapes the vaccine.

[totodeinhere]

102. You are wrong.

While health experts agree full vaccination offers protection against some variants of Covid-19, Wen added that it's unknown whether a variant resistant to vaccines will emerge.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/21/us/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

[DenaliDemocrat]

129. Read and learn

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-637724/v1


“ Whilst severe disease in fully vaccinated HCW was rare, breakthrough transmission clusters in hospitals associated with the Delta variant are concerning and indicate that infection control measures need continue in the post-vaccination era.”

[Thtwudbeme]

38. Check out the news from Israel

And the long term effects are what you need to be worrying about.

Living in fear? How is putting a small piece of cloth over your nose and mouth "living in fear?" Ummm it's not like you are in a war zone or anything. Quit being hyperbolic.

[former9thward]

74. If you want to wear a mask who is stopping you?

Not me. I am following what President Biden said "If you are vaccinated take off your mask and smile". A lot of people don't want to smile for some reason. I subscribe to the Jerusalem Post so I am aware of Israeli events. They are not overly concerned.

[Thtwudbeme]

76. oh- yeah. I guess going on lockdown again is not

"overly concerned."

[former9thward]

87. They are NOT on lockdown.

A mask requirement for indoors was just put in place.

[Thtwudbeme]

97. Oh good! So, you are now wearing a mask

indoors?

Thank you for your help- Will you be following these protocols?

[former9thward]

107. Why would you think I am in Israel?

[former9thward]

124. You will have to find someone else to play with.

Good luck...

[Thtwudbeme]

126. See- the thing is- is I am not "playing"

If you aren't masking- and you see someone masked in public- you need to maintain your distance.

This is my life now- keep away from me and my family if you aren't taking this seriously. I don't give a flying rats ass about your "opinion."

[LisaL]

77. WHO says you should wear mask regardless.

But obviously nobody can't make you.
I am wearing mine in public.

[former9thward]

84. I go by President Biden

[BannonsLiver]

118. We have a few posters invested in the pandemic going on for a long time

Either because they’ve developed Stockholm Syndrome, don’t want to go back to the office, liked the ready made excuse not to socialize (I’m guilty of that one), or hope it kills off a bunch of trump types.

There’s literally no middle ground between “im not worried about it” and “oh my god I’m shitting my pants.”

[HUAJIAO]

78. Are you implying that I am living my life in fear?

[former9thward]

88. No implying anything about you since I don't know you.

I said I don't do that.

[HUAJIAO]

93. Neither am I. Just using my brain.

[former9thward]

94. So am I.

I guess we agree on something.

[Skittles]

131. try to think about the global population as a whole and not just the vaccinated

that might help

[muriel_volestrangler]

137. Yes, in the UK fully-vaccinated over-50s have died from the delta variant, but not under-50s

No fully-vaccinated person under 50 has died from delta variant
More than three-quarters of Covid hospital admissions in age group have been among unvaccinated people

...
As of June 21, there have been 117 deaths in England of people confirmed as having the delta variant and who died within 28 days of a positive test.

The figures show that only eight deaths occurred in the under-50s, and none in those who had been fully vaccinated, with six of people who had not been vaccinated at all.

More than three-quarters – 78 per cent – of admissions in the under-50s were among unvaccinated people, and just three per cent were fully vaccinated.

Of the 109 deaths that occurred in the over-50s, 50 had been fully vaccinated, but experts said the vast majority of the over-50s had now had two jabs, so the numbers of older fully vaccinated people dying was expected to rise.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/25/no-fully-vaccinated-under-50-has-died-delta-variant/

So it is a risk for some people.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

90. Here's what I don't understand FNW. I've been talking to my sister-in-law

who has been leading drug trials for many years including years with Merck.

She explained to me how it worked for alpha covid. There are two groups. The trial study she read had 40,000 participants. 20,000 got the placebo and 20,000 got the vaccine. Then they closely monitor all these people and they determine who in the vaccinated group got covid then extrapolate the percentage of efficacy. Then it is locked down. For instance Pfizer I believe was 95% effective against alpha covid. But I don't get it and I never bugged her anymore is you would think that would change. Like if the day after lockdown 10 people get covid who are vaccinated it would drive down the efficacy.

With regard to Delta, I may be wrong but as far as I know there was never a controlled drug trial for that. Because it didn't even exist.

So my guess is, as a layman that people are gathering data on covid infections. They are using the numbers that are given as to which are delta. The problem with that is that I read in the Tribune that in Texas the private Labs aren't even sequencing genomes for Delta and are calling most all plain old covid. This is due to the fact that it cost $100 more to do the sequence and it takes more time.

Because there was no drug trial against Delta, people all over are massaging data. Just a couple days ago someone posted here that efficacy was 89% vaccinated versus delta. Then they said that that had precipitously dropped to 79% in a very short time. I may be way off base, but because there was no trial it strikes me that you're going to have a floating efficacy. And it will be going down as the virus spreads. I just can't understand why or how prevalence isn't an important factor in it.

Just a layman trying to apply standard logic. Welcome correction from anybody who really knows what's going on.

I think it's high time for CDC and the president to issue some guidance on this. I mean hell, it was the exact thing we criticize the hell out of dipshit for.

[Blue_true]

111. The 79% and 89% were reported from two different studies.

Last edited Fri Jun 25, 2021, 11:21 PM - Edit history (2)

I finally tracked that down. I noticed the same problem with that particular post.

What happened was a study was done in Scotland and it showed that the one mRNA (Pfizer) was 79% effective in preventing Delta Covid infection. A larger study was done by the British National Health Service and it showed the Pfizer vaccine to be 89% effective at preventing infection. Both studies showed that even though there was a chance of a vaccinated person getting infected, the cases were mild (as opposed to hospitalization and death).

A person did point out here on DU that an elderly person who was got vaccinated caught COVID19 and died. But no information was given on which vaccine the person got or on whether he got exposed before vaccine immunity kicked in.

Update: I found an article on the elderly man that died. He was severely immune compromised because of a specific cancer, so his body generated no immune response to the vaccine. He went out to a casual dinner inside a restaurant with some friends after being vaccinated, one of those people later tested positive for COVID19.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

136. Thanks! Still think it's all about the data used and the

timing. And since it was not part of drug trial then it's a moving target? Do you?

[marie999]

100. So you are not concerned for anyone you love that can't get vaccinated?

[former9thward]

108. No one I love is in that position.

The CDC rejects that viewpoint.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/underlying-conditions.html?s_cid=10485:who%20should%20not%20get%20the%20covid%20vaccine:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen TN:FY21

[zuul]

3. Very.

I got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine because I knew I was going to need dental surgery and that’s all I could get at the time.

No researchers ever mention the efficacy of J&J against the Delta variant. They only talk about Pfizer and Moderna. I won’t feel safe until booster shots are available.

[Meowmee]

101. I believe you can get the pfizer or moderna as well

Ask your doc.

[Nevilledog]

4. Very. And now there's a Delta Plus variant

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/25/health/delta-plus-variant-explainer-intl-hnk-scn/index.html

[aeromanKC]

5. Moderately

I am vaccinated but with heart issues. AND I live in a MAGAt state where majority are unvaccinated. 37% is the figure I saw last week but I think that is not correct. Seems a bit low even for MAGAtville Missouri. But overall, I am moderately concerned.

[regnaD kciN]

6. Personally, I'm SOMEWHAT CONCERNED!!

[forgotmylogin]

23. Same here.

I'm Pfizer-vaccinated, and continue to wear masks in public spaces with anyone I don't know.

[Phoenix61]

7. Personally, not at all but concerned for those who can't get vaxed. nt

[PA_jen]

8. Before my Dad's death very worried with my fully Vaccinated Dad passing Extremely!

[onecaliberal]

16. Hugs.

[SheltieLover]

17. +1,000!

[Quakerfriend]

9. I am worried that it may cause a lot more breakthrough cases.

We are being told that we are mostly safe if we are fully vaccinated.
However a post by DUer Ohiochick really jumped out at me.
Having two children who are MDs she said one son had 8 young, fully vaccinated patients who came in with COVID last week. All were incubated and all eventually died.
- Don’t know if they had delta variant or not. 😟

[HUAJIAO]

13. intubated...

[Quakerfriend]

40. Oopsy! Cluck cluck 🐣🐣

[HUAJIAO]

82. LOL

[SheltieLover]

18. Yup!

She'd shared that with me, too.

Why isn't media reporting to encourage masking & soc distancing in fully vaxed???

To try to hold out hope covidiots will get the vaxes?

[SheltieLover]

19. Google "Quartz pfier delta breakthrough"

Terrifying!

[SoonerPride]

41. No, don't Google that. Follow the CDC and science, not fucking Google.

Follow the science.

If you have been vaccinated with an MRNA vaccine, the Delta variant is of no concern to you.

You have a slim chance of catching Covid Delta, and an even slimmer chance of being hospitalized with it.

Go live your life.

[Quakerfriend]

43. Thanks SL! I will. N/T

[SheltieLover]

45. I'm only advocating for an abundance of caution

I'm fully vaxed & advocate for others to get vaxed.

[LisaL]

10. Very concerned.

Israel is going to have a mask mandate again because of delta they got from abroad. UK's cases are going right back up because of delta.
Our CDC in it's ultimate wisdom decided we don't need masks anymore. Well, now delta is spreading here. Next wave might be pretty soon and not in the fall.

[totodeinhere]

34. The CDC did not say that.

They said that fully vaccinated people do not need masks in some situations. And that advice is based on science. They did not say that the unvaccinated should go maskless.

[LisaL]

47. Except nobody checks vaccination status, so everybody goes maskless.

NT

[HUAJIAO]

86. Pretty much BINGO !!!

Now, somebody will get back and say, "I see people masked."

Blah blah blah.. But you are absolutely right..

[totodeinhere]

104. But that's not what you said.

You specifically said "Our CDC in it's ultimate wisdom decided we don't need masks anymore." And that 's not true. They did not say that. They said fully vaccinated people don't need masks in certain situations. They did not say "we" don't need masks any more.

[LisaL]

140. Yea, they said fully vaccinated people don't need masks.

But nobody checks vaccination status, so in reality it turned into "nobody needs masks." If I see everybody unmasked, and only under 50% of people are vaccinated, then something ain't right, because 50 % of people should be wearing masks. No social distancing, no masks, everybody is acting as if everything is back to normal. Just when delta is starting to spread.
Israel just found out you can't be back to normal. Mask mandates are being reinstated there.
I don't think delta is waiting until fall either.
It's spreading quickly in UK right now, during summer.

[marble falls]

12. Not much. CDC and the Biden/Harris admisistration is paying attention. We still stay away from ...

... restaurants, grocery only when necessary, wear masks and don't crowd RWers.

[helpisontheway]

14. Very! My son's fianc just tested positive yesterday.

She was fully vaccinated (Moderna). We just found out a few minutes ago that my son is negative. So glad he is okay but still concerned because he lives with her. We were also concerned because we hung out with him unmasked for the first time (since the pandemic began) last weekend.

[SheltieLover]

21. Delta?

[helpisontheway]

58. We are not sure if it is Delta. I'm wondering if it is.I read that

there are 40-something confirmed cases of Delta in Virginia. The actual number is probably higher. And they said it is more transmissible so there might be a chance.

[SheltieLover]

60. Scary stuff!

Healing vibes on the way! 💓💓💓

[helpisontheway]

66. Thank you! Nt

[SheltieLover]

67. Yw!

[BannonsLiver]

114. Good grief. How on earth would someone ever know if it was the Delta variant

24 hours after a positive test?

[SheltieLover]

115. Not sure about testing time

I've been 😷 &

[BannonsLiver]

116. It says they got their results 24 hours ago

Is there some kind of home sequencing kit available now?

[LisaL]

24. Was gf there when you hang out?

NT

[helpisontheway]

61. No..she was not here. He said she started having symptoms

that she thought was a cold a few days ago. She also has sinus pressure and shortness of breath. He said she started coughing today.

[LisaL]

69. Then you are probably ok, since he is still testing negative and she wasn't there.

NT

[totodeinhere]

31. I understand your concern, but since she is fully vaccinated she will almst certainly

have a very mild case. And she will probably be much less infectious.

[lagomorph777]

53. Same is true for him, if he's vaxxed.

If he's not, he'd better get it done.

[helpisontheway]

65. He is fully vaccinated. Thanks.nt

[helpisontheway]

63. Ok thanks.nt

[unblock]

15. I am Susan Collins concerned!

/jk


Actually, concerned for me isn't quite the right word. It connotes some degree of uncertainty, and I think it's inevitable that delta and/or other more virulent variants will overtake the current strains and lead to yet another surge in cases.

I'm not happy about it at all, but it is what it is. We have a lot of smart people and sensible people in this country but we also have far too many evil and willingly stupid people to properly address an ongoing pandemic.

[Hugin]

25. A sound and concise statement...

With which, I for one, fully agree.

[liberal_mama]

20. I'm very concerned of what could happen in Fall with these variants

Where I live in New York State, the rates of new infections are very low, 4 or 5 cases a day now, when we used to have some of the highest numbers in the state. However, with the amount of covidiots in my area, I'm still masking up anytime I'm indoors. I have an uneasy feeling about the Delta variant.

[SoonerPride]

22. Personally, I have zero concerns about it. I have been vaccinated.

Those unvaccinated need to fucking worry about it or get vaxxed.

At this point, Darwin.

Indeed, the "good news," Fauci said, is that "all vaccines are effective against the the delta variant."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/delta-variant-greatest-threat-eliminating-covid-u-s-fauci-says-n1271933

[LovingA2andMI]

27. In Reverse?

Darwin, that is.

[SoonerPride]

35. Unvaxxed people are eligible for the Darwin Award.

Unvaxxed adults are making a choice.

Children who can't get vaccinated are not threatened by the Delta Variant.

[LovingA2andMI]

99. WOW!

Pearled Sacrifices? We are going to regress from here.

[totodeinhere]

30. You are very misguided I am afraid.

As long as there is a large pool of unvaccinated people there stands a risk that a new variant may emerge which is immune to the current vaccines. And if that happens all of us who are fully vaccinated will be at risk again.

[SoonerPride]

36. I can't worry about potential variants. The question was do I worry about the Delta variant.

That answer is no. I am not worried about Delta variant.

If something comes along then I will worry about that then.

[ProfessorGAC]

44. What If The Next Variant Is Less Pernicious?

All mutations do not result in more contagiousness or virulence.
I'm not predicting either way, but worrying about the next variant before it happens, when current data show the vaccine being nearly equally efficacious against all the known variants is less prudence, than naked fear.

[LisaL]

49. Lots of variants are being formed.

Most efficient ones survive.
So next variant is going to be worse. It's survival of the fittest.

[SoonerPride]

54. And until a variant is proven able to defeat the MRNA vaccine, who the fuck cares?

The unvaccinated people will be the ones who contract it.

So far there is zero evidence of any variant arising that is any concern to MRNA vaccine recipients.

ZERO.

If that changes, get back to me.

[LisaL]

57. Half of people infected with delta in Israel are vaccinated.

So, right back at you.

[SoonerPride]

62. Despite the new outbreak, death rate is near ZERO

So what are you concerned about again?

Facts are stubborn things.

FACTS:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/world/middleeast/israel-covid-delta-variant.html

Despite the new outbreak, the country’s current death rate remains close to zero, and only 26 of 729 active coronavirus patients were hospitalized, according to data released by the Health Ministry. And the overall daily caseload remains far from the country’s peak in mid-January, when the average hit more than 8,000 daily cases.

Stop living in fear.

Vaxxed people have no reason to fear the Delta variant.

[LisaL]

64. Maybe you didn't notice, but deaths lag behind infections.

Give it a little time.

[SoonerPride]

68. 26 out of 729 pople were even hospitalized.

The vaccine is 95% effective.

Nothing in life is 100%.

But with a 5% chance of contracting the virus and an even slimmer chance of it making me sick enough to need hospitalization, I see no factual reason to worry.

I am more likely to be hit by lightning.

Really.

[LisaL]

71. Oh for crying out loud.

If half of those infected had been vaccinated, then no way the vaccine is 95 % effective against delta.
If you can't figure out this simple math, not much else to argue about.

[SoonerPride]

72. Bless your heart

that's not how numbers work, dear.

Have a nice weekend.

[ProfessorGAC]

79. Reading For Comprehension Is A Skill

Read what I actually asked then make a comment that connects with.
Viral evolution does not address my question.

[LisaL]

83. If they bind better to ace receptors (which is what makes them more infectious),

then it stands to reason they will be more deadly.

[SoonerPride]

52. Thank you for being the voice of reason.

Sure a meteor might crash into earth and wipe us all out.

An Omega variant of Covid may arise.

I can't worry about what MAY happen.

If you are vaccinated the Delta variant is no threat to you. Really.

Go live your life.

[BannonsLiver]

135. You and GAC have both been fantastic on this issue

I’ve read all your responses in this thread and others. I’m still masking in public spaces that are indoors and have avoided crowded spaces. To me that’s appropriate. I don’t need to read a bunch of posts from pants shitting would be infectious disease experts to understand the situation. Plus I get the creepy feeling some here really want it to blow up again which is just deeply twisted.

[redstatebluegirl]

26. Moderately, I think this fall with everyone going back indoors will be the test.

I predict a really bad fall and winter.

[LonePirate]

28. I think a newer variant will be circulating in the fall and winter.

I expect the Delta variant to peak later this summer and then fade away like the previous variants and original strain.

[LisaL]

75. If new one replaces delta, it's going to be worse than delta.

It's survival of the fittest, and the fittest variant gets to spread. That's why delta is replacing other variants right now. Delta is the worst of them all, until new one develops that's even worse.

[totodeinhere]

29. I am very concerned. I live in a very red county. Those dummies voted over

70% for Trump in both elections. And not surprisingly, this county has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the whole country.

So only 25% are fully vaccinated, yet anymore when you go out you see almost nobody with a mask on. And since only 25% are vaccinated that means that most people I see without a mask are nut fully vaccinated and could either be spreading the virus or catching the virus. And just wait until that new variant arrives as it almost certainly will. We will be for a world of hurt around here.

[Thtwudbeme]

33. Concerned as hell

The handwriting is on the wall for this- and people act like it's a joke. "I am vaccinated! I am not LIVING IN FEAR."

We have already gone back to being fully masked in public- and frankly, I am starting to stock up now. I work in a middle school, and parents are already shrieking about their darlings not having to wear masks. "It doesn't affect kids that young!"

And yes- I am seeing some serious fools on DU. A poster already wrote that her father died from it, and he was vaccinated. All I can say to the anti-maskers, and the whiners--- stay away from me. Seriously- if you see someone in a store with a mask on- stay the hell away. We are taking it seriously, and your "opinion" is not worth my life.

[MLAA]

42. +1000

[Quakerfriend]

50. Exactly!

I am also masking up. Tomorrow I am going to a funeral.
I believe it will be outdoors but, I intend to keep my mask on for the entirety .

[Thtwudbeme]

70. I am sorry about your loved one that passed- but you are right

People that are jacking around with this- and playing the "I am not living in fear!" game need to stay away from me.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

95. Living in fear

The anti vaxx fools and anti maskers deny thier fear. They cover it up with denial and false bravado.

The denial is that they won't catch it or it cannot infect them.
So to maintain that delusion that comforts them they act out and lie believing bullshit they like to hear that reinforces thier delusions.

They cling to the delusion because to admit that
Covid could make them sick and die and have body damage afterwards is too scary for them to face.

They like being in control because of the narcissitic tendencies they have and they think appearing strong,
Makes them magically invulnerable.

When they can't control covid and when they snowflake out over other people's masks they claim maskers live in fear.

It's projection ,they don't want to trust a vaccine because of fear and they also deny that too.

Anti maskers use giving masked people shit as a way to reinforce thier delusion that they can control covid and they are magically immune to it.

Anything to keep their delusions alive. Because to admit the truth would make them the worst of jibbering weak kneed terrified powerless snowflakes. And they'd rather die than admit they are scared.

[BannonsLiver]

127. I'd like to think there's some middle ground between not worried and living in fear

[iemanja]

92. I'm vaccinated and still wear a mask.

I'm more concerned about those not wearing masks. Or perhaps you meant to say stay the hell away from people who aren't wearing a mask?

[Skittles]

132. thank you

the perspective is very different for those who think of others besides themselves

[BannonsLiver]

134. Your logic is hard to follow

You say to stay away from masked people in public. Do you actually believe the unvaccinated are wearing masks?

Are you not masking in public?

[MLAA]

39. My husband has heart and lung issues. We are both vaccinated.

I am still wearing a mask when in public but not with a few friends that are all vaccinated. I fear the 5% or so chance of getting the variant after vaccination would be very serious for someone like my husband.

[Politicub]

46. Concerned enough not to change many of my pre-vaccination behaviors

while out in public.

I think summer is going to be a period of time when people will be lulled to sleep. There will be another peak when cold weather comes unless more people get vaccinated.

[LisaL]

48. It's going to be before cold weather hits, because delta is starting to spread now.

NT

[Deminpenn]

51. Not concerned at all

Pfizer and Moderna are already working on booster shots. Now that technology has been proven, deployment of boosters should be fast.

[SoonerPride]

55. Fantastic post. Thank you.

spot on

[BannonsLiver]

125. You're supposed to be shitting your pants and posting scared emojis

It’s how we do things.

[Deminpenn]

142. LOL!

But, seriously, Dr Kizzy of the NIH, did the vaccine formula for SARS-CoV2 over the freaking weekend (!) once she got the virus' DNA sequence. I have no doubt that she'll be capable of the same with a booster shot.

[Midnight Writer]

56. I am very concerned our health care system will be overwhelmed, again.

I know folks who could not get proper treatment for non-Covid health problems during our last go-round.

Vaxed or not, if you have a medical emergency, and there are no beds, no doctors, no medical equipment available because it is being used for Covid patients, then you are screwed.

[Hekate]

73. "Here is some relevant information" -- Link?

Thank you.

[Quakerfriend]

80. We know that those fully vaccinated are likely to have a

more mild case, if they become COVID +.

However, just last week a report was put out that said even among patients who had COVID and were asymptomatic or had only mild cases, 30% visited their MD with NEW conditions that they had not had before- Examples given were hypertension, high cholesterol, fatigue or general malaise.

This disease effects metabolism in ways we don’t yet fully understand.

Seems to me It’s only smart to keep masking up.

[iemanja]

89. Just what America needs

Higher cholesterol and more hypertension.

[ananda]

85. So much that I don't think it'll be long before...

I have to shelter again.

I'm doing as much as I can while this vax works so I
won't have to worry about these things again till
next year.

[iemanja]

91. Concerned

I don't want to see even more people die, nor illness among the vaccinated. I think pretending there is nothing to worry about is mistaken. I am not, however, in a panic over it. So concerned, not very concerned.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

98. I am fully vaccinated but this variant still worries me

[marie999]

103. We are very concerned.

Not for us, but for our 12 great-grandchildren who are too young to be vaccinated.

[Meowmee]

105. We are still masking

Sd etc. We won’t stop until cases are way lower, vax way up and no more variants brewing. my father and I are covid lh. I am in the hospital with him now, he has been in and out since January when they gave him covid at the er. His health is destroyed. I had c19 double pneumonia at the beginning when idiots said masks would not protect you. Exposed by my students. I have longterm back pain, worse asthma, exhaustion, hair loss and more. Both cases could have been avoided with proper sd masks etc. , and in my case with an earlier start of online education, as well as a real response and early warning.

[Yavin4]

106. I'm not concerned at all.

And I won't be until the number of hospitalizations and deaths, not cases, start to grow exponentially. I recall how everyone here was sure that the Memorial Day weekend would bring a surge in cases, but that didn't happen. In fact, it was just the opposite.

I have resumed my pre-pandemic life fully and without a mask unless I am required by a business to wear one. I gave the virus over a year of my life, and I do not intend to give it any more time.

[SoonerPride]

112. You took the words out of my mouth.

I agree with everything you wrote.

[LisaL]

117. Give it a couple of weeks.

Delta is spreading, and US is acting as if pandemic was over.

[Yavin4]

120. The Delta variant has been in the U.S. for about a month now.

There's been no surge in hospitalizations and deaths because our vaccination programs targeted our most vulnerable population first.

Also, the same doom predictions were made about Memorial Day weekend. Well, we're a month out. Where's the surge?

[LisaL]

121. Cases are starting to go up in a number of states.

It's spreading.

[Yavin4]

122. Actually, cases are not going up.

I check the CDC numbers every day. Our 7 day average of cases on June 24th was 11,512. On May 24th, it was 23,575. That's a 50% drop in a month. A month that saw the CDC relax its guidance.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendscases

[muriel_volestrangler]

139. Case of the delta variant are going up

Fauci says delta accounts for 20% of new cases and will be dominant Covid variant in U.S. in weeks

White House chief medical advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday the delta variant now accounts for roughly 20% of newly diagnosed cases in the U.S. and will become the dominant Covid strain in the nation in a matter of weeks.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/23/delta-covid-variant-fauci-says-delta-accounts-for-20percent-of-new-cases-in-us.html

Back on 11th June that was 10%.

The overall 7 day average went from 13,130 in 11 June to 11,512 on June 24th; so the delta cases have gone from about 1,313 to 2,302 in 2 weeks.

And:

Missouri becomes hot spot for Delta variant fueling hospitalizations while vaccination efforts lag

Missouri is seeing a concerning uptick in hospitalizations due to Covid-19's Delta variant, which originated in India. In Springfield alone, there has been a 225% increase in hospital admissions since June 1, according to the Springfield-Greene County Health Department

The Delta variant -- which has been found to be more transmissible than others -- now accounts for about 29% of cases in Missouri, more than any other state, according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

And vaccination rates in Missouri remain below average, CDC data shows. About 38% of the state's population is fully vaccinated, compared to nearly 46% of the US population overall.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/us/missouri-covid-19-delta-variant-vaccine/index.html

[Raine]

109. Not concerned nt

[Blue_true]

110. Somewhat concerned.

I still wear my mask whenever I am in a situation where I can’t confirm that everyone is fully vaccinated. That means whenever I shop, I am wearing my mask. I still will not do inside dining, for me it is takeout or drive thru and I am masked for takeout pickup.

[Kaleva]

113. I'm as prepared as I can be so I'm not concerned

[Maru Kitteh]

119. I work in infection control. My dial goes to 11.

I give Delta a solid 14.

[BannonsLiver]

130. "Well it's one louder i'nit?"

[Hugin]

133. Out of general curiosity and an academic interest...

At what level would you throw in a flare?

[MaeScott]

138. It's coming for the Qberts

[GoCubsGo]

141. I'm more afraid of the fallout than I am of the variant, itself.

I'm vaccinated, so I'm probably going to be okay, at least for now. But, almost 2/3 of the people around me are not vaccinated, which is going to create conditions ripe for the virus to form other variants. Will the vaccine protect us from that?

I really need to get out of this hellhole...