****Official Debate Thread #6****** Wrapping up....

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[RoccoR5955]

1. My score is

Romney -13 Obama 8

Romney lies, and interrupts. Obama only interrupted twice. I lost count on how many times Romney did.

Romney also failed to answer all but one of the questions with details. Obama did.

[rocktivity]

6. I'm counting by how effectively the questions are answered

Obama everything - Romney nothing


rocktivity

[rocktivity]

2. This woman sounds like she's about to burst into tears

She's asking about AK-47s.


rockivity

[tawadi]

11. Most of the people seemed extremely nervous

Except the plant.

[RoccoR5955]

18. Which one is the plant? n/t

[Hayabusa]

55. I'd imagine he's referring to

the man who asked about the Libya attacks. He certainly seemed plantish.

And Fast and Furious BS.

[TampaKeeper]

72. He was totally a plant

IMO of course.

[Warren DeMontague]

189. Straight off of right wing AM Radio

yep.

[tawadi]

226. That's the one. eom

[treestar]

3. President has worked hard on and avoided the "uhs."

[Johonny]

5. toastmasters FTW

[TransitJohn]

12. Lol.

He needs to shake the 'folks'.

[Purveyor]

9. Yep...that is about it. eom

[KewlKat]

10. i noticed that.....i think tonight he's passionate about what he's saying and the words are just

flowing......and i'm thinking he may be a bit pissed.

[Flatpicker]

35. I figure the 1st debate was a shock for Obama

When Quantum Romney came out of the box.

[Thegonagle]

84. I noticed that. He probably watched the new SNL episodes.

[Gregorian]

4. Breaking News- Rmoney trips over own tongue. Can't stop blabbing about Lybia terrorist handling.

[Flatpicker]

13. Mitt lost it by arguing against the transcript.

[renate]

19. I got confused by what happened there, but I guess it worked out for us?

[uppityperson]

220. Mitt said Obama went to Vegas and other fun places to raise money, was out of touch right after the

attacks.

Obama said he was in Rose Garden the day after, called it terrorism.

Mitt said he didn't call it terrorism for 2 weeks and didn't say it was by an established terrorist group for 2 weeks.

Obama said check the transcripts.

Moderator said he did call it terrorism the next day but they didn't know who did it for 2 weeks.

spank

[desertduck]

227. Big ass spank!!! Wow! Nt

[uppityperson]

223. Here is a link to the give and take.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/candy-crowley-interjects-obama-did-in-fact-say

[gkhouston]

30. The odd thing about his persistence in this is that I haven't talked to or overhead anyone

who gave a shit about this. It's not unusual for news stories to change as more details become available and people expect Libya to be dangerous.

[ecstatic]

74. That mumbling was a sight to see

It made the moment even worse for him!

[uponit7771]

7. Obama hasn't been the best on this issue...but a whole lot better than romney

[nolabear]

8. I am completely happy with President Obama tonight.

[high density]

16. me too, he has done great!

[tawadi]

22. Once he got started

Wish he'd come out strong, with a working mic. Overall, he was awesome.

[Misskittycat]

14. Best moment yet: O: Go ahead, Governor... (keep digging that hole you're digging yourself into)

That was brillliant; utilizing that old adage - when your opponent is digging a hole, let him keep digging. (It goes something like that.)

[jsmirman]

29. It was also a "back up out of my face" moment

"Governor, Proceed."

[jillan]

15. The one area that Candy is failing is not asking the questioner if their question was answered.

Both are guilty of not answering
But Mitwit much more so.

[Grown2Hate]

17. Automatic weapons are illegal here now? Really? Or am I stupid?

[uppityperson]

221. getting married stops crime.

[Grown2Hate]

225. So let the gays marry and we can stop all that gay on gay crime!!!

[Nevernose]

20. Romney sure signed a lot of gun restrictions while governor

Shit up, Romney.

[Squinch]

21. Once again, thank you to the commenters from those of us too scared to watch!!!

[Thegonagle]

23. Is anyone watching on CNN? The CNN-O-Meter pretty much has it for the Prez

at this point.

Kind of fun to watch.

[Rob H.]

24. Romney "#1 in schools in the nation in my state"

but 47th in job creation (which he didn't mention).

[hue]

25. Rmoney FAILS on this question!!

[hue]

47. Haha! Rmoney losing it!!!

[rocktivity]

26. Romney's gone from guns to two-parent families

P.S. Fast and Furious started under the BUSH administration


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[Nevernose]

32. Bizarre.

[renate]

50. what?

I looked away for a couple of seconds from an answer to the gun question and Romney's talking about single moms and single dads?

Oh, no, wait, he's back to guns now. That was weird.

[Thegonagle]

65. Fast and Furious flat-lined on CNN.

People KNOW Bush started that.

[Javaman]

27. mittens dictates his family bullshit beliefs. nt

[MadrasT]

54. In response to a question about... AK47s.

[Javaman]

219. !!!

[bullwinkle428]

28. What if those two parents are of the same gender, Mittens?

[StarryNite]

31. So Married people don't commit violent acts?

[KewlKat]

64. I guess not in Romneyland

[cabot]

33. Gun violence is related to one parent households? WTF?

[KewlKat]

71. the world according to warped romney

[reformist2]

34. Blaming gun violence on single-parent families??? Horrible answer.

[ecstatic]

36. Here we go. Assault on single parents begins

Slap in the face to all single parents watching.

[theKed]

37. That's actually a correlation-causation fallacy

Romney's statement on poverty/single-parenthood.
Nice try, though.

[4moreyearsobama]

38. Post debate coverage

Hopefully Chris Matthews, Ed, and Rachel will run with the President winning this debate... which he has!

[beac]

60. WELCOME TO DU!!

Can't imagine anyone calling this other than a home run for Obama.

[renate]

66. welcome to DU!

Love your user name!

[beac]

39. LOLOLOL Mittens trying to turn a

gun control question into a defense of "traditional marriage" then realizes he's insulted single parents and then tries to use Fast & Furious.

What a putz.

[nolabear]

40. Well that was an odd left turn on Romney's part. Two parent homes and Fast and Furious?

[nobodyspecial]

41. Two parent families are the answer to violence

He really does dream of going back to the '50s

[superpatriotman]

42. Fast and furious, mittens?

Yes. You don't know how it worked so STFU. Sounds like a conspiracy nut.

[meow2u3]

43. What an ass! Robme is talking about marriage

when the topic is AK-47's!

What the hell does getting married before you have kids and having two parents in the home have to do with assault weapons?

[bullwinkle428]

44. Fast & Furious? Seriously? This is the the villain throwing the gun at Superman when

he's out of bullets!

[high density]

45. Nobody cares about Fast and Furious

What a dumbass.

[ecstatic]

46. Romney is so off topic. Is he having a senile moment? nt

[WinkyDink]

69. He's got to do what he's been paid to do.

[Hayabusa]

124. I think he's just less subtle

at steering the questions into the talking points than Obama is.

[crispini]

48. Loopy

[Javaman]

49. Candy attempts to get back on topic after mittens blathers. nt

[RoccoR5955]

51. Another romney lie, another Obama detailing the answer

Score
Romney -14 Obama 9

[Flatpicker]

52. Holder was cleared

by a Repug jury.

Don't feign outrage Mitt.

[Rob H.]

53. Trying to tie Obama to "Fast & Furious"

Wasn't that program started by DUBYA? Going out of his way to not answer the question. Supported assault weapons ban in Massachusetts then, but not nationwide now. FLIP-FLOP!

[bullwinkle428]

56. "I was just an innocent bystander in MA when I was governor!"

[reformist2]

57. Romney makes a SECOND unforced error, in not knowing assault weapons are legal.

The FIRST big error was in not knowing Obama recognized Bengazi was terrorism on Day One.

[treestar]

58. If this culture is violent, Mittwit, it's because of your warmongering

And that of your party.

[theKed]

59. Lol

Smacked down again by Candy.
Isn't she right-wing? She must be embarrassed to have to do that so much to her guy.

[Javaman]

61. Is it just me or is mittens all over the map? nt

[spooky3]

62. The photo of the women in the audience was priceless when R was talking about marriage and guns

They looked bored, disgusted, appalled, doubting.

[Honeycombe8]

63. Romney was FOR the assault weapons ban before he was against it. Point Obama.

[reformist2]

67. Romney to America: Watch out for those kids being raised by single moms!!!

[GreenEyedLefty]

113. they might become president!

[sfpcjock]

68. Can I have an AK, please Mom and Dad?

[nolabear]

70. C'mon, O. Don't let him get away with talking bipartisanship.

[RoccoR5955]

73. ZINGER for Obama!

Romney was for assault weapons ban before he was against them

+10 for Obama

Score
Romney -14 Obama +18

[Javaman]

75. Here's my headline for tomorrow: The Blather and the Answerer. nt

[Honeycombe8]

76. Ruh-roh. Now Obama is interrupting moderator.

[nolabear]

77. LOL Obama's far better at being pushy.

[Gregorian]

92. Hey, I'm the president.....byatch!

[spooky3]

98. yes, but he needs to pull it back a little now - don't abuse the moderator like R does

Prez has a huge advantage on this tonight and he shouldn't give that up.

[tarheelsunc]

78. Ha! Mitt gets an outsourcing question

[KewlKat]

79. SENSATA......NOW

[demlion]

80. Mitt outsourcing this should be fun

[demlion]

102. Unfortunately Mitt O gets the last word on this; too damn bad for you

[ecstatic]

81. ok. this should be a slam dunk. put him away O! nt

[janx]

82. Outsourcing again...n/t

[Rob H.]

83. Asking Romney about outsourcing

LOL. Let the weaseling begin!

[bullwinkle428]

85. The Geico Gecko is WAY cooler when he does "the robot"!

[Flatpicker]

86. Romney on Outsourcing

His area of expertise.

[Honeycombe8]

87. Outsourcing question...to Romney? And he's starting w/a China problem? LOL!

[Javaman]

88. Here comes Bain!!! nt

[beac]

89. POPCORN TIME... let's all enjoy

Mittens trying to say he's against outsourcing!!

[ecstatic]

105. It's time for a violent shut down!

Pleaseeeeeeeeeee

[RoccoR5955]

90. And how many of those jobs in China are you responsible for Bishop Willard?

[meow2u3]

91. Now they're debating outsourcing to China nt

[treestar]

93. Mittwit starts every time with how important this question is

[gkhouston]

130. It eats up time. I'm still half-expecting "thousand points of light" and "wouldn't be prudent". nt

[nolabear]

94. Pres. Obama's looking at him like he's lost his mind.

[KewlKat]

104. HA HA

[cabot]

95. Please mention Freeport, IL President Obama!! Please! This question just begs for it.

[KewlKat]

110. AGREE.....please mr president

[hue]

115. Yes!! This is the time for Sensata!!!!

[theKed]

95. Oh. My. God.

How many of those jobs that went to China are from YOU Romney?
Is he seriously making the case against outsourcing?
LOL

[high density]

97. cut taxes yeah!!! Because that has worked so well!

[hue]

99. One of the major reasons jobs went to China is because of You Rmoney!!

[Honeycombe8]

100. I wonder how many times R has said "small business"?

[Jello Biafra]

101. Here we go again with the GOP talking points.....

Trickle Down....blah blah blah.....

[Norbert]

103. Bainport Mittens Bainport

Go get 'um Mr President.

[StarryNite]

106. What a fucking hypocrite!

[Thor_MN]

107. Nice try, Mittens... Trickle Down is YOUR failed policy

[Kolesar]

108. Romney is blowing the offshoring question

I suppose he moved the paper plant out of Marion, Indiana because of "Chinese currency manipulation" /sarcasm

[high density]

116. Cut taxes.

it solves every problem!

[Thegonagle]

126. And because of Obamacare. Can't forget to blame Obamacare.

[WinkyDink]

109. China, you're a CURRENCY MANIPULATOR! You are DARK-SIDED!

[NYC Liberal]

111. LOL! Hannity just tweeted that Obama telling Romney to please proceed is "game over"

[demlion]

137. Is that good or bad

[NYC Liberal]

165. He thinks Romney is winning

[reflection]

138. I had to leave at 9p

Please tell me what the " proceed" thing is about. I'm dying to know!

[NYC Liberal]

218. Here's the transcript:

ROMNEY: I -- I think interesting the president just said something which -- which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror.

OBAMA: That’s what I said.

ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror.

It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you’re saying?

OBAMA: Please proceed governor.

ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.

OBAMA: Get the transcript.

CROWLEY: It -- it -- it -- he did in fact, sir. So let me -- let me call it an act of terror...

OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy?

CROWLEY: He -- he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take -- it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.

[reflection]

228. Thanks!

[reformist2]

112. Romney: "We lost a lot of jobs to China." *And I made a lot of money sending them there. He He*

[nolabear]

114. Uh, Mitt, you can't just go to Canada and start a business.

[Thegonagle]

135. Well, Mitt can. But he's rich as hell.

[Gregorian]

117. MITT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S SELLING SHAM-WOWS OR SLAP-CHOPS. What's with his phoney sounding voice.

[llmart]

122. That just made me laugh out loud....

and I woke my dog up.

[Javaman]

125. mittens and Ron Popeal have a lot in common. nt

[WinkyDink]

127. But wait! There's more!

[Gregorian]

146. Yes, there IS more. Mitt Romney's K-Tel economic plan. It's just as evasive and rubbery as he is.

[Ken Burch]

178. And you don't WANT to see what Ryan will do with the Ginzu Knives...

[Gregorian]

211. They're all too dull to do shit.

[Ken Burch]

222. ...and then there's the knives!...

n/t.

[Kolesar]

133. Camera guy are you getting this? eom

[forestpath]

141. SNORT!

[Barack_America]

149. You're going to LOVE his nuts!!

[llmart]

118. I have absolutely forgotten what the question was.

[Javaman]

119. mittens as that little bead of sweat on his upper lip. desperation time. lol nt

[WinkyDink]

120. "Get rid of Obama-care, and we'll stop sending jobs to China!!"

[bullwinkle428]

121. NPR Marketplace totally called out Mittens on his "borrowing from China" bullshit.

[Volaris]

123. OMFG...

Tricke-Down must suck so bad as a theory that even the Federal Government can't make it work. That's good Mitt, keep projecting about that destroyed and disproven voodoo economics.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. You're DONE.

[renate]

128. WTH the clock ran out on him about a minute ago

What a bully!

But what a great visual... the clock turning red and ticking down and just as his time runs out he says "but I'm not going to stop here...."

[WinkyDink]

134. Romney---going back to his Grampa---cares not for laws.

[JNelson6563]

129. Obama is really rocking it.

How to bring jobs to US.


Julie

[hue]

131. Sensata!!!!!!

[Rob H.]

132. Obama calling out Romney on Bain outsourcing

and Romney's blather about currency manipulation.

[Poiuyt]

136. NBC reporting that Obama's team is pouring into the spin room

They are getting the first shot

[forestpath]

188. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

[WinkyDink]

139. China CHEATS, Ma! They even have a fake APPLE store! Hey--CC argued with O! NOT in the RULES.

[underpants]

140. On tape delay-- Libya just went off the table

[WinkyDink]

148. What do you mean?

[Flatpicker]

142. Drop the US wages

Right Mitt?

DIAF Mitt. (slowly)

[NYC Liberal]

143. Romney calling for a "level playing field" yet wants fewer regulations here in the US

[llmart]

144. Another slapdown by Candy to Mitwit.

[hue]

145. Go sit in your chair Rmoney & suck your thumb!!

[nolabear]

147. Uh-oh. Obama's telling the truth. He needs to go patriot along with this.

[Rob H.]

150. Romney interjecting "Government does not create jobs, government does not create jobs."

STFU, Rombot.

[bullwinkle428]

167. "Old man yells at cloud."

[Rob H.]

182. Heh, absolutely

He just can't stand not having the last word.

[Javaman]

151. soft ball question. nt

[ecstatic]

152. "government does not create jobs"

He didn't say that, idiot.

[llmart]

153. Time for another nonanswer.

[llmart]

160. I like Coal.

I like Big Bird.

what will he like now?

[nolabear]

154. Misperceptions. Oh Lord.

[high density]

155. "Gov Romney, roll back your comment on the 47%. Kthx."

[Flatpicker]

157. Government Does not create Jobs

That was pathetic. He just had to have the last word...

[theKed]

158. Got a big enough shovel

for all that bullshit, Mittens?

[Liberal In Texas]

159. "I'm really not rich!"

[RoccoR5955]

161. What he says in public is quite different from what Romney says in private

[Rob H.]

162. Romney "care(s) about 100% of the American people"

What bullshit.

[KewlKat]

163. missionary that got exemptions from service to country.....in france

[IcyPeas]

164. mitt said the 100% - will Obama mention the 47%

[llmart]

186. There it is!!!!

[meow2u3]

166. I smell the 47% issue coming up

Rmoney repeats lie that he cares about the 100%.

[StarryNite]

168. He served as a missionary instead of in Vietnam..

even though he was pro war!

[jillan]

169. Mitt didn't answer the question - again!!

[llmart]

170. I sat across the table with an unemployed person..

OMG. He's just awful.

[kerouac2]

171. prez has let up for past 20 minutes. bummer nt

[OldDem2012]

191. Hmmm. Really?? nt.

[obamanut2012]

212. no

[ecstatic]

172. omfg. Robme has walked into so many landmines

without any assistance. I'm really hoping Obama uses Robme's 100% statement as an opportunity to bring up the 47%.

[tarheelsunc]

199. Excellent prediction!

and perfect timing! mitt couldn't respond to it

[hue]

173. Ewww! Spare me this Rmoney shit!!!!!!

[RoccoR5955]

174. Again no specifics from Romney.

Just trust him. Details will come later.

[Flatpicker]

175. Missionary for my church

- Avoiding the Vietnam War.

Mitt is evil.

[KewlKat]

176. he can't answer the questions asked of him.

[Kolesar]

177. Mr. Green's question about "misperceptions" is lame

Romney just answered with a stump speech

[WinkyDink]

179. Extremely lame. That was ALSO approved by CC.

[high density]

181. Terrible

But Obama is now talking about 47%... So thanks for that.

[Kolesar]

205. Yes, the President moved off to the 47% gaffe...happy here...eom

[nolabear]

180. C'mon, Obama. Bring it home.

[Catherine Vincent]

183. I know one thing

I will be PISSED if the media scores this debate as a draw.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

184. BOOM! 47%~

[crispini]

185. Ahahah he got the victims crack in! YEAH

[GreenEyedLefty]

187. 47%!! HELL YEAH

[Honeycombe8]

190. Obama's final question: We have a fundamentally different vision..mentions the 47% R talked about.

[theKed]

192. Aaaaaannd there's the headshot

Say goodnight folks.

[bullwinkle428]

193. GENIUS!!! Nailing him on 47% in his closing statement!!!!

[Lars39]

194. 47%

[MadrasT]

195. And he ends with THE 47%!!!!

Fuck yeah!!!

[meow2u3]

196. WTG, PBO! He brought up the 47% issue!

Obama mentioned that Rmoney wrote off 47% of the country as victims who won't take personal responsiblity. BAM!

[hue]

197. At last!!! Answering the 47% question!!!!! Thanks President Obama!!!

[chiffon]

198. BAMMMM!! There it is!!! The 47% response from my president!! Go Obama!

[Javaman]

200. Obama shoots, He Scores!!! nt

[RoccoR5955]

201. My final score...

Obama wins by a landslide.

Obama +20
Romney -20

[llmart]

202. Wow!

Brooks gave the win to the Prez! That had to be hard for him.

[Sparkly]

203. The President hit the high notes, kept it on pitch, and it was music to my ears!!!

And Mittens helped by being as obviously asinine as he is.

[Honeycombe8]

204. Woo-hoo! Obama done good. Now Wolf is explaining what Obama did wrong. Time to change channel.

[KewlKat]

206. well moderated by crowley.....come on tweety, give me a break.

[nolabear]

209. I thought she did great.

[Kolesar]

214. Agreed, and I had a long standing loathing of Candy from the bush years

That I have to get beyond

[Frank Cannon]

224. Me too.

But I have to admit that she did a good job.

And Jim Lehrer really needs to retire.

[Digit]

207. Obama was awesome, how he managed to not deck romney is beyond me

[SaveAmerica]

208. I need a cigarette! That was amazing!!! Ahhhhh!

[Rob H.]

210. Obama cockpunches Romney with Romney's private "47% comment"

YES, YES, YES!

[there_is_no_spoon]

213. More people surrounding

The President now!!!!!!

[LittleBlue]

215. That was very good for Obama

Good debate.

[ReasonableToo]

216. CSPAN - post coverage... Obama talking to people...

...Mitt just saying thanks and glad-handing n/t

[gkhouston]

217. Obama wants those votes and he's willing to work for them. n/t