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DemocraticPatriot

(4,361 posts)
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:50 PM Jun 2021

Fully vaccinated, and keeping my mask on

when I go into stores and such. I think it is still too soon for them to be coming off, and thought so before the W.H.O. said so. I am sorry that my own governor in Michigan seems to have worn out under all the anti-mask pressure, and let that requirement lapse.

"Only the un-vaccinated need to wear masks?" Those were all the people who have resisted it from the beginning. Do I now expect they will be honest about it? No, I do not.

Anyway, I'm used to wearing it, and there seems to have been a side benefit. I usually gets colds or flu a couple times a year... and I have not caught anything since this whole thing started. Sometimes when I got sick, I was befuddled as to how I had been exposed, as I had hardly been around anyone... My conclusion was that I caught it at the grocery store, perhaps from germs left on a shopping cart. Now of course I have been sanitizing hands and cart handles... I may be vaccinated for COVID, but I have not had a flu vaccine in years...

So, will the anti-maskers support my "freedom" to keep wearing my mask?

They may think I am making some "political statement" by keeping it on. If so, they are partly right.

The other part is to protect myself from them-- as the vaccine is not a 100-percent solution.

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Fully vaccinated, and keeping my mask on (Original Post) DemocraticPatriot Jun 2021 OP
I'm keeping my mask on too MiniMe Jun 2021 #1
Wearing my mask until I feel safe I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #19
Me too. I'm thrilled about the vaccine, but variants are still breeding out there. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #45
At what point will you return to life as it was in 2019? SoonerPride Jun 2021 #2
I don't know. DemocraticPatriot Jun 2021 #3
I intend to wear masks during flu season as they do in Japan SoonerPride Jun 2021 #7
Do you know your risk of getting ill from delta variant? elias7 Jun 2021 #36
My risk from delta variant is minuscule SoonerPride Jun 2021 #39
Lol! Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #43
Aren't you worried that your immune system will get soft and 'out of practice'? Calculating Jun 2021 #20
No, I am not worried about that. DemocraticPatriot Jun 2021 #32
I am not taking my mask off either. LisaL Jun 2021 #4
You mean when a taint fungus was squatting in the WH? Hugin Jun 2021 #29
we don't know Skittles Jun 2021 #30
The vaccine is the solution to keep from catching it. Throck Jun 2021 #5
If you want it to protect you, there are N95 masks. LisaL Jun 2021 #6
I'm Back To Wearing The Vented N95 Masks I Bought Last Year SoCalDavidS Jun 2021 #12
The valved kind? LisaL Jun 2021 #13
Yeah, The Valved Kind SoCalDavidS Jun 2021 #16
Masks are cheap now, if one wants to stock up. LisaL Jun 2021 #17
Always bunk: "The mask is the solution to prevent giving it. Bobstandard Jun 2021 #22
I use N95 masks, DemocraticPatriot Jun 2021 #33
Same here! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #37
The vax is not 100% inoculation, one can still get cv19 if vaxed uponit7771 Jun 2021 #42
Good for you. obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2021 #8
Same. n/t TDale313 Jun 2021 #9
I cared for pts with covid, horrid death, you die alone & got covid myself from this. Wear the mask Murphyb849 Jun 2021 #10
Me, too. Laffy Kat Jun 2021 #11
I was the only one in a mask in a store today. LisaL Jun 2021 #15
Here in nj NJCher Jun 2021 #28
Same for me, Laffy SheltieLover Jun 2021 #38
Mine is going back on since.vaccine is only 78% against Delta JCMach1 Jun 2021 #14
I'm still masking indoors too, and don't see that changing anytime soon. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #18
Me? Not so much. But sometimes. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #21
"If you are fully vaccinated you have a tiny chance wnylib Jun 2021 #24
I don't disagree. But that's just part of the story. And narrative GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #27
As someone over 65 with comorbidities, wnylib Jun 2021 #35
Yawn, pretty much tired of both antimaskers and the mask obsessed at this point. Jon King Jun 2021 #23
I'm with you. I wear a mask indoors so others can feel comfortable, but that's it really. Lucky Luciano Jun 2021 #25
Not sure why some can be so cavalier about a virus which has killed DemocraticPatriot Jun 2021 #34
The vaccine was our solution to return to living SoonerPride Jun 2021 #40
Science is very clear that vaccines are not 100 % effective. LisaL Jun 2021 #41
Staying locked up in your own house is 100% effective MichMan Jun 2021 #44
Yes, it's either staying locked in your home or LisaL Jun 2021 #46
If the criteria is 100% effectiveness , there actually is no middle ground MichMan Jun 2021 #47
Not having an option of staying locked up in the house, I plan to go for 99% effectiveness. LisaL Jun 2021 #48
Couldn't agree more; stopped wearing one weeks ago MichMan Jun 2021 #49
"Yawn", thousands dead and your bored?? Classy! Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #51
Same here at our fully vaccinated home Zeitghost Jun 2021 #53
Because they want the pandemic to continue BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #54
Fully vaxxed myself.. Postal Grunt Jun 2021 #26
Good job! roamer65 Jun 2021 #31
this llashram Jun 2021 #50
I have quit wearing masks in any uncrowded situation. lark Jun 2021 #52
I totally agree. I do the same thing and I find some of responses in this thread ---well, Atticus Jun 2021 #55

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
1. I'm keeping my mask on too
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:53 PM
Jun 2021

I've seen things that "they" are putting up down south I think that say masks not allowed in establishments. It is none of their business if I want to wear a mask. Especially with the Delta variant around. I'm not taking chances.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
45. Me too. I'm thrilled about the vaccine, but variants are still breeding out there.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 11:14 AM
Jun 2021

I'll likely keep the mask on for years, at least.

Plus, it keeps out pollen, dust, influenza, etc.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
2. At what point will you return to life as it was in 2019?
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:54 PM
Jun 2021

When covid is totally eradicated ?

Never?

At what point will you feel comfortable enough to resume life as it used to be?

DemocraticPatriot

(4,361 posts)
3. I don't know.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:57 PM
Jun 2021

Maybe I will ALWAYS wear a mask into the grocery store from now on-- as it seemed to be where I was catching my other illnesses.

Anyway, with it, I don't have to shave so often. lol

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
7. I intend to wear masks during flu season as they do in Japan
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:00 PM
Jun 2021

But I no longer wear a mask for covid because I no longer feel worried about catching it.

Each person will have to assess what their risk tolerance is.

Some may never go back to mallees interactions in public.

That’s fine. It’s a free country.

At least until the next election.

elias7

(3,997 posts)
36. Do you know your risk of getting ill from delta variant?
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 06:42 AM
Jun 2021

You say you’re not worried about catching Covid, but I believe CDC guidance will be changing again soon in response to WHO latest recs. Keep yourself safe…

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
20. Aren't you worried that your immune system will get soft and 'out of practice'?
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:47 PM
Jun 2021

Gotta catch a cold every now and then to keep it on its toes. We're meant to be exposed to constant low level threats, it's why children raised in too clean of an environment develop allergies/asthma/etc.

Throck

(2,520 posts)
5. The vaccine is the solution to keep from catching it.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:59 PM
Jun 2021

The mask is the solution to prevent giving it.

The virus is small and easily gets through the oversized pours in the fabric of mask.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
12. I'm Back To Wearing The Vented N95 Masks I Bought Last Year
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:15 PM
Jun 2021

They started to be banned, but now I can protect myself once again.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
13. The valved kind?
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:16 PM
Jun 2021

I purchased some too, before we were told not to wear them. But now I can dig them out and put them on. Now I can be more comfortable and still highly protected.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
16. Yeah, The Valved Kind
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:27 PM
Jun 2021

Obviously much easier to breathe out of, yet still N95. I may buy some more. I only bought a box of 10, since they became crazy expensive. Then I gave several away to family & friends, so only have 3 left.

Bobstandard

(1,305 posts)
22. Always bunk: "The mask is the solution to prevent giving it.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 12:00 AM
Jun 2021

The typical mask may always have been more effective against giving than getting the virus but it has always given the wearer some protection.

I had someone confront me about wearing my mask just day before yesterday and I told him honestly that It was to protect me from the assholes who refuse to get vaccinated. And then I said,” why, what business is it of yours?” He skittered off down the chips and soda aisle.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,361 posts)
33. I use N95 masks,
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 03:36 AM
Jun 2021

which DO also offer a good degree of protection to the user.

I can tell how good it is, because it is harder to breathe... lol but it is a small inconvenience for the short periods I feel I need to wear it.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
11. Me, too.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:13 PM
Jun 2021

At the grocery store this afternoon I was one of a very few still wearing a mask. Even though I'm fully vaccinated, I don't plan on not wearing one in public any time soon.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
15. I was the only one in a mask in a store today.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:20 PM
Jun 2021

Considering less than fifty % in my state are vaccinated, the math here doesn't add up. I really doubt all of those in the store without masks were vaccinated.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
14. Mine is going back on since.vaccine is only 78% against Delta
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:17 PM
Jun 2021

Another infection could kill me and my 10yo is too young to get vaccine

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
18. I'm still masking indoors too, and don't see that changing anytime soon.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:31 PM
Jun 2021

I'm more relaxed outdoors, though still have a mask around my neck in case I feel that I need it.

If anyone here wants to mock me, or get all incredulous about it, I'll just put them on ignore.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. Me? Not so much. But sometimes.
Sun Jun 27, 2021, 11:50 PM
Jun 2021

If shopping at Publix on a Saturday with big crowds I put it on. But on a Wednesday morning with no one I don’t.

The news plays up the dramatic. But if you are fully vaccinated you have a tiny chance of going to the hospital with Covid. Regardless of the variant.

Went to a brewery today. Very well spaced tables. I was comfortable with no mask.

All three of us are fully vaccinated.

I do worry about the wife who is over 60(barely) and had the J&J. Which Is not as good as the mRNA vaccines. But she is not concerned. And she has no co- morbidities. She recently had a very young manager that works for her assume she was in her late 40’s! Without knowing she has 39 years with the same company!

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
24. "If you are fully vaccinated you have a tiny chance
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 12:37 AM
Jun 2021

of going tto the hospitsl with covid."

I'd add a qualifier for that statement. If you are fully vaccinated, under 65, and have no comorbidities, the chsnce of going to the hospital with covid are tiny.

But, of the deaths and hospitalizations that have occured in vaccinated people, 76% were over 65. If they also have comorbidities, their risk is even higher.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
27. I don't disagree. But that's just part of the story. And narrative
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 01:05 AM
Jun 2021

As expected older folks are more at risk. Co-Morbidities increase the risk.

But the fact remains. Over 90% of hospitals cases of Covid are unvaccinated. Actually much higher than that. 97%.

If everyone took the vaccine we would have no real issues.

We are fully vaccinated. Healthy.

Careful where it’s called for.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
35. As someone over 65 with comorbidities,
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 04:59 AM
Jun 2021

I just think that people like myself should be more aware that, for us, risks do exist after vaccination and we should take reasonable precautions.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
23. Yawn, pretty much tired of both antimaskers and the mask obsessed at this point.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 12:31 AM
Jun 2021

We are a vaccinated family, eat healthy, get up early each morning to exercise. So we enjoy life now....like to see smiling faces, talk to people without masks blocking them, smell the fresh bread at the bakery.

But to each their own. Looking at the causes of death and disability...obesity, sedentary life style, over stressing about stuff., some driver texting and causing an accident...getting the virus and having a serious consequence once vaccinated is pretty far down on the list.

Not sure why some on this forum seem obsessed with the virus....its dropped far down the list of things that kill Americans these days.

Lucky Luciano

(11,254 posts)
25. I'm with you. I wear a mask indoors so others can feel comfortable, but that's it really.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 12:51 AM
Jun 2021

When we go to restaurants, we only eat outside since my son is under 12 and can’t be vaccinated and we don’t know what long term consequences there can be even if he were asymptomatic.

I will probably mask up during flu season to protect others, but I’m not afraid of personally getting sick. Eight years ago is the last time I had any kind of sniffles…before that, I was once sick about 22 years ago….and three years before that I was totally blasted by something. Before that, in college and high school, I only faked illness, but I don’t recall actually getting sick. However, I will wear a mask in the winter if it means I may slow the spread of the flu which does kill about 30k people per year on average!

DemocraticPatriot

(4,361 posts)
34. Not sure why some can be so cavalier about a virus which has killed
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 03:43 AM
Jun 2021

more than 600k people in the last year, in this country alone--- and is mutating and not near finished--

but "to each their own".



MichMan

(11,915 posts)
44. Staying locked up in your own house is 100% effective
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 11:10 AM
Jun 2021

If the expectation is 100%, that would probably be the safest choice for those with that criteria

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
46. Yes, it's either staying locked in your home or
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 11:15 AM
Jun 2021

going out as normal, no mask, no social distancing, attending large gatherings and so on.
There is no middle ground here.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
47. If the criteria is 100% effectiveness , there actually is no middle ground
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 11:25 AM
Jun 2021

70-98% sure, but like you said, the vaccine isn't 100%

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
49. Couldn't agree more; stopped wearing one weeks ago
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 11:35 AM
Jun 2021

An obsession with trying to guarantee a risk free life isn't feasible or healthy

If someone else wants to wear a mask 24/7, a full haz mat suit, or stay locked up in their house is none of my concern.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
53. Same here at our fully vaccinated home
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jun 2021

I roll my eyes when I hear people I know who live sedentary, unhealthy lives go on about simple precautions and the health risks even after being vaccinated. Do what you want, but if you were that worried about taking simple precautions you would put down the Pepsi and go for a walk.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
54. Because they want the pandemic to continue
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jun 2021

Either because they’ve developed Stockholm Syndrome, don’t want to go back to the office or they like the ready made excuse not to socialize, which I admit I’ve done. And finally, there are some who hope it kills off a bunch of Trump humpers.

Postal Grunt

(215 posts)
26. Fully vaxxed myself..
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 12:55 AM
Jun 2021

I'm fully vaxxed myself but I'm still wearing a mask almost everywhere. I can walk into all sorts of places with a mask, polarized shades, and a Tilley hat on, including banks and liquor stores. I know that it's kind of juvenile to enjoy it but after the last 16 months, I need to catch up on having a little fun. Since Missouri is just a few miles away across the river and Delta on the rise there, that might become a necessity quite soon.

lark

(23,097 posts)
52. I have quit wearing masks in any uncrowded situation.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 12:46 PM
Jun 2021

If it's crowded, I usually go away and look for someplace less crowded or wait for a less crowded time. I am retired, so it's much easier for me as I can go when others are working and avoid the Friday night, Sat. shopping of so many of the working class.

We aren't flying anywhere and aren't cruising and aren't going to movies or any events with large crowds. We are considering going to a movie during a Tuesday day when hubby is off, so there's not many people there, when there's something we really want to see. We're renewing our passports, and I'm told that now takes a long time. Once we have updated versions, we will see if it's safe to go back to Europe or if New Zealand will let us in then. For now, we plan on driving to places of high vaccination rates for our vacations. We're going to the Keys in Aug. for hubby birthday and want to look into river trips in NE for the fall.

I'm really hoping that by 2022 we can go to the Jazz Fest in NO. LA is a disaster in vaccinating their folks, so not wanting to travel there now.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
55. I totally agree. I do the same thing and I find some of responses in this thread ---well,
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 10:09 PM
Jun 2021

"amazing" is the best I can manage.

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