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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 05:13 PM Jun 2021

This is an example how more than 20 women's sexual assault cases were handled by Cy Vance

"A group of women who allege they were abused by disgraced OB-GYN Robert Hadden called for the resignation of Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance on Thursday.

At an early-morning news conference outside New York's City Hall, Hadden accusers Marissa Hoechstetter and Dayna Solomon stood with supporters and called for the ouster of Manhattan's top prosecutor, saying he was overly lenient with the man who allegedly abused them.
"When I reported the crimes against me to the DA in 2015, I was one of more than 20 women who'd come forward about the same man," Hoechstetter said Thursday, "Rather than respect me and pursue justice, the DA chose to offer Hadden a plea some have called the deal of the century."
Hadden, formerly a doctor in Columbia University's hospital system, was facing nine charges relating to sexual abuse allegations when he cut a deal with prosecutors in Vance's office in 2016.
Hadden was accused of groping, penetrating and licking multiple women. Hadden ultimately pleaded guilty to two charges of sexual abuse. Under the terms of the plea deal, he surrendered his medical license and served no prison time.
"Cyrus Vance got all the information he needed to respond appropriately for the victims," Solomon said Thursday. "Instead he did everything to ensure that Robert Hadden avoided jail time."


https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/23/us/hadden-accusers-call-for-vance-resignation/index.html


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This is an example how more than 20 women's sexual assault cases were handled by Cy Vance (Original Post) JohnSJ Jun 2021 OP
Plea deals are common in the criminal justice system. twin_ghost Jun 2021 #1
PLease Stop Me. Jun 2021 #5
How many sexual assault cases did Vance's department handle in total during those twenty cases? marble falls Jun 2021 #2
Vance Is A Disgrace Me. Jun 2021 #3
He has a lot of answering to do on a other issues also JohnSJ Jun 2021 #6
Thank You Me. Jun 2021 #8
I agree. JohnSJ Jun 2021 #9
Hope someone in the know will bluestarone Jun 2021 #4
See post 6 above which go into other issues from his office JohnSJ Jun 2021 #7
TY for this bluestarone Jun 2021 #10
The only thing I know is he won't run for another term JohnSJ Jun 2021 #11
The timing this post is curious, given that he's about to indict team Trump. pnwmom Jun 2021 #12
I don't think it is a coincidence pnwmom JohnSJ Jun 2021 #13
And it's not a coincidence that he is not running for re-election Sneederbunk Jun 2021 #15
"Why hasn't Vance indicted yet? What's taking so long? He's compromised and will never indict!" StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #20
What if he doesn't indict Team Trump? (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #14
I just posted the same thing before I saw your poat StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #19
And some people are trying to set other people up into being disappointed pnwmom Jun 2021 #23
I have had zero respect for him and my expectations BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #16
I said it before Jilly_in_VA Jun 2021 #17
Interesting how this is suddenly an issue the week that Vance is likely to indict TFG StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #18
Now i have someone i trust! bluestarone Jun 2021 #22
I have not personally liked Vance since learning he took a nice campaign donation from Trump's Karadeniz Jun 2021 #21
horrible Demovictory9 Jun 2021 #24

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
2. How many sexual assault cases did Vance's department handle in total during those twenty cases?
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 05:18 PM
Jun 2021

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. Vance Is A Disgrace
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 05:21 PM
Jun 2021

and the way he has added abuse to women who were already suffering is such a sorry tale . THat sob should be disbarred.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
6. He has a lot of answering to do on a other issues also
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 05:28 PM
Jun 2021

In 2012, Vance ordered his prosecutors to drop a promising criminal-fraud investigation against Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump, Jr., who were suspected of misleading potential buyers of condos in the Trump SoHo building; the order came after their father’s attorney, Marc Kasowitz, paid Vance a visit. Soon after Vance’s office dropped the investigation, Kasowitz donated and raised a combined total of more than fifty thousand dollars for Vance’s reëlection campaign.

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Immediately on the heels of those revelations came explosive reports, in this magazine and in the Times, of the film executive Harvey Weinstein’s alleged sexual harassment and assault of multiple women in the course of three decades. The reports spurred new scrutiny of the D.A.’s decision, in 2015, not to arrest and prosecute Weinstein for a misdemeanor sex crime, based on Ambra Battilana Gutierrez’s contemporaneous report to police that he groped her without her consent in his Tribeca office. Weinstein’s defense attorneys included Vance’s former law partner Elkan Abramowitz, who was also a donor to his campaign. Weinstein’s attorney David Boies (who did not represent Weinstein in the criminal matter) also donated to Vance in 2015. (Disclosure: I worked as a prosecutor in the Manhattan District Attorney’s office thirteen years ago, before Vance was the D.A.)

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Vance’s stomach for high-profile prosecution was tested early on, in the 2011 sexual-assault case against the French politician Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who, before his arrest, was the head of the International Monetary Fund. A maid who was cleaning the Sofitel New York hotel suite where Strauss-Kahn was staying reported to police that he had emerged naked from the bathroom and forced her to perform oral sex. The D.A.’s office indicted Strauss-Kahn and trumpeted the strength of the case. But the office later disclosed credibility problems with the complaining witness. Vance reversed course and decided to dismiss all criminal charges, announcing that his office was “unable to credit her version of events beyond a reasonable doubt, whatever the truth may be about the encounter.”


https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-didnt-manhattan-da-cyrus-vance-prosecute-the-trumps-or-harvey-weinstein

(There might be a paywall behind the above link)

Anyone thinking Vance will be the savior of democracy, I wouldn't count on it




Me.

(35,454 posts)
8. Thank You
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 05:32 PM
Jun 2021

thank heaven he's going to be gone. I'm waiting to see who takes over the office.

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
4. Hope someone in the know will
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 05:21 PM
Jun 2021

explain this, because i do not like this story IF it's true!

pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
12. The timing this post is curious, given that he's about to indict team Trump.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jun 2021

Did you notice that it was written in January 2020, and he's not running for re-election?

Sneederbunk

(17,488 posts)
15. And it's not a coincidence that he is not running for re-election
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jun 2021

Will he leave with a bang or a whimper?

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
20. "Why hasn't Vance indicted yet? What's taking so long? He's compromised and will never indict!"
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 07:56 PM
Jun 2021

This week, likely days or even hours from indicting "You KNOW you can't trust Vance, don't you?! Look at all the bad stuff he did."

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
19. I just posted the same thing before I saw your poat
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jun 2021

Very interesting how we've moved (likely only temporarily) from bashing Garland to going after Vance.

pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
23. And some people are trying to set other people up into being disappointed
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 09:24 PM
Jun 2021

even if the Trump org gets indicted.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
16. I have had zero respect for him and my expectations
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 07:41 PM
Jun 2021

regarding a full prosecution of tRump and co. are not very high. Vance is working for himself, no one else. I hope I'm wrong.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
18. Interesting how this is suddenly an issue the week that Vance is likely to indict TFG
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 07:50 PM
Jun 2021

Peculiar timing ...

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
22. Now i have someone i trust!
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 08:09 PM
Jun 2021

TY StarfishSaver. I wasn't sure about this, Now i'm in your corner! TYVM. (I trust you to the end)

Karadeniz

(24,746 posts)
21. I have not personally liked Vance since learning he took a nice campaign donation from Trump's
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 07:58 PM
Jun 2021

Lawyer and then decided not to prosecute Ivanka and Junior for misleading the public on property sales' figures, despite having the emails. When that bribe went public, he returned the bribe. I think the current legal abuses by the Trump organization are just too public for him to sweep under the carpet. I won't be heartbroken by his pending retirement!

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