Sunrise Movement threatening President Biden and issuing ultimatums. Funny thing is none of them....

[George II]

....can vote, and when they're old enough chances are Kamala Harris will be President.

Link to tweet

[Srkdqltr]

1. What do we want? We're not sure. When do we want it? Now.

[quaint]

3. +

[George II]

4. A bunch of 13-year olds saying if we don't get it now we won't vote for you in 2024!

[Budi]

6. K & R

Momentum Movement (Waleed Shahid) tells them how to think & what to say & who to target.

Momentum operates no different than a mega cult church.

[NurseJackie]

35. Precisely. Their ringleaders are no friends of the Democratic party.

It's a good object-lesson to illustrate the foolishness of being unwilling to compromise in search of the "perfect"... and being willing to starve one's self ---rejecting a slice of bread, or even a half-loaf--- because only a whole loaf of bread will do. Progress is progress no matter how small. As long as it gets us closer to the ultimate goal, then why would anyone intentionally do or say things to sabotage that progress? In the end, more times that not, the "all or nothing" philosophy results in achieving NOTHING and preserving the status-quo.

[Hortensis]

47. Maybe it's to be the dumbest poltical tool out there.

A lot of competition for the Most Clueless prize, but they're in the running.

[ProfessorGAC]

2. I Applaud Their Involvement

But where were they 8 months ago?
Biden is not the enemy. But, 8 months ago there was a squatter in the WH who was.
And, someone needs to explain to them that real life involves compromise to get something good. He didn't commit to ignore climate change. He just dropped it from this initiative.
Again, I'm glad these young people are involved. Their approach, however, is lacking.

[mcar]

5. Wonder if any of them have taken a civics class

Or even know who is actually blocking progress.

[Jedi Guy]

7. Or even know what a President can and can't do.

Some people have the idea that the President can simply assert how things are going to be, or better yet, wave a magic wand and just make it happen instantly.

[question everything]

8. Who are they and why should anyone listen to them?

Do they regret not voting for Trump, again?

[mopinko]

9. whose behind this crap?

smells soooo funny to me.

someone follow the money.

[George II]

16. Check Opensecrets.org for Justice Democrats PAC and Sunrise PAC. Your head....

....will spin with the way money is raised and spent, and "traded". They make it difficult to, as you put it, "follow the money".

For example, in the 2019/2021 cycle:

Sunrise PAC gave Justice Democrats $180,000
Justice Democrats gave Sunrise PAC $130,000

Also, Justice Democrats gave Justice Democrats Unlimited $875,000

The founders of both organizations are "intermingled" with some of the same people involved with both, as well as other peripheral organizations.

Both committees are now "Carey committees, hybrid PACs/super PACs", meaning they don't have to disclose all of their contributors, i.e. "dark money". They're also permitted to have independent expenditure in favor or against candidates, a la the Koch Brothers.

So, when you see candidates say they don't accept dark money or money from Super PACs, take that with a grain of salt.

Won't get into the nitty gritty, but Sunrise PAC contributed to 20 House candidates in 2020, Justice Democrats to 11 House candidates.

Plus Justice Democrats PAC spent more than $2 million in independent expenditures, Sunrise PAC almost $1 million.

[betsuni]

21. +1

[NurseJackie]

36. The original logo for the "Sunrise" movement was based on the "Justice Democrats" logo. Coincidence?

The founders of both organizations are "intermingled" with some of the same people involved with both, as well as other peripheral organizations.

The original logo for the "Sunrise" movement was based on the "Justice Democrats" logo. Coincidence? -- Not likely.

[George II]

39. All those organizations have common roots - Justice Democrats, Sunrise Movement, Our Revolution...

...Brand New Congress.

And now Justice Democrats and Sunrise Movement have changed their status, they're now "Carey" Committees, meaning they can collect unlimited amounts of cash from any entity and not disclose all the sources of their contributions.

Textbook definition of "dark money".

[NurseJackie]

40. 'Textbook definition of "dark money".' --- Indeed! The hypocrisy is staggering.

Textbook definition of "dark money".

Indeed! The hypocrisy is staggering.

[rgbecker]

10. So now DU comes out strong against teenagers protesting for action on Climate Change?

WTF?

[George II]

12. If that's the way you want to look at it, fine, but that's not true.

[tonedevil]

14. That's what I saw too. /nt

[George II]

20. Those teenagers are being used against the Democratic Party....

How many demonstrations did they hold outside the White House from January 2017 through January 2021?

[Marrah_Goodman]

17. Weird huh?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

30. Right in one.

[Mariana]

31. There's a lot of contempt toward young people on this site. nt

.

[Bettie]

38. Yeah there is

but say a single word about someone being kind of old and the same people get really, really angry.

Apparently, young people are horrible for wanting to, you know, have a future.

[George II]

42. That so-called "contempt" is not toward young people, but the dark money (i.e. Super PAC)....

....that is funding them.

It is beyond belief that those young people could afford to travel from all over the country to gather in front of the White House to demonstrate. Where did the money come from? Is it all "progressive" money?

The fact is they're funded by Sunrise Movement, which is a "Carey" committee - funded in part by undisclosed dark money. Essentially they're using teenagers to do their bidding.

With respect to "contempt", please read the message from Sunrise Movement, are you going to say that is not laced with "contempt" for the President?

This is hardly the work of "young people", but a group of undisclosed people out to cause disarray. It should also be noted that in the previous four years there was not one demonstration in front of the White House by Sunrise Movement. Curious.

[pnwmom]

32. When they're being used by the newly revamped greens,

in order to take down the Democrats.

[NurseJackie]

41. Nailed it!

When they're being used by the newly revamped greens, in order to take down the Democrats.

Nailed it! That's exactly what's happening. Their defenders and advocates act so wide-eyed and innocent... I'm not buying it. It's as phony as the "Sunrise Movement" or Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats" and "Brand New Congress". They're ALL anti-Democratic party.

[Sympthsical]

46. Anything vaguely on the Left is suspect to some

Teenagers protesting climate change, god forbid. They're only the ones who will have to deal with the consequences of our current inaction.

It's not like these persistent "get off my lawn" types who are forever excoriating progressives are going to be around for any of it.

They got theirs.

[rgbecker]

48. Apparently some on DU think this young lady is devil incarnate.

https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a26413809/varshini-prakash-sunrise-movement-interview/

Well, she is black and she does have non-English name...so there's that.

[Sympthsical]

49. Just look at her. She's probably a Russian spy

And full of her right-wing, pro-environment talking points.

You know, like Republicans do.

[Hortensis]

50. WTF is that they're opposing the Climate Action Party, not the GOP.

Don't imagine all young people are too stupid to know who've always been for and who've always been against stopping global warming. A or B. Only one party has ever lead and managed to achieve real action, always against the opposition of the other.

These kids show every sign of being the LW type who always claim to be for high ideals but must always oppose the powerful group with the ideals and plans to turn them into reality. They ARE a type, and every generation produces some. For most of these Sunrise unfortunates it'll turn out to be a lifelong curse -- every election they'll passionately emote over some LW issue, virtuously vote to defeat the LW party, and then despair over what's wrong with everyone else.

[tonedevil]

11. You kids stay off my lawn. /nt

[muriel_volestrangler]

37. We don't need no damn activists demanding faster action on a matter of life and death!

Who do they think they are, people with a future? The current generation in power is perfect. We all know that.

[George II]

43. If only they were "activists". If they were, why were they not demonstrating in front....

....of the White House for the last four years?

[muriel_volestrangler]

45. The definition of "activist" is not "been doing this for at least 4 years". But they were outside

the homes of Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, Larry Hogan, Bill Barr, and Betsy DeVos in 2020.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_Movement#Wide_Awake_campaign

Demonstrating outside the White House had, as you know, its own problems in 2020, thanks to the authoritarian hiding inside.

But remember, the reason you feel your lawn has a poor future is those damn kids on it who aren't allowed to vote, not the climate-induced drought.

[FreepFryer]

13. Wow, identical mass produced signs calling Biden a coward and everything.

I wonder who paid for it.

[yardwork]

15. Good question.

[George II]

18. For an overview, see my post #16. They're structured, along with Justice Democrats, to make it....

....very difficult to find out who exactly pays for things like this. They're both Hybrid Super PACs.

[Demsrule86]

25. We know that the Young Turks take GOP Money

[George II]

26. Russian money. And two guys affiliated with TYT (Uygur and Kulinski) founded Justice Democrats....

....and are, or were, involved with Sunrise Movement.

[Demsrule86]

29. Exactly, don't trust any of them.

[JI7]

19. It's a troll group

[betsuni]

22. "We want ... @POTUS and the admin to give a fuck." The adults telling them lies about Democrats

should be ashamed of themselves.

[vercetti2021]

23. Oh look slacktivism

I highly doubt these kids will vote ever. I'm sure they got paid to do this

[George II]

24. They certainly didn't do it on their own, and I'm sure no teenagers wrote those tweets....

This reminds me of the grandstanding outside Speaker Pelosi's office a couple of years ago and then the ambush of Dianne Feinstein outside her office a while back, too.

[vercetti2021]

28. Yep

These kids are being paid cash. Otherwise they wouldn't give a shit

[BlueLucy]

27. They were spreading propaganda known to have come from Putin during the election.

Has anyone checked where they get their money?

[FreepFryer]

33. Yup, George posted some details on reply #16. :)

[seaglass]

34. Their tactics turn me off. Not a fan of Dianne Feinstein but the video they released when they met

with her reminded me of Project Veritas.

I know they did a lot of work supporting Ed Markey's reelection and I believe they took credit for his win (and I think Markey also gave them credit) but as a MA resident I'm not so sure that the storyline put forth about how an incumbent beat a Kennedy is factual.

[George II]

44. They actually didn't "meet" with her, they accosted her outside her office. Then they compressed....

....a 10+ minute confrontation into a 2-minute video using the most damning isolated comment. When asked why they did that, they claimed "oh, Twitter only allows 2-minute videos", which was totally false. You see videos of 5, 8, 10 minutes all the time on Twitter.

The fact is they didn't want anyone to see EXACTLY what Dianne Feinstein said or what she offered to do for them.

Their tactics border on emulating those of Karl Rove and the right wing.