W.H.O. Urges Masking for the Vaccinated, in Split With C.D.C.
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June 29, 2021, 12:39 a.m. ET3 hours ago
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Another city in Australia enters a lockdown as the Delta variant spreads. Mixing vaccines from Pfizer and AstraZeneca provides strong immunity, researchers find.
World Health Organization officials, concerned about the easing of precautions meant to stop the spread of the coronavirus even as the most contagious variant to date has emerged, have urged even fully vaccinated people to continue wearing masks and to keep taking other measures to prevent infection.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, on the other hand, told fully vaccinated Americans in May that they no longer needed to wear masks indoors or to maintain a distance of six feet from other people. The agency also eased advice about testing and quarantine after suspected exposure to the virus.
Asked on Monday about the new cautions expressed by the W.H.O. — the world’s largest public health organization — a C.D.C. spokesman pointed to the existing guidance and gave no indication it would change.
More: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/06/28/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-mask
Bad move on the US CDC.
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Would I like to? Of course!
Those small inconveniences are not worth being infected, spreading this monster disease, or living with long-haul, which does occur in mild and asymptomatic cases.
Ty for posting this, OC. 
Wouldn't do anything differently. Idc what CDC says.
And I'm in the middle of redneck hell. I'm always the only one in a mask at grocery store, except employees.
Redneck hell.
It's a little blue spot amidst a whole lot of red.
You know, "I don't need no mask. I'm a big strong man" territory. 
They've even mostly stopped wearing masks here in New York where masks were absolutely required to enter any and all businesses until two weeks ago! Now the signs say that masks are only required for those that aren't vaccinated - right... 
Tyvmia!
I have been worried about what would happen when they started school in the fall. Many of the outbreaks that we've seen over the past year started at schools in the region. Even as recently as this spring, they canceled sports and after school activities at a school not far from me because of yet another outbreak there. 
And in my county, the age 12+ demographic is up to 71% vaccinated now. When I took my brother to get his second shot back in May, I saw some Moms with young teen kids coming out of the nearby state-run vaccine site - I noticed because a couple of them stopped outside and took photos. (And one kid had half green hair!) 
They shouldn't be going to school, period.
That's great that you have a 71% vaccinated rate with that age group, now. Most States don't.
I like hearing that parents and kids are proud that they've been vaccinated.
Stupid paywall.
As if anti-vaxers would be honest? 
And of course there's no way of knowing. And by requiring everyone to wear a mask every single place, there were no fights or skirmishes that we've seen in other places. By dropping the mandate prematurely, there's no way of shoving the genie back into the bottle, he's out and about for good. 
And we have our share of anti vaxxers even here in New York. I know two and I can't see any way of convincing them. One said, early on (when I was so excited that I'd managed to get my first shot!) that we "don't know what's in it" and he wasn't going "to be a guinea pig!" And the other is much older, has to be mid-80s (so he could have been eligible from the beginning), who said that his daughter is a nurse at the hospital and she isn't getting vaccinated and he gets his medical advice from her.
Yes, you are right. Most will not use common sense & revert to wearing masks.
Not that the type of masks people were wearing would do any good against delta.
Over the course of 1.25 years, I think I've seen one other person with a real mask on.
And I know that he's been out of town recently since his younger brother passed away. I have two friends who work at the local hospital and they were the very first I knew who got vaccinated. One has a clerical job and the other works with psych patients in the ER (and she has to be especially protected, wears a gown and has been double masked so tightly that it leaves marks on her face!). They both got a bonus for driving to a major hospital farther downstate to get the Pfizer early this year. I envied them the opportunity. So I don't understand how anyone who works in the hospital (where they just announced 5 new Covid cases!) can walk around not vaccinated! 
And she told me that a woman who was very helpful to her, worked at a local clinic for over 20 years, was let go for choosing not to be vaccinated. Why would anyone working in health care choose that?? 
Just no words beyond stupid & hypocritical. If they don't believe in science, why work there as a nurse?
Awesome about the kids! Thx for sharing.
He's pretty healthy and active for an 80+ year old.
Shame on her! 
Glad to hear he's healthy. Hopefully, he will stay that way.
Which would make him 84, depending on his birthday. And he's been through a lot, probably figures he's tough, but he should consider his age. But some guys are like that. And one would think a nurse would know better.
Sturgis with a side of delta! Vax rate in the area was around 35%. Doctor said he'd never seen anything like it.
I cannot wrap my head around the arrogance people exhibit. 
He was saying how people were denying covid as they were being hooked up to machines.
Yes, the science deniers / anti-vaxers / mask holes - who do they run to when they get sick? Scientists! Doctors!
I wish they could deny them service! 
Surreal! Shame they are obligated to try to save these morons.
Guns in hospitals? 😳🤯
And why argue with docs? They went to ER voluntarily!
Although it sounds like many belong in psych ward!
Spitting on docs? 
Who the hell in their right mind would be going on vacation in the middle of a ppandemic?
Until last week, no one was allowed to enter any local business, grocery, pharmacy, gas station, pet supply store, bank - anywhere at all - without a mask. Even Walmart - which was one of the strictest - had a mask checker at the single entrance. But now the signs say that only those who aren't vaccinated are required to wear masks! Geez! How reliable is that?! It just gives the anti vaxxers an excuse!
And I have the same fears. I'm just south of Lake George, New York, and the tourists show up in crowds from all over. Last year, everything was closed down all summer. But this year everything is "opening up" and they're advertising as such. Yesterday afternoon I drove through the main street that runs through Lake George Village and they're already here, crowds in the streets and traffic backed up - when I stopped for a light, the car in front of me was from Florida!
I cannot imagine going on vacation in the middle of a pandemic.
I really wish the virus could discriminate and only infect those who are so careless.
And what a shame. It sounds like your area was doing so well!
It already looked like it did every previous summer when it's packed for the summer months, big crowds packing the sidewalks and traffic is practically stopped because the throngs are trying to cross the main street - people with kids and strollers, flip flops and shorts. And I never really got the attraction, the lake is beautiful, but other than that, who wants to deal with the crowds and how many souvenirs do you need? It's mostly tee shirts and pizza.
I wouldn't do it. Not now or ever. 
Sorry you are subjected to that nonsense, now more than ever.
Are people just that unaware? Or just stupid? Idk.
I guess they don't read. But how could they not, esp when thinking of a vacation at this time?
Is the media covering delta?
I guess they trust what news they hear, that things are now "opening up!" So it must be "safe," right?? Delta has been in the news, but I don't think that most people follow the news as closely as we do here.
What's wrong with them? I know advertisers...
I cannot fathom blind faith that way. 
But how many people make it a point to check out the news and really listen? And you're right, it also depends on the source. I can't believe that that these propaganda sites are allowed to persist, disguised as "news." Most of us here remember Walter Cronkite and Huntley and Brinkley. But all that calls itself "news" these days is not equal. 
I think about you. And your sons. I'm just horrible about dropping communications when I'm dealing with an unrelated personal issue that's difficult for me to explain.
I love your great posts & recommended them when I see 'em. You're share really important info here. Thank you!
I think we all are to some degree. Hang in there, my friend.
"authority" that can shut down the 1%ers revenues.
And make that work for long...
You know tremendous pressure has been applied
to the cdc from the get go , to get positive news out of
Fauci. Stumpy killed 1000s last year telling everyone to
party hardy....right before Easter....
After a doc appt yesterday (too tired to cook). Had never been to this "highly" recommended restaurant before.
There wasn't a single masked person in the joint!! Not even waitstaff.
And oh my, were we stared at, being masked up! (Folks who are immunocompromised aren't given consideration. Even tho I'm fully vaccinated, I'm not taking a chance.) We should've just walked out.
It turned out to be a restaurant/sports bar full of rethugians, you could tell. (And the food was the worst seafood ever! Online recommendations can't always be trusted.)
People aren't taking this seriously enough!
Sending more hugs, my friend.
