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Johnny2X2X

(18,634 posts)
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:00 AM Jun 2021

BREAKING NEWS: Joe Biden got over 81 Million votes.

All I hear over and over on TV is that "75 Million people voted for Donald Trump."

Well it wasn't 75 Million, it was 74 Million. And what about those 81 Million + that voted for Joe Biden? How come we aren't doing human interest pieces on the "hidden Biden voter"???

And why do they keep rounding up to 75 Million for Trump, Biden was closer to 82 Million than Trump was to 75 Million.

Biden-Harris 81.268,924 votes

Trump-Pence- 74,216,154 votes

So sick of people acting like 74 Million Trump voters are a big story, but 81 Million Biden voters aren't. Where are the "forgotten Americans" stories on Joe Biden's 81 Million voters? This group of people came out and took America back from the brink of a dictatorship, each and everyone of these voters deserves a thank you.

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BREAKING NEWS: Joe Biden got over 81 Million votes. (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 OP
Also the Former Office Occupant loves to say he got more votes than any other sitting President. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2021 #1
More votes than any other sitting president doesn't mean crap if you opponent got more... brush Jun 2021 #10
Ya know who else got more votes than any other sitting President? subterranean Jun 2021 #19
+1000 Very well said. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2021 #62
"more votes than any other sitting President" - Yes, that's often how population growth works. NullTuples Jun 2021 #36
During the Cold War Soviet and U.S. dragsters raced head-to-head. The Soviets lost -- by a lot. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2021 #43
That's a really good play on words. dmr Jun 2021 #46
During the last term... Mike Nelson Jun 2021 #2
+++ KPN Jun 2021 #5
++++. n/t iluvtennis Jun 2021 #20
+++++. calimary Jun 2021 #66
Exactly seta1950 Jun 2021 #7
Agree Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #8
Amazing, isn't it? moose65 Jun 2021 #18
I of course voted in 2004 but I don't remember the campaign & election much NullTuples Jun 2021 #39
After seeing what Ken Blackwell did in Ohio RVN VET71 Jun 2021 #51
So much was swept under the rug. NullTuples Jun 2021 #58
YUP! There have NEVER been more Trump voters than anti-Trump voters. But you wouldn't know it! AleksS Jun 2021 #12
And they are under the illusion they outnumber the majority. dmr Jun 2021 #47
If I Feel Lonely I'll Put On A Red Hat And Wait For Reporters To Show Up smb Jun 2021 #23
No matter how bad the republicans screw things up KS Toronado Jun 2021 #3
Haven't you heard? Those Biden votes were from Aliens and China. Somehow millions of them managed appleannie1 Jun 2021 #4
TFG says that it's mathematically impossible for Biden to get 81 million votes! robbob Jun 2021 #11
Good one appleannie1 Jun 2021 #14
Yes, this is true PatSeg Jun 2021 #26
And Italy. wnylib Jun 2021 #30
ALREADY CONFIRM ' D IT WAS ALL BULL - SHIT ------ BIDEN WON ! END OF STORY !! monkeyman1 Jun 2021 #6
Yes, we took the nation back from the hands of an out-of-control lunatic, wannabe dictator. brush Jun 2021 #9
The Silent Majority Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #13
Every time I hear the 74 million number I think about this! Nictuku Jun 2021 #15
excellent llashram Jun 2021 #16
Seems the gripe here is with the national media and its distorted, twisted reporting of facts Mr. Ected Jun 2021 #17
media needs a horserace spanone Jun 2021 #21
And, of course let us not forget that 66 MILLION IS MORE THAN 63 MILLION !!!!!!! groundloop Jun 2021 #22
74 is the best WA-03 Democrat Jun 2021 #24
Joe rocks it. Joinfortmill Jun 2021 #25
Breaking news from who? Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #27
"liberal" media sources like Fox News reported this. It's "common knowledge" AZLD4Candidate Jun 2021 #35
Let's dance. shenmue Jun 2021 #28
Why are Trump voters worth more than Biden voters? IronLionZion Jun 2021 #29
So it's time to complain to the media. wnylib Jun 2021 #31
To me, Trump's 74 million voters are a story ... Martin Eden Jun 2021 #32
See AM radio. Fox News. Sinclair broadcasting. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #41
After Seeing Brian Stelter's Clip About Watching Sean Hannity's Show for A Week erpowers Jun 2021 #72
I'm all for freedom of the press but that also means that the press has a responsibility to police Yavin4 Jun 2021 #74
According to Rand Paul, 2Gingersnaps Jun 2021 #33
As I've been pointing out since Election Day Eve (and in the immortal words of Condi Rice) Rocknation Jun 2021 #34
An important point, there gratuitous Jun 2021 #42
Trump lovers say he got 100M. Yes, they really say it oldsoftie Jun 2021 #37
Maybe Biden voters don't eat at Diners. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #38
Well said, and I blame a lot of this on our illustrious media JohnSJ Jun 2021 #40
81 MILLION Americans beat back red state purges and suppressions in 2020, and WILL ancianita Jun 2021 #44
Agree! UCmeNdc Jun 2021 #45
K&R ck4829 Jun 2021 #48
We have a tendency to round big numbers to 5s and 10s if they get within 1 thesquanderer Jun 2021 #49
0 through 4 gets rounded down; it's 5 through 9 that should be rounded up. Rocknation Jun 2021 #52
That's the rule for tens, but that's not what I'm talking about... thesquanderer Jun 2021 #55
refuKKKchickens hate minorities - being a minority drives 'em bugfuck bringthePaine Jun 2021 #50
Why doesn't the news spend more time explaining to the public how dems in the senate Johonny Jun 2021 #53
Right there with you, Johnny 2X2X. BadgerMom Jun 2021 #54
If we can license doctors and attorneys, hold them to certain standards Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #56
Maybe we tweak the approach... Half-step Jun 2021 #57
Works for me! ShazzieB Jun 2021 #60
Works for me! ShazzieB Jun 2021 #61
I think it is because a lot of people voted against Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Jun 2021 #59
Suck it Donny you fat piece of shit Blue Owl Jun 2021 #63
So sick of those 81 million people begging for scraps RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2021 #64
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2021 #65
Well I don't watch TY.. I read on DU Cha Jun 2021 #67
When I hear the 75 million figure, I've got a bit of boilerplate that I post. GoneOffShore Jun 2021 #68
THANK YOU! BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #69
I agree totally. Nexus2 Jun 2021 #70
K&R betsuni Jun 2021 #71
It's about the end of truth Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #73
TFG, the incumbent, LOST by over SEVEN MILLION VOTES. spanone Jun 2021 #75
Exactly. Cinnamonspice Jun 2021 #76
The attention that 74 million gets is because there has never been close to that kind of support... BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #77

Tommy Carcetti

(43,053 posts)
1. Also the Former Office Occupant loves to say he got more votes than any other sitting President.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:00 AM
Jun 2021

Well, Joe Biden's the sitting President now, and he got more votes than him, so...

brush

(53,331 posts)
10. More votes than any other sitting president doesn't mean crap if you opponent got more...
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jun 2021

votes than you. That seems to be a concept trump can't comprehend. But we already know he's nuts so...

subterranean

(3,426 posts)
19. Ya know who else got more votes than any other sitting President?
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:54 AM
Jun 2021

Barack Obama
George W. Bush
Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon
LBJ
Dwight Eisenhower
FDR

Except they didn't go around boasting about it.

I guess TFG can rightfully claim that he was the first to get more votes than any other sitting President and still LOSE.

43. During the Cold War Soviet and U.S. dragsters raced head-to-head. The Soviets lost -- by a lot.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:58 PM
Jun 2021

The Moscow paper headline read, "Soviets Place Second in Race Against U.S. -- American Car Comes in Next to Last."

I think Putin told Fat Donnie how to frame the election results.

dmr

(28,312 posts)
46. That's a really good play on words.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 02:24 PM
Jun 2021

It took me a moment to get it. Why? Because it's not expected. Their arrogance was meant to belittle the US.

Anyway, it was a good play on words, and easy to get past a casual reader.

Mike Nelson

(9,881 posts)
2. During the last term...
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:10 AM
Jun 2021

... the one where Hillary won the vote & The Donald won the Electoral College to become president, the media always reminded us of the Trump voters. They were important, dammit! I don't recall anyone too concerned about the Hillary voters - and they were the majority!

seta1950

(932 posts)
7. Exactly
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jun 2021

The media kept talking about trump voters , bernie voters, but no one seemed to care about Hillary voters, who elected Biden, enough we are the majority.

Johnny2X2X

(18,634 posts)
8. Agree
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:22 AM
Jun 2021

And to this day we hear about Biden reaching out to Trump voters or how what he does will play with Trump voters. I don't remember hearing a thing about how Trump should reach out to Hillary voters or how what he did would play with Hillary voters.

We are the majority, we have proven that in 7 out of the last 8 Presidential elections.

moose65

(3,162 posts)
18. Amazing, isn't it?
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jun 2021

Since 1992, Republicans have only won more votes in the Presidential election once, in 2004. George W. Bush got about 3 million more votes than Kerry. Since 2004, it hasn't even been close:

2008: Obama beat McCain by 9.5 million votes.
2012: Obama beat Romney by 5 million votes.
2016: Clinton beat Trump by 3 million votes.
2020: Biden beat Trump by 7 million votes.

The people want a Democratic president.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
39. I of course voted in 2004 but I don't remember the campaign & election much
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jun 2021

I still helped (for what it matters in CA), but I think I still felt so dejected about the Supreme Court blatantly handing over the presidency to Bush I figured, "what does it matter, if they're going to be able to cheat and get away with it?".

One of the reasons I harp on the Dems for not holding Republicans accountable for every time they cheat by breaking or changing the rules or simply breaking the law.

RVN VET71

(2,686 posts)
51. After seeing what Ken Blackwell did in Ohio
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 04:36 PM
Jun 2021

and Karl Rove’s possible link to the death of Mike Connell who had just been subpoenaed to testify against Rove -- an expert pilot, his plane crashed after having had recently been serviced -- convinced me that Kerry would actually have won the election had it been run fairly.

Funny, though. I don’t remember thousands of unwashed and unshaven Democrats descending on the Capitol to “stop the steal."

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
12. YUP! There have NEVER been more Trump voters than anti-Trump voters. But you wouldn't know it!
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:32 AM
Jun 2021

You'd never guess that Trump voters were always the minority share. But they always have been.

smb

(3,449 posts)
23. If I Feel Lonely I'll Put On A Red Hat And Wait For Reporters To Show Up
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jun 2021

(No, not really. I can't imagine being that lonely!)

KS Toronado

(16,711 posts)
3. No matter how bad the republicans screw things up
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:13 AM
Jun 2021

Right wing media is going to spin as they won something or was cheated while playing the victim.

appleannie1

(5,028 posts)
4. Haven't you heard? Those Biden votes were from Aliens and China. Somehow millions of them managed
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:13 AM
Jun 2021

to get passed poll workers and vote illegally.

robbob

(3,512 posts)
11. TFG says that it's mathematically impossible for Biden to get 81 million votes!
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:29 AM
Jun 2021

And he’s really really really good at math! Some say the best!!!

🤪

PatSeg

(46,559 posts)
26. Yes, this is true
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jun 2021

He has a very big brain and no one knows more about votes than him, that is why HE ALONE can determine who the winner was.

brush

(53,331 posts)
9. Yes, we took the nation back from the hands of an out-of-control lunatic, wannabe dictator.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:22 AM
Jun 2021

It's becoming more and more obvious how close trump is to incoherence.

llashram

(6,263 posts)
16. excellent
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:40 AM
Jun 2021

The popular vote sunk the orange slime this time... TheFG needs to concede, take Carlson with him and retire to some desert island with just enough food for one... slime buckets, BOTH and Murdoch too...

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
17. Seems the gripe here is with the national media and its distorted, twisted reporting of facts
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jun 2021

As long as a free press is affected and influenced by a profit motive, it may be free, but it isn't honest and it doesn't advance democracy. In truth, it thwarts it.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,011 posts)
24. 74 is the best
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jun 2021

Like golf - lowest score wins right? No? Donny just got his games mixed up. Honest mistake. Let’s have the election again tomorrow and see what happens.

IronLionZion

(45,162 posts)
29. Why are Trump voters worth more than Biden voters?
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 12:47 PM
Jun 2021

Because rural white people are worth more than urban or minority voters or white liberals. Why are they worth more is the real question.

This is a great opportunity for white liberals to ask why their votes are worth less than white conservatives. Or for the swing voters to be asked why they left Trump to vote for Biden. That is some human interest that is worth learning about.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
31. So it's time to complain to the media.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 12:58 PM
Jun 2021

E-mail them. Call them. Let them know how we feel. If enough of us complain, the media might actually listen to us.

Martin Eden

(12,786 posts)
32. To me, Trump's 74 million voters are a story ...
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jun 2021

... because that many people voting for a pathologically lying malignant narcissist who is mentally and morally unfit for any position of public authority points ro a real problem in the American electorate.

Of course, it's a matter of HOW this story is covered.

Trying to normalize Trump and his voters only serves to validate him and them. Coverage needs to start with the premise that Trump is an abomination.

Yavin4

(35,310 posts)
41. See AM radio. Fox News. Sinclair broadcasting.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jun 2021

Right wing propaganda outlets are numerous and cover a vast amount of people. The only counter to that empire is social media which does have a lot of conservatives but is not 100% under the control of conservatives which drives them nuts. They can only deal with media outlets that never pushes back on their bullshit.

It's not a surprise that 74 million Americans fell for Trump given this amount of right wing media power.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
72. After Seeing Brian Stelter's Clip About Watching Sean Hannity's Show for A Week
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 08:42 AM
Jun 2021

Last edited Wed Jun 30, 2021, 08:36 PM - Edit history (1)

After seeing Brian Stelter's clip about watching Sean Hannity's show for a week I can understand what you are saying. If you have been told not to watch channels like CNN and MSNBC and the only places you get your information from are AM radio, Fox New, and Sinclair broadcasting stations you can end up being misinformed.

I was seeing Republicans tweet about how horrible things are in American cities and I would think where are these people getting this information and their news. I then looked at Brian Stelter's clip and thought, "now I know why there are people claiming American cities are currently a disaster."

I think there was a large number of misinformed people voting in the 2020 election. I think a number of people voted for Trump based on false information. There was one woman who stated she used to vote for the Democratic Party until she learned about the Democratic Party pedophile scandal. How many more people were like that woman? How many people voted for Trump because they were told and believed Joe Biden was a secret Socialist? How many people voted for Trump because they were told and believed Joe Biden was in mental decline?

Yavin4

(35,310 posts)
74. I'm all for freedom of the press but that also means that the press has a responsibility to police
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:10 AM
Jun 2021

itself. Brian Stelter's piece is important because only other media outlets can call out other media outlets for broadcasting bullshit as news. Only they can set standards.

One way for sane media to deal with Fox News, OAN, and Newsmax is to ban employees who work there from working at traditional media outlets.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
33. According to Rand Paul,
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:00 PM
Jun 2021

the party of perpetual grievance is subject to the tyranny of the majority. Wonder where that was the last four years?

Rocknation

(44,546 posts)
34. As I've been pointing out since Election Day Eve (and in the immortal words of Condi Rice)
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Wed Jul 6, 2022, 01:30 PM - Edit history (14)

what "nobody could have anticipated" was 26 million people voting Democrat or Republican in 2020 who DIDN'T vote in 2016. That's where Duh Don got the 11 million votes that boosted him to 74 million. Unfortunately for him, the rest of those 26 million votes are what boosted Biden to 81 million!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14890483


Rocknation

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
42. An important point, there
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jun 2021

While there were 26 million more votes cast in 2020 than in 2016, Biden outpolled the former guy by 15-11, which contributed to Biden beating him in the popular vote in 2020 even worse than Clinton did in 2016.

Lurking beneath that fact is the additional fact that of 26 million additional voters in 2020, Biden won 58%-42%. The former guy didn't do anything to get a larger percentage of the popular vote during his four year term, and got clobbered in both the popular and electoral votes.

oldsoftie

(12,376 posts)
37. Trump lovers say he got 100M. Yes, they really say it
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jun 2021

I've seen it several times on FB.
With NOTHING to back it up. But what else is new

ancianita

(35,704 posts)
44. 81 MILLION Americans beat back red state purges and suppressions in 2020, and WILL
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jun 2021

DO IT AGAIN IN 2022!

YO, MEDIA! WE 81 MILLION ARE THE STORY!

JOIN THE SANE SOCIETY!

JOIN THE 21ST CENTURY!



thesquanderer

(11,937 posts)
49. We have a tendency to round big numbers to 5s and 10s if they get within 1
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jun 2021

So having people look at 74.2 and round it to 75 is not surprising.

thesquanderer

(11,937 posts)
55. That's the rule for tens, but that's not what I'm talking about...
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jun 2021

...rather, I'm talking about what people *do* .

If you had $74.12 in your pocket (or 74 and some change), and someone asked how much money you had on you, it is likely you'd say, "about $75." It is doubtful that you would round that figure down to $70.You probably wouldn't even round it down to $74. We "gravitate" toward certain numbers. That's what I'm talking about.

Johonny

(20,610 posts)
53. Why doesn't the news spend more time explaining to the public how dems in the senate
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 04:39 PM
Jun 2021

represent vastly more people than the rethugs or the house districts for that matter. Why not spend more time demonstrating how the majority is treated like a minority to keep a broken system in place.

Mr.Bill

(24,030 posts)
56. If we can license doctors and attorneys, hold them to certain standards
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 06:01 PM
Jun 2021

and revoke those licenses for malpractice, why can't we do the same for journalists?

Just a thought off the top of my head. Obviously, a lot of details would have to be worked out. But there is precedent for licensing the practice of constitutional rights.

Half-step

(78 posts)
57. Maybe we tweak the approach...
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 07:41 PM
Jun 2021

.... To simply point out that Joe got 9.5% more votes than Donnie. We could even say 10% more votes (I mean, if we are rounding up).

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,633 posts)
64. So sick of those 81 million people begging for scraps
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jun 2021

it's not like they run all the government

We still need to get rid of the stupid electoral college !!!!!



GoneOffShore

(17,303 posts)
68. When I hear the 75 million figure, I've got a bit of boilerplate that I post.
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 04:38 AM
Jun 2021

On 20 January 2021 at 12h00 EST - Joseph R Biden became the 46th President of the United States.
Biden - 81,282,376 votes - 306 electoral votes
#LOSER45 #IMPOTUSx2 - 74,222,576 votes - 232 electoral votes
All 50 states- results officially certified
On 7 January 2021 the United States Congress officially certified the election of Joseph Biden, despite attempts by the fascists and supporters of authoritarianism who stormed the Capitol.
#LOSER45 1 for 63 or more attempts to subvert the election
#LOSER45 0 for 18 attempts to overthrow the will of the majority of the electorate in Georgia
#LOSER45 #IMPOTUSx2 Impeached twice and the vote to convict was 57-43 despite various spineless Republicans, who are afraid of crazies like Ammon Bundy et al.
And he and his feckless toady the Shite Pillow Guy are STILL banned from Twitter and Facebook.
Let's add up the totals, shall we?
81,282,376 Americans cast their votes for Joseph R Biden.
1,865,720 Libertarians voted for Joke Jorgenson.
405,034 Green votes against #IMPOTUS45x2.
Adding those totals gives us 83,553,130 who did not vote for #LOSER45 #IMPOTUSx2
He is indeed the biggest #LOSER45 - He lost by 9,330,554 votes.
I’m going to repeat that, because it's so delicious - He lost by 9,330,554 votes!

Please to Remember
The third of November
We voted out Treasonous Trump
There is no reason
That Donald Trump Treason
Should ever be forgot.

BumRushDaShow

(126,616 posts)
69. THANK YOU!
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 05:00 AM
Jun 2021

I've been yelling this for months.

The media likes those who falsely gloat, particularly when it comes from those who they think generate entertaining clown shows. But their repetitive coverage only amplifies the falsehoods as if they are actually legitimate. That's what happens when you combine the entertainment and news rooms under the same management umbrella.

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
70. I agree totally.
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 05:21 AM
Jun 2021

All the clamor about how the "75 million American votes (where are the other from?) can't be ignored, silenced or cancelled" or what ever is annoying as Hell. Like non-followers of Mad King Mango of Mar-a-logo don't count as people as far as having a voice or even rights.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,530 posts)
77. The attention that 74 million gets is because there has never been close to that kind of support...
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jun 2021

...for a loser. Let alone an abject failure at everything he's turned his hand to, beyond riling up the clems.

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