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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING NEWS: Joe Biden got over 81 Million votes.
All I hear over and over on TV is that "75 Million people voted for Donald Trump."
Well it wasn't 75 Million, it was 74 Million. And what about those 81 Million + that voted for Joe Biden? How come we aren't doing human interest pieces on the "hidden Biden voter"???
And why do they keep rounding up to 75 Million for Trump, Biden was closer to 82 Million than Trump was to 75 Million.
Biden-Harris 81.268,924 votes
Trump-Pence- 74,216,154 votes
So sick of people acting like 74 Million Trump voters are a big story, but 81 Million Biden voters aren't. Where are the "forgotten Americans" stories on Joe Biden's 81 Million voters? This group of people came out and took America back from the brink of a dictatorship, each and everyone of these voters deserves a thank you.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,053 posts)Well, Joe Biden's the sitting President now, and he got more votes than him, so...
brush
(53,331 posts)votes than you. That seems to be a concept trump can't comprehend. But we already know he's nuts so...
subterranean
(3,426 posts)Barack Obama
George W. Bush
Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon
LBJ
Dwight Eisenhower
FDR
Except they didn't go around boasting about it.
I guess TFG can rightfully claim that he was the first to get more votes than any other sitting President and still LOSE.
Rhiannon12866
(202,167 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,531 posts)The Moscow paper headline read, "Soviets Place Second in Race Against U.S. -- American Car Comes in Next to Last."
I think Putin told Fat Donnie how to frame the election results.
dmr
(28,312 posts)It took me a moment to get it. Why? Because it's not expected. Their arrogance was meant to belittle the US.
Anyway, it was a good play on words, and easy to get past a casual reader.
Mike Nelson
(9,881 posts)... the one where Hillary won the vote & The Donald won the Electoral College to become president, the media always reminded us of the Trump voters. They were important, dammit! I don't recall anyone too concerned about the Hillary voters - and they were the majority!
calimary
(80,521 posts)She got more votes.
Period
The media kept talking about trump voters , bernie voters, but no one seemed to care about Hillary voters, who elected Biden, enough we are the majority.
And to this day we hear about Biden reaching out to Trump voters or how what he does will play with Trump voters. I don't remember hearing a thing about how Trump should reach out to Hillary voters or how what he did would play with Hillary voters.
We are the majority, we have proven that in 7 out of the last 8 Presidential elections.
moose65
(3,162 posts)Since 1992, Republicans have only won more votes in the Presidential election once, in 2004. George W. Bush got about 3 million more votes than Kerry. Since 2004, it hasn't even been close:
2008: Obama beat McCain by 9.5 million votes.
2012: Obama beat Romney by 5 million votes.
2016: Clinton beat Trump by 3 million votes.
2020: Biden beat Trump by 7 million votes.
The people want a Democratic president.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)I still helped (for what it matters in CA), but I think I still felt so dejected about the Supreme Court blatantly handing over the presidency to Bush I figured, "what does it matter, if they're going to be able to cheat and get away with it?".
One of the reasons I harp on the Dems for not holding Republicans accountable for every time they cheat by breaking or changing the rules or simply breaking the law.
RVN VET71
(2,686 posts)and Karl Roves possible link to the death of Mike Connell who had just been subpoenaed to testify against Rove -- an expert pilot, his plane crashed after having had recently been serviced -- convinced me that Kerry would actually have won the election had it been run fairly.
Funny, though. I dont remember thousands of unwashed and unshaven Democrats descending on the Capitol to stop the steal."
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)It feels like this happens every time Republicans are in control.
AleksS
(1,665 posts)You'd never guess that Trump voters were always the minority share. But they always have been.
dmr
(28,312 posts)smb
(3,449 posts)(No, not really. I can't imagine being that lonely!)
KS Toronado
(16,711 posts)Right wing media is going to spin as they won something or was cheated while playing the victim.
appleannie1
(5,028 posts)to get passed poll workers and vote illegally.
robbob
(3,512 posts)And hes really really really good at math! Some say the best!!!
🤪
appleannie1
(5,028 posts)PatSeg
(46,559 posts)He has a very big brain and no one knows more about votes than him, that is why HE ALONE can determine who the winner was.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)brush
(53,331 posts)It's becoming more and more obvious how close trump is to incoherence.
Johnny2X2X
(18,634 posts)There is a silent majority, Democrats.
Nictuku
(3,560 posts)llashram
(6,263 posts)The popular vote sunk the orange slime this time... TheFG needs to concede, take Carlson with him and retire to some desert island with just enough food for one... slime buckets, BOTH and Murdoch too...
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)As long as a free press is affected and influenced by a profit motive, it may be free, but it isn't honest and it doesn't advance democracy. In truth, it thwarts it.
spanone
(135,586 posts)groundloop
(11,482 posts)WA-03 Democrat
(3,011 posts)Like golf - lowest score wins right? No? Donny just got his games mixed up. Honest mistake. Lets have the election again tomorrow and see what happens.
Joinfortmill
(14,132 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,536 posts)shenmue
(38,497 posts)IronLionZion
(45,162 posts)Because rural white people are worth more than urban or minority voters or white liberals. Why are they worth more is the real question.
This is a great opportunity for white liberals to ask why their votes are worth less than white conservatives. Or for the swing voters to be asked why they left Trump to vote for Biden. That is some human interest that is worth learning about.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)E-mail them. Call them. Let them know how we feel. If enough of us complain, the media might actually listen to us.
Martin Eden
(12,786 posts)... because that many people voting for a pathologically lying malignant narcissist who is mentally and morally unfit for any position of public authority points ro a real problem in the American electorate.
Of course, it's a matter of HOW this story is covered.
Trying to normalize Trump and his voters only serves to validate him and them. Coverage needs to start with the premise that Trump is an abomination.
Yavin4
(35,310 posts)Right wing propaganda outlets are numerous and cover a vast amount of people. The only counter to that empire is social media which does have a lot of conservatives but is not 100% under the control of conservatives which drives them nuts. They can only deal with media outlets that never pushes back on their bullshit.
It's not a surprise that 74 million Americans fell for Trump given this amount of right wing media power.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 30, 2021, 08:36 PM - Edit history (1)
After seeing Brian Stelter's clip about watching Sean Hannity's show for a week I can understand what you are saying. If you have been told not to watch channels like CNN and MSNBC and the only places you get your information from are AM radio, Fox New, and Sinclair broadcasting stations you can end up being misinformed.
I was seeing Republicans tweet about how horrible things are in American cities and I would think where are these people getting this information and their news. I then looked at Brian Stelter's clip and thought, "now I know why there are people claiming American cities are currently a disaster."
I think there was a large number of misinformed people voting in the 2020 election. I think a number of people voted for Trump based on false information. There was one woman who stated she used to vote for the Democratic Party until she learned about the Democratic Party pedophile scandal. How many more people were like that woman? How many people voted for Trump because they were told and believed Joe Biden was a secret Socialist? How many people voted for Trump because they were told and believed Joe Biden was in mental decline?
Yavin4
(35,310 posts)itself. Brian Stelter's piece is important because only other media outlets can call out other media outlets for broadcasting bullshit as news. Only they can set standards.
One way for sane media to deal with Fox News, OAN, and Newsmax is to ban employees who work there from working at traditional media outlets.
2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)the party of perpetual grievance is subject to the tyranny of the majority. Wonder where that was the last four years?
Rocknation
(44,546 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 6, 2022, 01:30 PM - Edit history (14)
what "nobody could have anticipated" was 26 million people voting Democrat or Republican in 2020 who DIDN'T vote in 2016. That's where Duh Don got the 11 million votes that boosted him to 74 million. Unfortunately for him, the rest of those 26 million votes are what boosted Biden to 81 million!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14890483
Rocknation
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)While there were 26 million more votes cast in 2020 than in 2016, Biden outpolled the former guy by 15-11, which contributed to Biden beating him in the popular vote in 2020 even worse than Clinton did in 2016.
Lurking beneath that fact is the additional fact that of 26 million additional voters in 2020, Biden won 58%-42%. The former guy didn't do anything to get a larger percentage of the popular vote during his four year term, and got clobbered in both the popular and electoral votes.
oldsoftie
(12,376 posts)I've seen it several times on FB.
With NOTHING to back it up. But what else is new
Yavin4
(35,310 posts)Would explain why NY Times reporters cannot find any.
JohnSJ
(91,807 posts)ancianita
(35,704 posts)DO IT AGAIN IN 2022!
YO, MEDIA! WE 81 MILLION ARE THE STORY!
JOIN THE SANE SOCIETY!
JOIN THE 21ST CENTURY!
UCmeNdc
(9,584 posts)ck4829
(34,905 posts)thesquanderer
(11,937 posts)So having people look at 74.2 and round it to 75 is not surprising.
Rocknation
(44,546 posts)rocktivity
thesquanderer
(11,937 posts)...rather, I'm talking about what people *do* .
If you had $74.12 in your pocket (or 74 and some change), and someone asked how much money you had on you, it is likely you'd say, "about $75." It is doubtful that you would round that figure down to $70.You probably wouldn't even round it down to $74. We "gravitate" toward certain numbers. That's what I'm talking about.
bringthePaine
(1,725 posts)Johonny
(20,610 posts)represent vastly more people than the rethugs or the house districts for that matter. Why not spend more time demonstrating how the majority is treated like a minority to keep a broken system in place.
BadgerMom
(2,765 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,030 posts)and revoke those licenses for malpractice, why can't we do the same for journalists?
Just a thought off the top of my head. Obviously, a lot of details would have to be worked out. But there is precedent for licensing the practice of constitutional rights.
Half-step
(78 posts).... To simply point out that Joe got 9.5% more votes than Donnie. We could even say 10% more votes (I mean, if we are rounding up).
ShazzieB
(15,788 posts)ShazzieB
(15,788 posts)Skittles
(152,918 posts)not necessarily for Joe
Blue Owl
(49,737 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(2,633 posts)it's not like they run all the government
We still need to get rid of the stupid electoral college !!!!!
SunSeeker
(51,295 posts)Cha
(295,516 posts)in tweet probably that it was "81 Million"!!
GoneOffShore
(17,303 posts)On 20 January 2021 at 12h00 EST - Joseph R Biden became the 46th President of the United States.
Biden - 81,282,376 votes - 306 electoral votes
#LOSER45 #IMPOTUSx2 - 74,222,576 votes - 232 electoral votes
All 50 states- results officially certified
On 7 January 2021 the United States Congress officially certified the election of Joseph Biden, despite attempts by the fascists and supporters of authoritarianism who stormed the Capitol.
#LOSER45 1 for 63 or more attempts to subvert the election
#LOSER45 0 for 18 attempts to overthrow the will of the majority of the electorate in Georgia
#LOSER45 #IMPOTUSx2 Impeached twice and the vote to convict was 57-43 despite various spineless Republicans, who are afraid of crazies like Ammon Bundy et al.
And he and his feckless toady the Shite Pillow Guy are STILL banned from Twitter and Facebook.
Let's add up the totals, shall we?
81,282,376 Americans cast their votes for Joseph R Biden.
1,865,720 Libertarians voted for Joke Jorgenson.
405,034 Green votes against #IMPOTUS45x2.
Adding those totals gives us 83,553,130 who did not vote for #LOSER45 #IMPOTUSx2
He is indeed the biggest #LOSER45 - He lost by 9,330,554 votes.
Im going to repeat that, because it's so delicious - He lost by 9,330,554 votes!
Please to Remember
The third of November
We voted out Treasonous Trump
There is no reason
That Donald Trump Treason
Should ever be forgot.
BumRushDaShow
(126,616 posts)I've been yelling this for months.
The media likes those who falsely gloat, particularly when it comes from those who they think generate entertaining clown shows. But their repetitive coverage only amplifies the falsehoods as if they are actually legitimate. That's what happens when you combine the entertainment and news rooms under the same management umbrella.
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)All the clamor about how the "75 million American votes (where are the other from?) can't be ignored, silenced or cancelled" or what ever is annoying as Hell. Like non-followers of Mad King Mango of Mar-a-logo don't count as people as far as having a voice or even rights.
betsuni
(25,060 posts)Johnny2X2X
(18,634 posts)Trump got 74 Million votes, don't let them get away with saying 75 Million votes.
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-people-voted-for-trump-in-2020-election-2021-6
spanone
(135,586 posts)Cinnamonspice
(163 posts)There are 168.31 million people registered to vote in the United States.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/273743/number-of-registered-voters-in-the-united-states/
BobTheSubgenius
(11,530 posts)...for a loser. Let alone an abject failure at everything he's turned his hand to, beyond riling up the clems.