Does DeSantis Have Any Culpability In The Condo Collapse?.....

[global1]

You know if there was a Dem Gov in FL - the Repugs would find a way to blame him/her.

[SoCalDavidS]

1. If He Does, He's Working On Covering It Up

He's going to be the repub nominee in 2024, so he's going to make sure nothing changes that. He's not going to end up like Chris C.

[global1]

5. I've Heard That A Lot About DeSantis & 2024.....

How did he get so far up the Repug chain in order to be considered the 2024 nominee?

Is it just that the people of FL want to get rid of him as their Gov?

[FBaggins]

14. That's straightforward enough

Governor of a large swing-ish state. Previous federal office (in the House). National name recognition. Some popularity among the base. Some military service

[getagrip_already]

16. being out front this early is a curse......

All the focus will be on him, and most will be negative. Plus, tfg will take him down several notches just because.

[SoCalDavidS]

20. I Think Drumpf Is Going To Support Him

Drumpf is just looking to Grift until he finally announces he's not running in 2024.

But he'll want a Mini-Me to get the nomination, and he's buddy buddy with DeSatan.

I definitely can see an endorsement ahead of the election, if not the primaries.

[jimfields33]

7. He was 3 years old in 1981.

He was not in office during the 2018 inspection. I’m not sure how he can be blamed unless the mayor, building inspectors, city council, and a whole lot of others join him.

[getagrip_already]

18. if he deregulated building inspections, cut funds for engineers and inspectors, or

otherwise made it easier for owners to put off critical repairs, there should be blowback.

Will it hurt him? Doubtful in FL. National? Like tfg, he has so many scandals you just can't get anyone to focus.

[Chainfire]

2. As much as I despise the man

He can't be blamed for the collapse of the building. That may not be true for local officials; time will tell.

[Lochloosa]

3. Not really.

[OriginalGeek]

4. I doubt this one

but give him time. He'll be happy to deregulate something that would affect building inspections and hinder mass-exploitation of the coast.

[Ocelot II]

6. Probably not.

This is the sort of thing that takes years to develop. I would have loved to have pinned the I-35 bridge collapse on that dickwad Tim Pawlenty, too, but that wasn't his fault either (he sure took credit for rebuilding it quickly, though - in time for the '08 election).

[FBaggins]

8. How?

The building was constructed long before he was in office and building codes and their enforcement are largely a county responsibility.

[ScratchCat]

9. Nobody does

This is one of those things where people are unfortunately going to have to accept that its nobody's fault. A potential problem was identified as they commonly are. A remedy was proposed. An assessment was passed. They were going to start repairs. Nobody - not one person - believed the building was in eminent danger of collapsing? Why? Because buildings don't fall like that. The fact that buildings don't fall like that due to the issues identified removes any and all legal liability. That's just how its going to have to be. Nobody could have known that was going to happen.

[zipplewrath]

22. Everybody does

You're right, but unfortunately what that really means is that "everybody" does. That is to say that "everybody" from the people that designed and built the place, to the people charged with maintaining it, as well as the residents that were resistant to paying for the needed repairs and upkeep. But because "buildings don't fall like that", "everybody" feels free to ignore problems, delay action, and otherwise dismiss valid concerns about these things. And don't kid yourself, that attitude affects the inspectors as well who are loath to declare a building unsafe or demand quick or immediate repairs to buildings.

It's the corollary to the person that keeps driving with the check engine light on. They do so because they believe the worst thing that will happen is that the engine won't start some day, not that it will burst into flames while they are driving.

It costs money to own things. And part of that cost is having insurance. What do ya wanna bet many of the people living in those remaining condos are uninsured?

[Phoenix61]

10. It's years of Republican rule that allowed developers

to dictate everything. The only reason building codes changed at all was Hurricane Andrew. If they hadn’t the state would have had to insure everybody. My house was built in 1948 and I trust it more than one built in the 70’s or 80’s. Nothing like aged heart of pine 2x4’s that are really 2”x4”.

[GulfCoast66]

23. Until 2000 the state was usually run by democrats.

And most of these codes are local. No matter the party in control of South Florida is has been corrupted for decades.

You are correct about old homes. Our first one in Downtown Orlando built in 39. They did not have engineering studies so overbuilt them like crazy. Our roof and attic trusses were 2x6’s, real ones of heart pine put in 18 inch spacing. You could not nail and hardly drill into them. The roof beam were multiple 2x10’s nailed together. Went thru the eye of Donna in 60 and Charlie in 04 with no damage.

The guy we sold it to tore it down and put up a MacMansion. Would love to have all that old timber.

[Me.]

11. He Did Relax Gov. Regulations In 2018

and building was indcluded in that but I don't know if they have anything to do with what happened.

[jimfields33]

21. He was sworn in as governor January 8, 2019

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.naplesnews.com/amp/2512180002

[Me.]

25. Good Catch

Obviously the bill he signed in 2020 wouldn't apply

https://www.flgov.com/2020/06/30/governor-ron-desantis-signs-the-occupational-freedom-and-opportunity-act-to-remove-unnecessary-barriers-to-employment/

[ananda]

12. Do birds shit from the air?

His shit is all over this.

[Ritabert]

13. While you can't blame him for this specific incident

.....he did hold a "deregathon" summit in 2019. The goal was to cut back on regulations involving building standards, condo board regulations, barbering, construction contracting licenses, veterinary medicine, and other areas. So he could be responsible for problems in the future.

[moondust]

29. Downplaying the need for regulations

by advocating for their repeal is likely to cause some "big gubment" haters and profiteers to consider regulations a needless burden and ignore them. There are probably some of those types working in the construction industry.

[Stinky The Clown]

15. It doesn't matter if he does or not. Our job is to pin it on him

I said a while back that we need to start fighting dirty. I think we need to start a campaign to connect him to the collapse I don’t care how peripherally that connection might be Michael but it needs to be an easy connection.

[Sympthsical]

26. Telling obvious, stupid lies isn't our job

If you're going to go dirty, at least be somewhat smart about it. A 40 year old building with years of problems isn't going to get pinned on a guy who's been in office since 2019.

No one's going to buy into that except for the most extreme partisans. And were they to make the attempt, the average person would start questioning the reality tether of the person making the claims.

There are going to be a lot of people at fault here, but DeSantis isn't going to be one of them. Why burn political capital on it? It'd be dumb.

[Stinky The Clown]

30. Thanks but no thanks for your advice.

This is why we lose. This is why they kick our asses. We need to fight back.

[KG]

17. I'll allow it.

[rockfordfile]

19. What will happen he will try to lie about the cause.

It won't work.

[ProfessorGAC]

24. I Don't See How

He wasn't governor when the inspection regime changed & the building was 38 years old when he took office.
He's a loathsome slimeball but I don't see how this hangs on his neck.

[JCMach1]

27. As much as I hate him, no... It's the stench of decades of corrupt Republican

Policies favoring development and developers

[brooklynite]

28. Building codes and inspections are a local matter.