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spooky3

(34,444 posts)
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 11:21 PM Jun 2021

Everyone has the right to speak about the Cosby case, but

I think MSNBC and other networks should think very hard about inviting people other than female lawyers to discuss the recent decision at this time. Women were the victims of Cosby's drugging and assaults and are disproportionately (by far) victims of other rapists' actions. Research shows they are more likely to experience unfairness in the legal system. There will be time for male lawyers and pundits to speak about this later, but the majority simply cannot experience this in the same way that many women do, and we FIRST need to hear from female lawyers and others.

An analogy would be if immediately after racist shootings or other incidents, the experts trotted out on the networks to comment were white.

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Everyone has the right to speak about the Cosby case, but (Original Post) spooky3 Jun 2021 OP
The women are not through with Cosby. Sneederbunk Jun 2021 #1
I understand your point, but it depends on the nature of the conversation. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #2
I am disgusted and angered, uriel1972 Jun 2021 #3
But the "explanation of the legal issues" is not independent of people's personal experiences spooky3 Jul 2021 #4
I'm going to push further than I normally do on DU. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #5
Does that include the three TraceNC Jul 2021 #6
Hush! You're messing up the narrative GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #7
Sometimes personal trauma can affect a person's... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #8

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
2. I understand your point, but it depends on the nature of the conversation.
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 11:47 PM
Jun 2021

If all they want is an explanation of the legal issues I don’t think it matters.

And men can be, and many are equally discussed and angered by his actions.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
3. I am disgusted and angered,
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 11:53 PM
Jun 2021

But I also recognise the importance of letting women speak as too often their voices are ignored or suppressed.

I sm hsppy to take a back seat on this one.

spooky3

(34,444 posts)
4. But the "explanation of the legal issues" is not independent of people's personal experiences
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jul 2021

and values, as much as we would all like for it to be. (Look at how differently the individual SC justices would describe certain legal issues, as an example). It's not like mathematicians' explaining a proof.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. I'm going to push further than I normally do on DU.
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 12:32 AM
Jul 2021

Not that I’m that invested but it’s a discussion worth having.

My wife has never been sexually assaulted. Nor is she aware of anyone in her family who has been. But I have a close relative who was and saw the emotional damage it causes. Who has the best personal experience to talk about it?

Taken to this arguments end then only female legal experts who have been sexually assaulted should be put on air in this time. I’m not against that.

But if we are strictly explaining the legal reasons for a decision I don’t think it matters. Other people of good will may disagree.

Now, on the other hand, while my wife has never been sexually assaulted, she is over 60’s and remembers when females were treated way differently than now. So if you are making the argument that understanding patriarchy I could agree. But I also in the workforce then and it pissed me off at the time. Because the woman were normally more competent than the men but had to do twice as much as be treated equally.

Interesting discussion worth having.

Have a nice evening.

TraceNC

(254 posts)
6. Does that include the three
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 12:38 AM
Jul 2021

women lawyers who appeared alongside Cosby today outside his home and spoke on his behalf, one of whom argued the appeal before the judges?

They are introduced at the 1:25 mark in this video.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
8. Sometimes personal trauma can affect a person's...
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 02:28 AM
Jul 2021

... judgement, though.

I had a female coworker who once proclaimed to me that over 90% of children were sexually assaulted by their parents. I scoffed and ridiculed that bizarre estimation by her, based on nothing. I later learned that she was assaulted as a child by her father, and then her weird notion made more sense to me. Not her estimation of the prevalence, but why she might think that way.

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