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[Klaralven]

1. Wonder how many words for hate there are in each of the worlds most widely spoken languages?

Are some languages less hateful than others?

[abqtommy]

32. First, I'd like to award you The Ribbon Of Sanity for this thread. I have the url of a website

that lists written/spoken slurs in many languages. It's a world population thing and I won't provide the
url here. But besides written and spoken language there's also physical gestures of contempt that
are also a world population thing. Where do we start to fix this and can we? If we as individuals can
overcome the hate then that may be the best we can do.

[Klaralven]

43. The number of words for love might also be of interest.

A relationship must exist.

But love tends to be more particular, while hate tends to be more general.

[abqtommy]

53. That's a good thought.

[boston bean]

64. You want to fix misandry?

[abqtommy]

75. Not necessarily. There's a lot of people that deserve to be hated. I just wanted to define it.

[boston bean]

82. You wanted to define it. Why? Didn't the dictionary already do that for you?

[betsuni]

2. Misandry was a popular bullshit word here for a while. Why I started commenting and stopped lurking.

Search on DU (Men's Group). Ridiculous.

:

[ProfessorGAC]

9. If It's Any Consolation...

...I just checked & that group is a ghost town.
I saw 1 post since March & probably less than 10 in the last year.
I'm not sure I ever posted anything there, and it's definitely not one of my subscription on DU.

[EYESORE 9001]

11. I just glanced around there for the first time

Surprising how many have been PPRed, FFRed, or not agreed to Terms of Service. A sad, tawdry place IMO.

[boston bean]

103. Lumberjack Jeff and a bunch of them. But he is gone from here now and he was insufferable.

[Metatron]

106. I forgot all about that sexist jerk

He was a total troll.

[betsuni]

107. The one I hated most named himself after an ape. Lied about leaving the U.S.

in 2009 because he claimed to be so disappointed by Obama when in reality he'd left years before because he said he didn't want his taxes funding the military.

[hlthe2b]

111. Bonobo?

[betsuni]

114. Yes.

[obamanut2012]

17. That group should never have been allowed

Skinner ignored women's legit concerns, and that group became exactly what we thought it would be, with the usual suspects. MRA Group on here was literally the same as allowing a White Pride or Straight Rights group.

[boston bean]

62. Ayup. Still not over it. As it still exists in some form, as displayed by this OP. Out of the blue

a day after a fucking serial rapist was released on a technicality.

It is not lost on me the timing of this. Trolldom as far as I am concerned.

[BradAllison]

104. There are a lot of groups that wouldn't be proud of their old posts from the late 20 aughts.....

The tide has terf.....errr, turned since those days.

[hlthe2b]

110. Yes... It was amazing the amount of perceived victimization there.

Most of the regulars are gone, it appears.

[boston bean]

3. The day after a male serial rapist is released from prison

You want to educate DU on the hatred of men.

One word for you. Misogyny.

[zuul]

4. +1

[mercuryblues]

7. +1

[smirkymonkey]

24. +1000

[LizBeth]

37. +1

[we can do it]

41. Let's go all caps MISOGYNY.

So sick of sniveling pigs.

[obamanut2012]

5. Misandry is the same as straight pride

Or white pride. Just stop this mra crap.

[uriel1972]

6. Word used by MRA's to try and shut up any woman who

dares to express any kind thought.

[Scrivener7]

8. Misandry: a word used by closeted MRA morons that outs them

as MRA morons, but they have no idea that their use of the word tells everyone that they are an MRA moron.

It is quite a useful term that way.

[Bucky]

10. or should it be "misterandry"?

[abqtommy]

12. Interesting responses so far. I had to look up the acronym MRA since I'm obviously late to

the party. MRA (as used in some responses here) stands for Men's Rights Activist or Activists.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/mra

But my original meaning search showed at least 250 other definitions. See those search results here:

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=define+acronym+MRA&ia=web

I don't see any reason why any given gender of persons, or skin color or age of persons should
qualify them to be free from hatred or approval, for that matter. Please continue, I'm getting a real
education today.

[obamanut2012]

13. Lolz

[uriel1972]

14. MRA's are to women

are as White Supremacists to any one they don't think is white enough in other words bigots on steroids.

[Mister Ed]

15. Hot topic on DU circa spring of 2014.

We had quite a lot of perfectly charming gentlemen calling themselves Men's Right's Activists (MRA's) coming to the board to express their angst at the unfair treatment of men in our society. Why do we devote so much thought to misogyny, they asked, while ignoring rampant misandry?

Their avowed concern for the rights and well-being of men appeared to me to be a (very) thin disguise for their hatred of women in general and feminists in particular.

[lapucelle]

16. Understanding the broader context of today's by election helps with understanding

why the use of that word in this context is a red flag.

This is Jo Cox's former seat, and RT darling George Galloway is working very hard to hand it to the Tories.

[muriel_volestrangler]

105. Thank you for pointing that out; the good news is that Jo Cox's sister won

and the people in the constituency who wrote the post claiming 'misandry' lost:

Labour’s Kim Leadbeater wins narrow victory in Batley and Spen byelection

Labour won 13,296 votes with the Conservatives recording 12,973, according to official results. Kim Leadbeater defeated Ryan Stephenson, the Tory candidate, by 323 votes. George Galloway, representing the Workers party of Britain, came third with 8,264 votes.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/02/labour-candidate-kim-leadbeater-wins-batley-and-spen-byelection

It was the tactics of Galloway's supporters ("Workers Party" my eye) that the claim of "misandry" was trying to defend.

[lapucelle]

108. And thank you for sharing the news about Kim Leadbeater winning and Labor holding that seat.

You're absolutely right about where the claim of alleged "misandry" was coming from.

[ismnotwasm]

27. You should take a gander at the incel forums as well.

[boston bean]

31. Educate thyself.

[Ohio Joe]

57. 'Why I had no idea'

[LizBeth]

58. You do not see why black people might hate? I do not see how a black person would not hate.

Two decades ago having a conversation with a friend I asked why she didn't and I would be mad ALL the time and pat her on the back for not. Today is so much more.

[Caliman73]

126. It isn't about "free from hatred" or "approval". It is about power and attribution.

Misandry is a real term and a real concept. Some people do have a general hatred of men.

What you are experiencing here is the response from people who perceive the relative power differential regarding the concept of misandry v. misogyny.

When you bring MRA into the situation, it elevates the problem to greater heights.

You are right, no gender or skin color should entitle people to special treatment. The problem is that history AND the present show that Men, and specifically White men have been given enormous amounts of privilege compared to women and men of color. To say something "color" or "gender" blind is to slap people who have experience real discrimination because of those characteristics, in the face.

Men do get the short end of the stick in some situations. The problem is that MRA's attribute that to Feminism and think that We are victims of some conspiracy to exploit us. The reality is that we exploit each other. Those of us with power, exploit those of us with less power. Women do not have the economic, legal, social, or cultural power to exploit men in any meaningful or systemic way.

So when people talk about "misandry" like it is a major problem, it tends to get people who suffer that oppression based on their gender, upset.

[abqtommy]

129. "Misandry" is a word that drew my interest so I defined it. Whatever people decide to do

with/about it is up to them. And here on my original op/thread I deal with the aggressive and
argumentative people as best I can.

[LizBeth]

131. Hey, thank you. This is a very clear and concise post. You said it well.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. Do you usually select a Word Of The Day?

[obamanut2012]

19. Especially one routinely used by bigots?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

20. .

[Sneederbunk]

21. Misandry and misogny, both wrong.

[obamanut2012]

22. lolz

[treestar]

25. So what is your rule?

That it is impossible to hate people on a group basis if you can deem their group the privileged one?

It actually makes sense - the more you suffer from sexism, the more likely you might hate men. But then there are fair minded people in the world, who take each person on their own merits rather than generalize, which was the very problem complained of initially. We did not want to be generalized against as women, unable to do math or fly planes just because we were women. So how do we justify judging men as a group?

[abqtommy]

30. As I understand it, mysogeny is sexism directed at women and to me all sexism is wrong and

non-productive. Hatred of men is an entirely other matter. In my life I've known men that I rightfully
hated, beginning with my own father. But that was for things he said and did and not because he was male. Thanks for your input.

[boston bean]

33. Because it is not a thing.

Period end of story. What suffering are men experiencing from women who hold less power than them? Because one person may hate a man. Or many women may hate men, what are the repercussions how does it affect men as a whole?

To me, a man claiming misandry is usually trying to keep a women in her place when she complains of the treatment they are doling out or societal ills regarding women as a whole. In other word misogyny.

[treestar]

38. Ok but it does not justify hating men

in general. Some people just react without using any judgment. This man may be doing as you said, but that man might just be hated out of the box due to being a man. You can feel sorry for a woman who does that because of how other men treated her. It's still not the goal, though, or anything we want to do or agree with just because it seems that turnabout is fair.

[LizBeth]

44. I want to hear the argument of blacks just hating whites out of hand or white cops out of hand to

hear what that sounds like.

[LizBeth]

46. It doesn't matter. Regardless of an individual hating all white or all men

It doesn’t affect that group as a whole because blacks and women do not have the power and control over a whole group of peoples. There is not the same affect. It cannot be argued. It’s one individual that doesn’t like the whole group. But for a racist or a misogynist to be implemented in our system, in our laws, In the way we live our daily life is a whole other story.

[obamanut2012]

47. It. Is. Not. A. Thing.

Give us one actual example of it. Just ONE.

[Jedi Guy]

109. Of course it's a thing.

It's just on an individual or small group level as opposed to a societal level, and therefore has less widespread and pernicious effects.

As an example, I worked for a woman who very clearly didn't like men. The guys on staff got all the shit assignments, all the shit schedules, and if a man's vacation request conflicted with a woman's request, the woman got the time off. Every single time.

Is that as bad or as widespread as the societal impacts of misogyny? Clearly not. Did it still suck for the guys on the staff? It sure did.

[obamanut2012]

34. There is no such thing as misandry

It is a misogynistic construct.

Indivudal men, or even small groups (ie the Proud Boys) can be hated, but there is no social and legal construct to hate men, as there is women.

If you think there is,. educate yourself, because only misogynists think that.

[treestar]

40. So as long as you can identify as an oppressed group

the oppressor group cannot be prejudged? That does not follow. Overly black and white thinking. A lot of men are feminists, they don't deserve to be hated and that being said does not make "lolz" a good response.

I see why people want so much to belong to a victimized group and to assert that their group is still victimized. Mere victimization gives one a moral high ground, and so there is no "social or legal construct" to hate anybody based on a surface characteristic.

I'd rather claim equality and insist on it no matter how many misogynists proclaim it is impossible. To them there is no social or legal construct for female presidents or pilots.

[Sympthsical]

45. That is the gist of it

There are cohort of ideological people who believe women cannot be sexist and anyone non-white cannot be racist. That whole "power + privilege" construct was so people could be abusive, racist, and sexist but never have to answer for it. "I can't be that, because I'm X!"

Under this construct, I, as a gay man, can be as abusive and bigoted as I want towards straight people (and that's a lot of people). Doesn't matter. I'm gay! You can't call me out. So, neener!

I mean, it defies all common sense. Of course anyone can be sexist or racist or bigoted. But, it became a catch-all excuse to be abusive. "I can't be an asshole! I have an ass!" Sure, Jan.

Though MRA's are a problem. It was ok when it first, first started. Because it was largely about things like family courts, which are heavily, heavily tilted against men.

Then the whole thing went off the rails, then came the incels, then forget it. It's a whole toxic thing now.

[obamanut2012]

49. No, that is not what any of us are saying, and you know it

It is literally the same as "Straight people are oppressed!" or "Straight Pride."

[Sympthsical]

54. It's not

There's the "in theory" and then there's the "in practice."

In theory, it may be as you say. In practice, it goes as I said very commonly. I have seen some egregiously racist shit said about white people here. Never gets hidden. Only rarely gets called out. And I mean racist.

"Can't be racist!"

Yes. Yes, it can.

[LizBeth]

56. Not saying can't be, saying it does not hold a power and control over groups of others.How they live

their lives, how they are treated, the wage they earn, being arrested, murdered and raped. Where they can buy a home, do yard work in their yard or walk their dog. And the systematic, learned hate affect every part of their live and how they ive.

So what if a black is hatefilled against whites or a woman hates men. So what? So what if we have a whole culture of hating women in laws and institutions and religions? BIG difference. Right? Can you argue otherwise? You want it comparative?

[treestar]

71. It does show there is no principle for equality though

It's saying "if my group were in power, we'd oppress you" which only motivates the upper handers to want to keep it that way. Whereas refraining from that shows you really want equality.

[LizBeth]

77. No. You dismiss a whole history of male domination and sublimation of women to create where we sit

today. And there is not the mass of male hating women with a good number of men weighing in with the attitude/belief also. Not written in religions preached upon daily and weekly and forever. No, you scenario could and would never be by women simply having power.

[boston bean]

78. You are in an alternate reality. There are oppressed groups. Defend those groups.

Not some fringe meaningless nothing burger.

[Sympthsical]

121. Your attitude is reckless, though

Oppression isn't a contest. What bothers me about threads like these is, you get people saying the same thing. Rotely. Dogmatically. As an ex-Catholic, I recognize it. It's almost no longer dogmatic ideology, but an article of faith. When the ideology starts hedging into a quasi-religious space. "No misandry, no misandry, no misandry." I mean, is there a hymnal that gets passed around before starting the thread?

Oppression isn't a competition. You do what you can where you can to combat it. Is misandry anywhere near the level as misogyny? Of course not. Misogyny is institutionalized. It's systemic. But for people to say it doesn't exist at all?

That's nonsense and against all objective evidence and common sense.

You say so what? And that's exactly my point. I come at this from a much different perspective. I'm a higher up in HR. I have to give a shit. People on the internet? Don't have to give a shit. There's this brilliant quote by Catherine the Great. In response to a philosopher who was giving her advice on governance, she replied, "You write on unfeeling paper. I write on human skin, which is far more ticklish."

You can say whatever you want, because it doesn't matter. You can think that "So what?" because it has no effect on the real world at all.

I, on the other hand, get to deal with the actual fall out of your ideas.

Back when I first started at my current company, I had a head of a department who was a manager. She would only ever promote other women and give them the best projects. One of my staff noted it to me when I first began. Being new, I just thought I'd observe for a while, not go in swinging. Sure enough, I noticed the same thing.

Fast forward a bit. We were at some lunch function for managers. We were sitting together and having wine. We'd been pretty friendly until that point. Now, the thing about being a gay man is, women sometimes treat me socially as if I'm also a woman in some ways. Usually it's innocuous. "Oh, don't you just hate men?" That sort of harmless stereotypical thing. Like we're girlfriends. No idea why, but sure.

At the time, there was an opening for an internal promotion in her department, and I asked about a male co-worker. He'd been there for a long time, was good at his job as near as I could tell. So I asked why not him. She made a face and said, "I don't work well with men. They're too . . . *negative hand gesture*" I pressed a bit more, and she had more to say about working with men. It was not good.

She said this to me. The head of HR. Seriously.

That's misandry. That's her exercising her power to keep down her male coworkers, to prohibit their advancement. So to see people in this thread, "Oh, it doesn't exist. It's not a problem. If it happens, who cares?"

I care. I have to care. It's my job to care. People with your attitude make it harder for me, make it harder for all of us. What is it about, "Just don't be an asshole to people," is so. freaking. difficult? And not only that, when you defend that behavior or excuse it away, it tells me 1. Some people just aren't as responsible for their actions as others (which is sexistly and racistly patronizing as hell) and 2. Discrimination isn't that big a deal as long as we target it appropriately.

If you don't know what's wrong in all of that, I don't know what to tell you.

[LizBeth]

124. Surprise, men with an issue also have an issue with women bosses. Reckless? Lol

[Sympthsical]

134. You literally manufactured that out of thin air

I hope you're not saying I have an issue with women bosses. My boss is a woman. She's probably on my favorite bosses I've ever worked with. Who, by the way, completely supported me when I moved to correct the issue and put notes in the file. I'm saying this manager was a problem. And I outranked her on these things. She wasn't my boss.

What is it, when there's no point to be made, some just fall back to claim the other person is some kind of -ist or "has an issue."

Literally didn't rebut anything. Just made a disparaging claim.

That's what I mean. Real world vs internet world. Claim -ist and pretend you've won an argument. Wouldn't really work in a workplace. At least, not mine.

Twitterworld must be nice.

[LanternWaste]

74. You move goalposts more consistently than any poster I'm aware of.

As well as arguing against points no one is making.

[Sympthsical]

123. Just put me on ignore then

You never actually answer any of my points. You just meta-comment without substantive examples of what you're on about.

I don't see the purpose in responding at all. You've never responded in any way that engages conversation. You do this to a lot of people.

[obamanut2012]

48. Give us one example of "misandry" -- just one

You can't.

[Zeitghost]

55. I can

I'm not going to go into specifics of my family life or upbringing or the contributing factors. My mother had her own demons to deal with and part of that was what could very accurately fit the description of misandry. It has had a lifelong affect on me.

I don't think that makes me oppressed as a man. It doesn't discount the evils of misogyny in our society. It doesn't mean that there are the same structural and institutional bias against men that exist against women. But it also doesn't mean that there are some people who, for a variety of reasons, hate men or that there are men who suffer because of that hate.

If you have not experienced this in your lifetime, consider yourself lucky, but, before you "lolz" next time, don't discount the experience of those who have.

[boston bean]

66. Your mom hated men and that was her reason for being a shitty parent to you?

Many people have shit upbringings. In fact in my early years I was beaten and strangled by my father many times.

I still was able to love a man and give birth to one.

But I truly hate the misogyny in this culture which has historically been perpetrated by men over millennia and is so engrained in our subconscious and culture most people can’t see it. When explaining this it does not make one a man hater. But that is what is usually thrown back in our faces. As in….Oh. You just hate men. You are a misandrist………

And I gotta say this OP has very peculiar timing.

[treestar]

72. How is that impossible?

Live in the real world or one not so biased.

Maybe look at some divorce cases.

Or extreme feminist tracks, where men are all rapists.

Or anyone who has a bad time dating. We often hear complaints about men in this regard. Yet the next one you meet, you should hardly generalize they will be just like the others, as people are individuals. And that's what women wanted, to be judged as individuals, not as "women" who can't fly planes, do math, be professionals, etc. and who "choose" to get lower paying jobs.

[boston bean]

76. OVERALL. Women do not have that power of men. However men do have that power in society.

And that doesn’t mean women should have that power. But that men should not.

As a WHOLE. Not small or individual cases.

Hell. There are men and women I don’t like. That isn’t what is being discussed here.

[LizBeth]

79. No feminist has said men are all rapist. Not a one.

[boston bean]

80. Here we are. Fighting MRA ideology.

I hate it! What is so hard for people to understand. They just dismiss history, society, culture… you know the reality of women. And then say we are saying all men are rapists. It’s a circle jerk.

[LizBeth]

81. Yes.

[Sympthsical]

122. I can easily.

The post I just made:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215580462#post121

How was that example not misandry?

[obamanut2012]

125. No, that isn't misandry -- there si literally NO SUCH THING

Maybe in some ancient society, but not in any society we have knowledge of, including our own.

"Misandry" isn't being mean to a man, or even a group of men (ie "I hate frat bros). Trying to make it a complement to misogyny is not only hysterical funny, it is, in itself, rank misogyny. Get it? Thinking misandry is actually a THING is misogynistic.

Ger back to me when men get paid much less trhan women for their job, or when a woman gets her sentence overturned for drugging and raping pver 50 men, etc.

No longer playing this game.

[Sympthsical]

133. There's no point in discussing further

Just as I don't debate the finer points of the Bible with Evangelicals.

A dogmatic belief is a dogmatic belief.

We can both spend our Friday more wisely.

[uriel1972]

35. We are not judging men as a group...

we are judging MRA's as a group, whose behaviour is not a stones throw from White Supremacists. When women, rightly, comment on the inbuilt barriers to advancement, justice and equality for women the MRA response is "Misandry and Meritocracy' in such volume to drown out reasonable discussion.

In regards to 'Merit' see the critiques of structural racism from CRT. The inbuilt barriers to women are not too different in nature to the inbuilt barriers to those set up by racists now and in the past. The word 'Misandry' is analogous to the words 'Reverse Racism' in this context. In other words a big 'RED FLAG'.

I will grant you the courtesy of considering you simply ignorant of the pain you are causing through continuing on your merry trip around vocabulary. Now you have been made aware of it I suggest you let it go. You can continue to think what you will, but stop poking people with sticks and just leave it be.

[treestar]

39. Pain?

Good God. People need a thick skin to have a discussion these days. If I were that easily hurt, I'd probably be told to stay off the internet.

Then you agree not to judge anyone as a group.

[obamanut2012]

50. Okay, I get your angle now.

You know what you are doing and saying.

Finished replying to you.

[boston bean]

86. This was a rude response to a very thoughtful and caring post.

[Nexus2]

90. No...

Apparently one is wrong and the other does not, indeed, cannot exist.

Oh andt thinking otherwise and using it marks you as moron... and/or a misogynist.

[Caliman73]

127. Yes they are.

They are not however, equal in either quantity or power.

A simple statement like "Misandry and misogyny both wrong" is like saying , "Racism against Black people and White people, both wrong"

Who do you think suffers more as a result of that racism? Which group has more power in society to effect that racism into systems of discrimination? As a concept, racism is wrong, but when people make simplistic statements they discount the VERY disparate consequences of those concepts in context.

Misogyny has resulted in death and misery in countless lives. Men hold most of the power in most countries. If a woman hates men, she can personally make some men's lives difficult, even kill a few of them. Up to 100,000 women were killed for being "witches" from the 15th through 17th centuries because "women are weaker and more susceptible to the devil".

Women don't send men to war. Women do not make men work in dangerous jobs. Other men do that because men have the political, legal, social, and economic power to do it.

SO, yes they are both wrong, but be careful that you do not trivialize the struggle of women in making your point.

[LizBeth]

132. +1

[lapucelle]

23. My selection for Word of the Day...

https://www.guernicamag.com/rebecca-solnit-men-explain-things-to-me/

[treestar]

26. Mansplainers can't comprehend the

parts on the lower left -- they can't believe it possible!

[ProfessorGAC]

29. Good One!

That flow chart is nicely done, too.

[zuul]

28. +1

[Nexus2]

89. Going by this flow chart, I've had more women 'mansplain' to me that women.

But it does provide a clearer definition than I had heard before...

[littlemissmartypants]

119. Might want to proofread this. nt

[LizBeth]

36. Another rapist walks and you decide we need education on the counter word for men?

[Elessar Zappa]

42. And?

[Nexus2]

93. At least locally, the reaction to Cosby's conviction being over turned is really split

fairly sharply along racial lines in a manner somewhat similar to the O.J. verdict. But aspects vary such as the nature of the charges against Cosby definitely sways how people are reacting perhaps as to an equal degree as ethnicity or even more so.

[MineralMan]

51. Yes, that's what it means.

It's yet another form of generalized bigotry. What prompted you to bring it up today?

Does it exist? Of course it does. Is it wrong? Of course it is. There are words to describe all sort of specific bigotry. Bigotry, pretty much, is wrong. All of it. There is no good bigotry.

[obamanut2012]

52. No, MM, it does not exist

I am disappointed in you. You usually really support women, and don't fall for things like the "misandry" thing. It literally doesn't exist.

[MineralMan]

67. On an individual basis, it does exist, and usually for good reason.

It's not general, of course, but there are people who hate men.

I don't fall for anything, really, especially general statements that something with a name doesn't exist.

[boston bean]

69. You are describing androphobia.

[NickB79]

83. Isn't that a fear of men, vs a hatred of men?

I mean, I have arachnophobia, but I don't feel hatred for spiders.

[boston bean]

84. You said for good reason. What would be a good reason? Maybe fearing them?

[NickB79]

87. Yes, I can see fear morphing into hatred quite easily

But when it goes from fear to hate, describing it as a phobia feels.... insufficient. Like when people who verbally or physically attack LBGT people are called homophobic. They've gone from avoiding homosexuals to actively confronting them. It stems from a fear response, but now it seems bigger than that.

However, I'm at a loss to think of any examples of true misandry that I've read about in American society.

[boston bean]

88. If they identify a very large and powerful church around for centuries that preached misandry

I will give this some credence.

[MineralMan]

99. Fear and hatred are different things,

and require different words. So, there are different words which mean different things. I do understand words quite well, thanks.

[boston bean]

100. I also read your words, which I understood and then responded in that context.

[hunter]

60. Misanthropy is my word for the day.

Misanthropy is the general hatred, dislike, distrust or contempt of the human species, human behavior or human nature. A misanthrope or misanthropist is someone who holds such views or feelings.

Does it exist? Of course it does. Is it wrong? Of course it is. There are words to describe all sort of specific bigotry. Bigotry, pretty much, is wrong. All of it. There is no good bigotry.

[MineralMan]

68. Your statement is as true as mine. It just has a different noun as a subject.

[misanthrope]

85. I can give you two words to summarize my distrust of my species

Anthropocene
Extinction

That doesn't mean individuals within the species aren't capable of admirable or astounding and positive things. But as a great writhing mass we are slitting our own throats and ignoring the warnings about it, if not actually accelerating the process.

No Siberian traps needed now. We are the End-Permian event this time.

[fishwax]

59. I don't get it. What's your point? Why is this your selection for word of the day?

[abqtommy]

73. It's a new word for me and one of my interests is language and definitions. I did explain it in

my original op.

[SoonerPride]

61. What's the word for hating trolls?

[boston bean]

63. Trollandry.

[SoonerPride]

91. Hahahahaha

Well played.

[JI7]

65. Where is there hatred of men in the world ?

[betsuni]

92. I can only come up with this:

[Nexus2]

94. I've seen and interacted some extreme and I imagine very much fringe so called feminist

self labeled as far as I can tell that seem to fit the definition. One such person that I was the on the most cordial terms with told me that I might have been a decent person but I was born the wrong sex. O.o

[boston bean]

95. Did that harm your earning potential, your self determination of your own body.... For example

[LizBeth]

97. Right? I mean, is this purposeful obtuseness? lol.

[Solly Mack]

96. I remember the day I learned the word excreta.

There was no internet way back then so I had to rely on snail mail to tell people about it.

People wrote back and asked me why was I talking shit through a post. (post also means mail and/or a letter - back in the olden days)

I wrote back and said I wasn't talking shit. I was talking excreta.

This back and forth went on and on ad nauseam.

Such is the inevitable peroration of talking shit.

[boston bean]

101. LMAO!

🤣

[hlthe2b]

112. kudos!

Best response in the thread.

[ibegurpard]

98. My word for the day is sealioning

N/t

[boston bean]

102. Had to look that up! Now that is a word we can all relate to!

Hope I remember to use it in appropriate responses!

[littlemissmartypants]

120. Sealioning

is a harassment tactic by which a participant in a debate or online discussion pesters the other participant with disingenuous questions under the guise of sincerity, hoping to erode the patience or goodwill of the target to the point where they appear unreasonable.

https://www.merriam-webster.com › ...
What is 'Sealioning?': A Type of Trolling | Merriam-Webster

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Excellent share. Thanks. ❤

[Wahyee]

113. Did you even read the article?

A group of women is voicing that the male bad actors in their community do not represent them or their community:

Writing that “misogynism and mob mentality have no place in any decent community”, the letter castigates those involved for “loud, aggressive and intimidating behaviour” that it says serves to reinforce stereotypes of Muslim men as oppressive.

It also calls on community groups and religious centres to “step up”, accusing local organisations of failing to provide services for Muslim couples seeking marriage counselling, women suffering from domestic violence or those struggling with addiction. “The sad reality is our own community has failed itself by allowing an elite group of men to dictate the agenda."

[abqtommy]

116. Yes I did read the article. That's why I referenced it in my original op. Thank you for reading it

too. Interesting word is "misandry".

[Wahyee]

117. How is it relevant to the article you posted?

[abqtommy]

130. The word "misandry" appeared in the article. It drew my interest so I defined it. I have no

motive beyond that.

[muriel_volestrangler]

128. Then did you note the group that introduced the word?

It is on a level with the phrase "cancel culture". It's extremely rare to find its use justified. And it certainly wasn't in this case.

[LiberatedUSA]

115. Before you made this thread...

...did you fire up a fat one to puff on while you sat back to watch the show?

[Happy Hoosier]

135. My words of the day: Fragile Masculinity

Some folks….