focus on 50 year old 600 unit condo high rise in Marina Del Rey California, inspection ordered

[Demovictory9]

MARINA DEL REY (CBSLA) – Los Angeles County officials have ordered an inspection of the Marina City Club Towers, a condominium complex with three buildings in Marina Del Rey, after the tragic Champlain Tower collapse in Florida last week.

On Wednesday, Supervisor Janice Hahn asked Public Works to investigate, and the county is threatening to red tag the property if millions of dollars in repairs aren’t made. Officials said the buildings are deteriorating and in disrepair and residents are worried.

“I’m scared to death. I’m really scared to death,” Teri Hirano, a City Club resident said.

From the air, CBSLA’s Desmond Shaw captured footage of cracks on the 50-year-old high-rise buildings, which consist of 600 condo units, many with million dollar views, and 100 apartments.

Some residents in the building have also collected video of cracks on the roof, along with cracks and decay on the ground. In the underground garage, way below street level, concrete on the ground that looks as if it’s been pushed aside actually came from above.


https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/06/30/exclusive-county-orders-inspection-of-marina-city-club-towers-in-marina-del-rey-after-tragic-florida-condo-collapse/

[bullwinkle428]

1. I literally said the other day that the ripple effect from the Surfside disaster

could be absolutely incalculable.

[Baitball Blogger]

3. I'm sure the business sect Republicans will think of something to save their collective

asses, like certifying buildings after thorough inspections. No to vaccine certificates, yes to beachfront condo inspections.

[Sympthsical]

5. The Sampoong collapse in Seoul had the same effect in Korea

After 500+ people died in that, the government went through and reinspected pretty much all of Seoul.

I forget the percentages, but it was absolutely obnoxious how many buildings needed repair, with many needing almost total rebuilds. It was not a small percentage.

I suspect we may start seeing similar.

[madinmaryland]

14. I was thinking the same thing. This could run into the tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars

for reconstruction of these towers. Who is going to pay for it?

You guessed it: the American taxpayers (us).

[at140]

9. Yeah...like my insurance premiums going up again?

State Farm already jacked up my home insurance 12% over last year.
Why? I have not filed a claim in 50 years with them.
I am seriously looking at canceling my home insurance.

[CreekDog]

17. can't do that if you have a mortgage, without replacing the coverage

and if you don't have a mortgage, doing that seems to leave you totally covering all the risk.

[Demovictory9]

23. Yep

The bank will force a policy on you and add the cost to your monthly bill

[at140]

25. I have no mortgage, and I also don't carry Collision insurance on my car

So I don't really do not need to carry home insurance. The only risk really is fire.
But this house is only 2 years old, and there are no smokers in house.
Chance of house burning down are extremely small. So screw State Farm.
Let others pay for the building collapse in FLorida.

I have not carried auto collision insurance in 50 years. Because I save first then pay cash
for the car purchase. I think I saved enough to buy 2 new cars over 50 years of no collision insurance..

[milestogo]

2. 700 residences...

What a disaster that would be if it collapsed.

[Demovictory9]

8. this was the pinnacle of living in southern California. $4000 - $5000 apartments

views of the ocean. fancy part of town. I recall being envious of the area back in the day.

[pstokely]

15. could it even survive a quake?

?

[Amishman]

21. depends on the quake and the construction

lots of variables; quake strength, location, and depth. Foundation and soil type.

The Leaning Tower of Pisa has rode out multiple very strong quakes over the past 800 years, the shallow foundation and soft soil paradoxically protect it during those events. What structures are most vulnerable and how they are impacted by earthquakes is not always how you'd expect.

[LiberatedUSA]

4. If some good can come from this disaster...

...let it be buildings that have been allowed to slide are now forced to repair or get shut down. America has treated its infrastructure like many people treat their gutters...they’ll clean them out next year.

[crickets]

19. +1

[Initech]

6. Some of these buildings are going to be ticking time bombs.

I mean seriously, I can't ask this enough - how did what happened in Miami not happen more often?

[Johnny2X2X]

7. These buildings weren't meant to last forever

Large buildings like this aren't meant to last for hundreds of years, they all have a lifespan. Many of them are nearing their end of life.

[Demovictory9]

10. but because they are condos, no thought given to what that means to the owners

Do you just lose your investment other than the land? do you pony up to build a new building? Just patching up these large high rises seems like delaying the inevitable.

[Johnny2X2X]

11. And that's the motive

The building owners, building managers, and individual condo owners have a massive motivation to keep them going at as little cost as possible.

[Demovictory9]

12. yes, if there was one owner, like an investment company owning a high rise apartment

they can rationally cut their loses, demolish and rebuild. Not so easy with 100s of owners

[Turbineguy]

13. Apparently, you can get

condemnation insurance.

[pstokely]

16. how many condo developments are designed to last 40+ years? commercially, it's obsolete at that age

and should you even buy property on leased land? you might be able to move a trailer home out of trailer park (even if might cost more to move than it's worth) but you can't move a condo

https://fox2now.com/news/residents-of-texas-ranch-kicked-to-the-curb-by-new-land-owner-stan-kroenke/

[CreekDog]

18. you really think the design life of a steel frame high rise is 40 years?

i'm not an expert but that seems laughable.

[Demovictory9]

22. My realtor steered me away from condos on leased land

[Hassin Bin Sober]

20. And so it starts.

Inspectors and municipalities will be covering their asses.

Same happened here in Chicago after a window fell out of the CNA building and killed a woman. The city mandated inspections. Lots of people got hit with huge special assessments.

Same when a porch collapsed and killed 13 people.