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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPreet Bharara's prediction re: Weisselberg
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Preet Bharara:
Im not optimistic that Weisselberg will flip but I am optimistic hell be convicted. The law is fairly clear on what is income & what is taxable. Hes a sophisticated executive; mistake is implausible. The company booked much of it as income. And juries hate rich tax cheats.
4:24 PM · Jul 1, 2021
House of Roberts
(5,168 posts)rurallib
(62,403 posts)Hope Weaselburger gets 20+ years
calimary
(81,179 posts)Sure fits! And its funny!
lastlib
(23,194 posts)Weasels are noble beasts compared to the trump scum.
but it IS funny!!
druidity33
(6,445 posts)KS Toronado
(17,184 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,202 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)I know, she's not a lawyer. But we are just talking taxes on a million over years, right?
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)ShazzieB
(16,350 posts)From what she said, she thinks Jr., Eric, and Ivanka would throw their dad under the bus before Weisselberg would. Which made me laugh and laugh. I guess family loyalty doesn't run very deep with that bunch.
onetexan
(13,033 posts)Are purely transactional, as Mary Trump said.
wnylib
(21,417 posts)would not let him run again and face the humiliation of losing after losing in 2020.
Oops! Off a little on that one. At least he is bluster-talking about running again. Maybe she forgot to take into account his desperation to use a return (reinstatement) to the presidency as a shield against prosecution.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Always point back to something that's good for him and his money making ability
If he says he's not running again the money could dry up?
wnylib
(21,417 posts)the money to dry up. I can't think of any other reason for him to say that he will be reinstated unless he really believes he can succeed in a second coup.
Or the reinstatement talk and the talk about running in 2024 are just part of a face-saving denial that he actually lost in 2020.
Warpy
(111,222 posts)Remember, the taxes came to 1.76 million over 15 years. At a 15% tax rate, it worked out to a little over $770,000 per year, which isn't in the chicken feed realm and was probably just enough to keep Weisselberg from retiring to some Caribbean island.
I hope his kids took full advantage of their high priced educations, it looks like they'll all have to work for a living.
However, if he pisses the judge off enough to merit any kind of a sentence, it will be months, not years, and he will get out early.
Ilsa
(61,691 posts)but what did she do there?
Warpy
(111,222 posts)Collect. That's my gues(
Edit: Yes, that was unforgivably snarky. In my defense I have lived in the upper midwest. They don't call the look "the full Cleveland" for nothing.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)My family lived in Joliet, ILLINOIS. Its south of Chicago. People were very unfriendly there. Especially in traffic! Winters are miserable!
Ziggysmom
(3,406 posts)charitable AND friendly 😊 True, I admit the Chicago vicinity traffic can be a real bummer and bring out the worst in people. The unfriendlies must be the magats!
As far as weather goes, I enjoy skating, skiing and tubing in winter; the change of seasons is refreshing to some.
Warpy
(111,222 posts)when I was an adult. I've heard people say the same thing about New Englanders, but I never found it to be true. Some of them just took a while to warm up, the person down the street you grunted back and forth with over the winter turning out to be a friend by summer. I really had no trouble either place.
It was Dixie I found clannish, intolerant, spiky, and impenetrable.
To each his own, i guess.
It was snarky and unnecessary.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I have only been to Chicago and Cinci, but not spent enough time in either to really get a handle on midwest fashion, except that it's not New York.
Warpy
(111,222 posts)especially in destination resorts around the country. It was a dead giveaway and no, I didn't invent the term.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=full%20cleveland
Googled images and got this. It's kind of a 70's look. I would think that nobody dresses like this anymore. Leisure suit w/ white patent leather belt and matching shoes.
Warpy
(111,222 posts)and occasionally seeing the sights in Boston.
Yeah, it really was a thing.
OhioTim
(257 posts)who get only fines
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)Grins
(7,203 posts)Wait until they get Trump in the dock.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)in NY State prison system. Imagine him stripping, bending over, naked and coughing. He wont last a week. State prison is not Club-Fed.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)some of the smaller convicts flipping, he may change his mind.
flying_wahini
(6,588 posts)Hes an accountant, after all.
He is a crook cut from the same cloth as tRump.
He probably taught Trump everything he knows about cheating on taxes.
Escurumbele
(3,383 posts)but saved money outside of the USA in case something like this would ever happen. That is the reason the judge took his passport away, they said he had the means to fly out of the country to a country where the USA has no extradition agreements and that he had enough money to live there happily ever after...I made the "happily ever after" up, the prosecutor did not say that, but the judge agreed that he was a fly-risk.
I am surprised he didn't take off before being indicted, he has known for months it was coming.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)tRUMP has made it a point to be in the NY tRUMP tower offices of the tRUMP Organization instead of playing golf everyday, Why? So he can look the Weasel in the eye and remind him that what he (tRUMP) has on the Weasel is far worse than what the DA has. And the consequences of flipping will be far FAR worse for the Weasel and his family than a conviction with no jail time by the DA.
Weasel knows tRUMP is involved with the mob. NY and Russian. Men in cement shoes consequences for Weasel's family first then Weasel himself. And there's the Weasel kid who works for tRUMP, outta work in an instant along with Weasel.
Weaselberg is never going to flip and the consequences, even conviction, will get him a fine at most. (too old for the slam).
Hope the DA is looking for others to flip cause Weasel (IMO) isn't flipping.
FakeNoose
(32,613 posts)People are saying that AW won't flip unless his son is also looking at jailtime. He'd do it to save his son. It's possible that Cy Vance has enough on Chump that he doesn't need AW to flip.
Escurumbele
(3,383 posts)Lets hope someone in the organization hates trump as much as 70% of the World and tells the story.
jmowreader
(50,546 posts)Witness one Winston Shrout, sovereign citizen tax avoidance guru. He is 73 years old, has hypertension, heart disease, lung disease and is overweight. He's also currently doing 10 years at FCI Terminal Island.
Given that, I don't think the feds need Weisselberg to flip. They know Trump is a micromanager. If they've got Weisselberg, they know Trump either allowed or ordered the things Weisselberg did, which means they can get Trump without having to rely on Weisselberg.
ScratchCat
(1,977 posts)That they are setting up Trump with a bribery sting? That maybe Weiselberg is only "not cooperating" publicly, but has already struck a deal where they will catch Trump trying to bribe or threaten him?
Joinfortmill
(14,408 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,408 posts)Cha
(297,029 posts)FakeNoose
(32,613 posts)The assholes voted for him anyway.
Cha
(297,029 posts)Blue Owl
(50,329 posts)Next time thank Diarrhea Donny for defunding the police...