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FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 08:06 PM Jul 2021

Preet Bharara's prediction re: Weisselberg




Preet Bharara:
I’m not optimistic that Weisselberg will flip but I am optimistic he’ll be convicted. The law is fairly clear on what is income & what is taxable. He’s a sophisticated executive; mistake is implausible. The company booked much of it as income. And juries hate rich tax cheats.
4:24 PM · Jul 1, 2021

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Preet Bharara's prediction re: Weisselberg (Original Post) FakeNoose Jul 2021 OP
Lock up yon Wifflebooger! House of Roberts Jul 2021 #1
He's singing my favorite song rurallib Jul 2021 #2
Hey! I like that! Weaselburger! calimary Jul 2021 #9
Insulting to the entire Mustelidae family.... lastlib Jul 2021 #14
Noble maybe... but they do smell funny. nt. druidity33 Jul 2021 #30
I'll second that, fits perfect! KS Toronado Jul 2021 #15
Love it! lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #22
"French Revolution him " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Jul 2021 #3
Mary Trump fwiw just said she thought he wouldn't get jail time Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #4
She also said she'd expect her cousins to flip before he does nt dflprincess Jul 2021 #6
I know! Loved that part! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #7
Yes! ShazzieB Jul 2021 #35
LOL in their wierdly dysfunctional family their relationships onetexan Jul 2021 #37
She predicted that her uncle's ego wnylib Jul 2021 #24
And it could all be an act. I think he's really good at that but his actions Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #29
Could be right about not wanting wnylib Jul 2021 #32
Yes, he'll plead his age and go broke paying interest and penalties Warpy Jul 2021 #11
Yeah, Ivanka had a $2million salary, Ilsa Jul 2021 #25
You mean other than designing bad fashion for aspirational midwesterners? Warpy Jul 2021 #26
The Midwest is the unfriendliest place I've ever been lunatica Jul 2021 #27
Not true! The Midwest has many good, true-blue, liberal citizens who are neighborly, Ziggysmom Jul 2021 #28
Maybe living there while I was growing up prepared me for New England Warpy Jul 2021 #46
Yes Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #33
Just curious, what "look" is the full Cleveland? smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #42
Here. It was well known in the 70s and 80s more than it is now Warpy Jul 2021 #43
LOL! smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #44
I used to see them all the time in Florida and on Cape Cod Warpy Jul 2021 #45
Just Like All The Rich OhioTim Jul 2021 #39
Will he get any more than probation or a suspended sentence? Poiuyt Jul 2021 #5
"...juries hate rich tax cheats." Grins Jul 2021 #8
He is going to eat the charges so if these are State charges let's see how long he lasts Pepsidog Jul 2021 #10
When prison is more than a concept, but a closely felt reality - witness empedocles Jul 2021 #12
I doubt Weaselburger will go broke. He's probably been skimming $$$$ from Trump for decades. flying_wahini Jul 2021 #13
You are most probably right, I have to think he has invested outside of the USA, maybe not invested Escurumbele Jul 2021 #21
My 2 Cents: SayItLoud Jul 2021 #16
You could be right about this FakeNoose Jul 2021 #17
I like your 2 cents, it makes a lot of sense, even if it is just speculation, it is a good one Escurumbele Jul 2021 #23
There is nobody "too old for the slam" jmowreader Jul 2021 #36
I wonder if Preet has considered the possibility ScratchCat Jul 2021 #18
Ha! Love it. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #20
It'll be real when the prison door slams behind him. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #19
Didn't the TP brag about NOT paying Taxes? Cha Jul 2021 #31
Yes he did, even while campaigning in 2016 FakeNoose Jul 2021 #40
And look were we are now.. Cha Jul 2021 #41
Donald Trump: TAX CHEAT Blue Owl Jul 2021 #34
i am quite sure the moron has padded his nest w/ millions to insure his silence. pansypoo53219 Jul 2021 #38

lastlib

(23,194 posts)
14. Insulting to the entire Mustelidae family....
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 09:22 AM
Jul 2021

Weasels are noble beasts compared to the trump scum.

but it IS funny!!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
4. Mary Trump fwiw just said she thought he wouldn't get jail time
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jul 2021

I know, she's not a lawyer. But we are just talking taxes on a million over years, right?

ShazzieB

(16,350 posts)
35. Yes!
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:07 PM
Jul 2021

From what she said, she thinks Jr., Eric, and Ivanka would throw their dad under the bus before Weisselberg would. Which made me laugh and laugh. I guess family loyalty doesn't run very deep with that bunch.

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
37. LOL in their wierdly dysfunctional family their relationships
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:57 PM
Jul 2021

Are purely transactional, as Mary Trump said.

wnylib

(21,417 posts)
24. She predicted that her uncle's ego
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jul 2021

would not let him run again and face the humiliation of losing after losing in 2020.

Oops! Off a little on that one. At least he is bluster-talking about running again. Maybe she forgot to take into account his desperation to use a return (reinstatement) to the presidency as a shield against prosecution.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. And it could all be an act. I think he's really good at that but his actions
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jul 2021

Always point back to something that's good for him and his money making ability

If he says he's not running again the money could dry up?

wnylib

(21,417 posts)
32. Could be right about not wanting
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jul 2021

the money to dry up. I can't think of any other reason for him to say that he will be reinstated unless he really believes he can succeed in a second coup.

Or the reinstatement talk and the talk about running in 2024 are just part of a face-saving denial that he actually lost in 2020.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
11. Yes, he'll plead his age and go broke paying interest and penalties
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:12 PM
Jul 2021

Remember, the taxes came to 1.76 million over 15 years. At a 15% tax rate, it worked out to a little over $770,000 per year, which isn't in the chicken feed realm and was probably just enough to keep Weisselberg from retiring to some Caribbean island.

I hope his kids took full advantage of their high priced educations, it looks like they'll all have to work for a living.

However, if he pisses the judge off enough to merit any kind of a sentence, it will be months, not years, and he will get out early.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
26. You mean other than designing bad fashion for aspirational midwesterners?
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jul 2021

Collect. That's my gues(

Edit: Yes, that was unforgivably snarky. In my defense I have lived in the upper midwest. They don't call the look "the full Cleveland" for nothing.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
27. The Midwest is the unfriendliest place I've ever been
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jul 2021

My family lived in Joliet, ILLINOIS. It’s south of Chicago. People were very unfriendly there. Especially in traffic! Winters are miserable!

Ziggysmom

(3,406 posts)
28. Not true! The Midwest has many good, true-blue, liberal citizens who are neighborly,
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jul 2021

charitable AND friendly 😊 True, I admit the Chicago vicinity traffic can be a real bummer and bring out the worst in people. The unfriendlies must be the magats!

As far as weather goes, I enjoy skating, skiing and tubing in winter; the change of seasons is refreshing to some.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
46. Maybe living there while I was growing up prepared me for New England
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 09:21 PM
Jul 2021

when I was an adult. I've heard people say the same thing about New Englanders, but I never found it to be true. Some of them just took a while to warm up, the person down the street you grunted back and forth with over the winter turning out to be a friend by summer. I really had no trouble either place.

It was Dixie I found clannish, intolerant, spiky, and impenetrable.

To each his own, i guess.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
42. Just curious, what "look" is the full Cleveland?
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 09:32 PM
Jul 2021

I have only been to Chicago and Cinci, but not spent enough time in either to really get a handle on midwest fashion, except that it's not New York.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
43. Here. It was well known in the 70s and 80s more than it is now
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 09:56 PM
Jul 2021

especially in destination resorts around the country. It was a dead giveaway and no, I didn't invent the term.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=full%20cleveland

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
44. LOL!
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 10:13 PM
Jul 2021

Googled images and got this. It's kind of a 70's look. I would think that nobody dresses like this anymore. Leisure suit w/ white patent leather belt and matching shoes.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
45. I used to see them all the time in Florida and on Cape Cod
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 10:18 PM
Jul 2021

and occasionally seeing the sights in Boston.

Yeah, it really was a thing.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
10. He is going to eat the charges so if these are State charges let's see how long he lasts
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:37 PM
Jul 2021

in NY State prison system. Imagine him stripping, bending over, naked and coughing. He won’t last a week. State prison is not Club-Fed.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
12. When prison is more than a concept, but a closely felt reality - witness
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 06:43 AM
Jul 2021

some of the smaller convicts flipping, he may change his mind.

flying_wahini

(6,588 posts)
13. I doubt Weaselburger will go broke. He's probably been skimming $$$$ from Trump for decades.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 09:15 AM
Jul 2021

He’s an accountant, after all.
He is a crook cut from the same cloth as tRump.
He probably taught Trump everything he knows about cheating on taxes.

Escurumbele

(3,383 posts)
21. You are most probably right, I have to think he has invested outside of the USA, maybe not invested
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jul 2021

but saved money outside of the USA in case something like this would ever happen. That is the reason the judge took his passport away, they said he had the means to fly out of the country to a country where the USA has no extradition agreements and that he had enough money to live there happily ever after...I made the "happily ever after" up, the prosecutor did not say that, but the judge agreed that he was a fly-risk.

I am surprised he didn't take off before being indicted, he has known for months it was coming.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
16. My 2 Cents:
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jul 2021

tRUMP has made it a point to be in the NY tRUMP tower offices of the tRUMP Organization instead of playing golf everyday, Why? So he can look the Weasel in the eye and remind him that what he (tRUMP) has on the Weasel is far worse than what the DA has. And the consequences of flipping will be far FAR worse for the Weasel and his family than a conviction with no jail time by the DA.

Weasel knows tRUMP is involved with the mob. NY and Russian. Men in cement shoes consequences for Weasel's family first then Weasel himself. And there's the Weasel kid who works for tRUMP, outta work in an instant along with Weasel.

Weaselberg is never going to flip and the consequences, even conviction, will get him a fine at most. (too old for the slam).

Hope the DA is looking for others to flip cause Weasel (IMO) isn't flipping.

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
17. You could be right about this
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 10:45 AM
Jul 2021

People are saying that AW won't flip unless his son is also looking at jailtime. He'd do it to save his son. It's possible that Cy Vance has enough on Chump that he doesn't need AW to flip.

Escurumbele

(3,383 posts)
23. I like your 2 cents, it makes a lot of sense, even if it is just speculation, it is a good one
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 11:29 AM
Jul 2021

Lets hope someone in the organization hates trump as much as 70% of the World and tells the story.

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
36. There is nobody "too old for the slam"
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:26 PM
Jul 2021

Witness one Winston Shrout, sovereign citizen tax avoidance guru. He is 73 years old, has hypertension, heart disease, lung disease and is overweight. He's also currently doing 10 years at FCI Terminal Island.

Given that, I don't think the feds need Weisselberg to flip. They know Trump is a micromanager. If they've got Weisselberg, they know Trump either allowed or ordered the things Weisselberg did, which means they can get Trump without having to rely on Weisselberg.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
18. I wonder if Preet has considered the possibility
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 11:04 AM
Jul 2021

That they are setting up Trump with a bribery sting? That maybe Weiselberg is only "not cooperating" publicly, but has already struck a deal where they will catch Trump trying to bribe or threaten him?

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