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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsToyota tops GM sales in the U.S., expected to be America's best-selling automaker
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiECgODVKmRsjvCToIdQVmyasqGQgEKhAIACoHCAow2Nb3CjDivdcCMP3ungY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3AenToyota Motor outsold General Motors in the U.S. for the first time ever during a quarter and is expected to be America's best-selling automaker.
The Japanese automaker on Thursday reported sales of 688,813 vehicles in the U.S. from April through June. That compares to GM at 688,236 vehicles during the second quarter. Toyota beat analyst expectations, while GM slightly missed forecasts.
The shake-up was caused by a global chip shortage that has significantly hampered vehicle production. Japanese automakers, specifically Toyota, have been able to manage the crisis better than their American competitors.
"They've kind of defied gravity the last couple of months," Cox Automotive senior economist Charlie Chesbrough said. "We're tracking them having very weak inventories out there and yet their sales have actually held up quite well. We're really kind of surprised by Toyota's strength, and having a decent quarter relative to some of the competition."
ansible
(1,718 posts)I'll never understand why other car manufacturers can't even come close. I've seen cars over 300k miles running on their original timing belt, it's insane how they can take so much abuse that would destroy other cars.
Sympthsical
(9,072 posts)Reliable, cheap and easy to repair, readily available parts. The warranty was pretty great, too. They tossed it in for free. 10 year/100,000 miles.
I've had zero problems. It's eight years old, 52k miles (I don't drive much). Outside of tire replacement and general maintenance, I've never had it in the shop.
I get that people are pissed over their donations. But, they sell for a reason.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)over 330,000 miles on it. I actually sold it privately for around $1500 in 2013.
elleng
(130,865 posts)Calls to boycott Toyota fueled by its donations to election-objector Republicans.
The Japanese auto maker tops list of companies that donated to lawmakers who voted against certifying Joe Bidens victory in the 2020 presidential election.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/calls-to-boycott-toyota-fueled-by-its-donations-to-election-objector-republicans-11624898975
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)GM, Ford just don't get it, or don't care.
JCMach1
(27,556 posts)And their insurrection supporting BS
Also, f#$k Toyota for stealing millions of dollars by stocking POC with higher interest rates.
Also, f$#k Toyota for sitting on my payout refund for that same damn car for 9 months.
There is absolutely nothing good I have to say about Toyota.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)But they make reliable cars that people want, so they have gotten away with bad corporate behavior.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)MichMan
(11,910 posts)JCMach1
(27,556 posts)They have turned into a very evilCorp indeed.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)The shift to larger vehicles was the biggest factor hurting fuel economy. In 2019, 44% of the fleet were cars and 56% were light-duty trucks, a category that includes SUVs, the highest percentage of trucks on record. SUVs alone account for almost 50% of U.S. vehicle production.
The EPA also said average vehicle weight and horsepower hit records in the 2019 and were on place to rise again in 2020.
The EPA also disclosed that through the 2019 model year, Tesla has sold 39.8 million megagrams in credits, while FCA has purchased 82.1 million credits, the most of any automaker.
Honda has also sold 40 million credits and GM purchased 10.7 million credits.
Toyota sold 33.8 million credits, while BMW and Daimler AG bought 5.5 million credits and 12.2 million respectively.
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/01/06/vehicle-fleet-efficiency/
Second only to Tesla in credits sold.
JCMach1
(27,556 posts)Electric platforms with the Volt and Bolt and is a leader in the sustainable segment going forward.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)The fresh trio of electrified models will debut this year and hit the market in 2022, Toyota Motor North America executive vice president of sales Bob Carter says. Being coy, he says one of the pure electrics is a crossover and at least one is for the Toyota brand, suggesting the other is a Lexus and has a sexier body shape. He would not offer us any details about the plug-in hybrid.
The new electrified vehicles are specifically for the U.S. market, but initially will be built in Japan. Toyota is developing a dedicated electric vehicle platform it calls e-TNGA, that is flexible enough to underpin front-, rear-, and all-wheel-drive vehicles.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyota-new-evs-plug-in-hybrid-plans-2021/
Their hybrids changed from NiH to lithium ion batteries and they know all about manufacturing electric motors and electric vehicle control systems.
Once they see the market, they will continue their strategy of converting their existing models to electric, rather than bringing out new brands.
JCMach1
(27,556 posts)Or totaled auto cash for 9 months.
And now insurrection?
Worst corporation ever.
pstokely
(10,525 posts)when you build shitty cars that don't sell, just blame the unions
and when you mention Datsun to the kids these days, they think you're talking about weiner dogs
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Then came the American automotive dark ages, the 1970s, when US car makers made absolute shit. And they never recovered.
pstokely
(10,525 posts)cars wearing out after a few years was normal
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)But Japan was just getting started, their cars were still not that reliable, so they were not capturing the market yet. But Japan kept improving, unlike GM and Ford.
There's still US cars on the street from the 1960s, and their owners cherish them. The 1970s, not so much.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)California and then the Federal government imposed regulations limiting the percentage of pollutants in the exhaust.
The pollutants are generated near the walls of the cylinder due to incomplete combustion.
The US automakers met the regulations by increasing the size of the cylinders, thereby reducing the ratio of wall surface to cylinder volume. It's dubious whether these regulations actually decreased the pollutants per vehicle mile traveled.
Only after the oil shocks, high gas prices, and gas lines did they start to design new more efficient engines. Even then, they sucked. My last US car was an '85 Chevy. Never again.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,393 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Most of the import cars they were complaining about were built in Japan and Germany. 1950 was just 4.5 years after the end of WW2, were just about all industry was destroyed through years of heavy bombing campaigns.
Whose to say unions destroy the ability to make good selling cars. Germany does it and they both take care of the environment, pay their workers well, and offer great benefits.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)outside general maintenance. I had to replace a couple of lightbulbs.
OnionPatch
(6,169 posts)I loved that car! It was solid and dependable and I put 130k+ miles on it without any issues before trading it for a hybrid. It had great mileage too.
JCMach1
(27,556 posts)Battery range.
The ICE purrs like a kitten with no leaks.
The most durable car I ever had was a Buick Century wagon in the 1990s which I drove for over 350k miles. I only ever repaired a couple of sensors and the transmission got sticky, so I used to put special fluid additive that cured it. Sold it for $500 when I moved to Dubai and would see it around the small town I used to live when I would visit for many summers. It also got great mileage.
So no, Toyota does not have a monopoly on great cars. They are solely coasting on reputation at this point.
As much as I hate Toyota, I had to drive a brand new Camry as a rental. It had cheap plasticy interior and a jerky transmission.
So no, it's #BoycottToyota for many, many reasons.
SYFROYH
(34,169 posts)Ive been pleased.
HAB911
(8,880 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)I care fuck all about their politics or the politics of some of their owners.
JCMach1
(27,556 posts)That happened to my wife.
My POC wife with 800+ credit was shafted by finance.
This was such SOP for Toyota, they had to answer for it in a successful class action they mostly kept out of the press.
F$&k Toyota
MVP Kamala
(1,235 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)Isn't Toyota compromised for funding insurrectionist lawmakers?
JCMach1
(27,556 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)Plenty of other alternatives out there, and some even produce better cars!
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)No problems till now. The air has gone out. But after 16 years I cant complain. Looks like shit, but for 16 year has started every time I turn the key.
Our new vehicle is a 14 Tundra. Needed it to pull the boat. 185,000 miles and like new. It replaced a 13 year old Tundra. Both American made. Well, the 05 Tacoma was assembled in America. The Tundra built here.
Looking at a Kia Stinger to replace the Tacoma.
We routinely drive 300 plus miles. Often pulling a boat. An electric vehicle does not work for us right now.
Ive read enough to know the best thing for the environment is to keep a car for a decade or more. It takes a lot to build them.