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SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 10:56 AM Jul 2021

Will banks call in Trump's loans?

Now that the Trump org has been indicted, banks can 'call in' loans with the Trump organization.
The banks, many European, often have clauses to protect the loans, if the borrower is indicted. Reports are saying, Deustche Bank, one of the biggest, does not have that clause...but nothing has been made available, to validate that exemption. I suspect we'll see important points, over the Independance Day weekend.

I, myself, think this 'call in' option will result in some very interesting media reports, especially from Euro news agencies.

This quote, from a politico.com article, sums it up well.

"...Murad Hussain, a partner in Arnold & Porter’s white-collar defense practice. “Beyond the adverse publicity, an indictment might trigger a lender’s rights to call outstanding loans, or give a government agency grounds to suspend a business license or the ability to participate in public programs. This isn’t always guaranteed to happen, but if it does, it’s an uphill battle to undo the damage.”

One of the biggest risks involves the company’s debt — and the Trump Organization’s debts are reportedly immense. A Forbes investigation published in October 2020 calculated that Trump owes his creditors at least $1 billion. A spokesperson for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment."


Quote from Politico.com
By BETSY WOODRUFF SWAN
07/01/2021 05:15 PM EDT
Updated: 07/01/2021 05:32 PM EDT

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/01/trump-organization-indictments-497706

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. I mentioned in another thread that in his 1992 bankruptcy (one of them, anyway)...
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 11:40 AM
Jul 2021

he owed so much, overpaying on the Plaza Hotel and almost all of Central Park South, that the banks thought it better to let him stay in business and try to make a go of it than end up owning all of those overvalued properties.

They put him on a very short leash until he started making a living from the TV show.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. This will snowball. Once it starts, there will be an avalanche of panicky banks jumping in.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jul 2021

They know that the early bird gets the worm. The worm being Trump.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,158 posts)
4. "If you owe a bank $100,000, you have a problem. If you owe a bank
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jul 2021

$100,000,000, they have a problem."

I don't think any bank is going to risk starting a run on TFG's assets, where everybody could wind up getting screwed -- including themselves.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,939 posts)
5. Kurt Eichenwald has some good observations about the effect of this indictment on the trump org
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 12:29 PM
Jul 2021

Kurt does not see how the Trump Org survives this without some sort of corrupt deal overseas. I tend to agree
















no_hypocrisy

(46,034 posts)
6. Here's the issue.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jul 2021

Lots of loans, lots of banks. May not have enough money (even after liquidation of assets) for everyone.

Then Chapter 9 of the Uniform Commercial Code takes over as far as establishing priority, IOW, who gets paid first and how much.

zuul

(14,624 posts)
7. It will be interesting to see if any of our foreign adversaries bail him out.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:29 PM
Jul 2021

Russia, China and Saudi Arabia must be weighing the value of throwing him more lifelines.

If they think he will actually run for POTUS in 2024 and if he has a chance of winning, they might. Not that we will ever know.

Does anyone really know who was behind the Deutsche Bank loans to TFG? Someone bankrolled him at DB when no other lenders would touch him. My guess is Pooty Poot.

Blue Owl

(50,280 posts)
8. If they were your loans or my loans, I guaran-goddamn-tee they would
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jul 2021

Guess we'll find out just how fucking special little Donny truly is...

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