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Nevilledog

(51,063 posts)
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 12:49 PM Jul 2021

TX Lt. Gov Patrick told museum to shut down event for book questioning the Alamo "myth"



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Will Sommer
@willsommer
The Texas history museum cancelled an event for a book questioning the Alamo 'myth,' after Texas Lt. Gov @DanPatrick told them to shut the event down.

Texas history museum pulls out of event on book reexamining Alamo 'myth'
The authors of “Forget the Alamo: The Rise and Fall of an American Myth,” had planned...
expressnews.com
9:41 AM · Jul 2, 2021


https://www.expressnews.com/news/legislature/article/Texas-history-museum-pulls-out-of-event-on-book-16288683.php



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Judd Legum
@JuddLegum
Noted opponent of “cancel culture” uses his political position to cancel a discussion of a history book about the Alamo

Dan Patrick
@DanPatrick
As a member of the Preservation Board, I told staff to cancel this event as soon as I found out about it. Like efforts to move the Cenotaph, which I also stopped, this fact-free rewriting of TX history has no place @BullockMuseum. #txlege
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9:36 AM · Jul 2, 2021

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TX Lt. Gov Patrick told museum to shut down event for book questioning the Alamo "myth" (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
That is really disturbing PatSeg Jul 2021 #1
He's a member of their board blogslug Jul 2021 #3
I'm reading this book blogslug Jul 2021 #2
I was going to say, the first thing this article did MotorCityBeard Jul 2021 #5
I'm reading book as well. Pas-de-Calais Jul 2021 #18
Interesting talk about the book... TreasonousBastard Jul 2021 #4
I heard much of that o the air. underpants Jul 2021 #8
"Crockett was a bloated has-been looking for a job" The whole interview is like that... TreasonousBastard Jul 2021 #11
Alamo? This guy better never drive to Texas. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #6
But........ MyOwnPeace Jul 2021 #22
What John Wayne wasn't at the Alamo? Botany Jul 2021 #7
What? He Directed it!!! underpants Jul 2021 #9
Yes the Alamo is real. Exactly like the movie.... LakeArenal Jul 2021 #10
The *execrable* troglodyte Dan PATRICK, next step book burning. Taking off the mask UTUSN Jul 2021 #12
The Alamo was repurposed as a warehouse amongst other things and basically ignored for decades. Thomas Hurt Jul 2021 #13
little fascist fuck... bahboo Jul 2021 #14
Forget the Alamo (Texas Monthly 1998) struggle4progress Jul 2021 #15
Dannie Scott Goeb hated his name so much he changed it to... czarjak Jul 2021 #16
Did not know that. Maybe name changing is a family tradition Rstrstx Jul 2021 #24
Culture wars are being fought by Fox and the GOP andym Jul 2021 #17
The image of Texas depends heavily on what industry is ascendant during the period Klaralven Jul 2021 #19
A Scotsman's take Cartoonist Jul 2021 #20
Just put the book on hold Retrograde Jul 2021 #21
Fuck you dead, Dad Patrick. Paladin Jul 2021 #23

MotorCityBeard

(201 posts)
5. I was going to say, the first thing this article did
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 12:57 PM
Jul 2021

was make me go to Amazon and add it to my wish list. I haven't heard of the book, but it sounds very interesting.

Pas-de-Calais

(9,904 posts)
18. I'm reading book as well.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 02:06 PM
Jul 2021

It’s well structured, laid out, plenty of real truths about the heroes. Plenty of research went into the book.

Visited the Alamo 20+ years ago. I was expecting some sort of reverance, a decorum in remembrance of those fallen. Similar to the Vietnam Memorial.

More like a cacaphony of talking loudly, wall to wall bodies, jostling with one another. We left quickly.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. "Crockett was a bloated has-been looking for a job" The whole interview is like that...
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jul 2021

No wonder they don't want to support the book!

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
10. Yes the Alamo is real. Exactly like the movie....
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:20 PM
Jul 2021

I just know the movie was based totally on facts....

The myth of John Wayne being actually the spirit of every role.

UTUSN

(70,672 posts)
12. The *execrable* troglodyte Dan PATRICK, next step book burning. Taking off the mask
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jul 2021

for these a-hole wingnuts was only on the surface about Covid, now their refusing masks is about exposing their fascism.

And wingnuts claim to be insulted by words like “Neanderthals” and “Deplorables.” While they also claim to be (in the abstract) for things like “freedom” and “liberty” and “free speech” and “freedom of Assembly” and “freedom of thought”. Yaas, they want Choice for themselves, plus THEIR Choice imposed on everybody else. And they claim to oppose “Sharia law”.

So here is that TROGLODITE (is that better than “Neanderthal”?) execrable Dan PATRICK dictating to a museum (a shrine of THOUGHT) about what can be featured or not, specifically the book documenting historical truth about Texas history.

Nothing new for all stripes of wingnuts today or wingnuts of the past, how they/ostrich close their eyes to things they don’t want to see, like pretending Red China didn’t exist if not diplomatically Recognized. It always takes one of their own – NIXON then – to break them out of their own, self-imposed WALLS.

The Execrable Dan PATRICK was/is, besides being a court-charged delinquent, a radio talk show wingnut host, which explains a lot.






Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
13. The Alamo was repurposed as a warehouse amongst other things and basically ignored for decades.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jul 2021

Then it was mythologized and wrapped in American exceptionalism, white supremacy and freeeeedom! (except for slaves).

struggle4progress

(118,271 posts)
15. Forget the Alamo (Texas Monthly 1998)
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jul 2021

By Debbie Nathan
April 1998

... Traditional Texas historians have always found it painful to associate the state with the vanquished, humiliated South. Before the Civil War, Texas was a relatively prosperous state with a thriving cotton-based economy. For years afterward, it was one of the poorest. During the Depression, historians seized on the optimism of the West and tried to put distance between Texas and its Confederate past. This was the era when Texas began to be regarded as Western rather than Southern ...

It seems astonishing that today’s Texas historians have to labor to prove Texas’ Southern ties. Virginia native Randolph “Mike” Campbell expected to miss his home state when he arrived at the University of North Texas in Denton three decades ago to teach history. But, he recalls, “I didn’t notice any difference between the attitudes you hear people express in Virginia when it comes to schools, the role of state and national government, and race, and the attitudes they communicate in Texas. When I started listening to my students, I realized they don’t have any idea that this is a Southern state or that slavery was really important here.”

Campbell tried to remedy the situation by writing An Empire for Slavery, published by LSU Press in 1989. He points out that on the eve of the Civil War, more than a quarter of Texas families owned slaves, and human chattel composed 30 percent of the state’s population—figures that match antebellum Virginia’s. An Empire for Slavery is replete with footnotes, which, if you were to follow them to their source, would take you to the newspaper morgues and county courthouses of many a Texas town. There he unearthed the moldering skeletons of the slave economy: yellowed probate records in which farmers bequeath slaves to their sons and daughters, receipts that tally the rental of slaves to other farms, and records showing how the income from leased slaves paid white children’s tuition at fancy schools ...

https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/forget-the-alamo/

czarjak

(11,266 posts)
16. Dannie Scott Goeb hated his name so much he changed it to...
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jul 2021

Dan Patrick. (Didn't want to sound Jewish after the Yankee moved to Texas)

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
24. Did not know that. Maybe name changing is a family tradition
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 04:08 PM
Jul 2021

Goeb, hmmm, where have I heard of a last name like that before, just longer?

andym

(5,443 posts)
17. Culture wars are being fought by Fox and the GOP
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jul 2021

The war against any kind of revisionism by Fox and the GOP is raging. I'm surprised they are not considering banning "Little Big Man" one of the 70's strongest revisionist films about Native Americans and American history in general.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
19. The image of Texas depends heavily on what industry is ascendant during the period
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 02:16 PM
Jul 2021

First it was cotton. Ranching followed after the removal of the Indians from the central, western and northern parts of the state. Then came the oil discoveries in the eastern part. Lastly came the military industrial complex, NASA and technology centers in Dallas and Houston. Most recently the IT industry in Austin.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
23. Fuck you dead, Dad Patrick.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jul 2021

Go back to being a Limbaugh-wannabe on some AM hate radio station. That's a lot better fit for your sick talents.

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