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WarGamer

(12,369 posts)
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:31 PM Jul 2021

Completely Off Topic... but about the Book Writing process.

Was just thinking about a life experience I've had.

An acquaintance of mine is (was) a professional athlete. Cool guy, plays a lot of golf and we have some common friends and interests.

He was approached to write a book. So as far as I knew, he wrote the book, it was published and I saw it in the book stores, cool huh?

Well, I saw him a few months later and he explained the process and I had NO IDEA how it works.

Firstly, most people REALLY can't write a book.

Publishers know this. So here's what they'll do. An Assistant Editor will make a series of appointments to talk to you, recording the meetings. You'll spend hours on the phone and in person. You'll speak biographically and reflecting on your own emotions and experiences.

The Editor will pick up on your tone, on your emotions and your motivation. They will then assemble a rough draft, a skeleton of a book and you'll meet up again. You'll start to flesh out the thin areas, the areas where the editor wants to expand the story.

Then you'll receive a second draft, printed. You're instructed to use a highlighter and write notes in the margins. After that you'll meet again to discuss your changes, any inaccuracies that exist or memories that may have changed.

Once you have pretty clear consensus on the book, it goes away again for another rewrite, this time with rhetorical flair and flourishes. It gets polished around the edges and made more "interesting".

It also gets "Fact checked"... the "author" may remember an event from a certain year when it was another year, etc.

You'll get a final draft, and as long as there are changes... you'll get subsequent final drafts until the final version is approved.



Just something to think about when you see a politician, actor or athlete that releases a book and you think to yourself, "Can they even write?"

Does ANYONE believe that Trump, Hawley, Cotton, Cruz or Giuliani can write a book?


Note: this is different than a "ghost writer"... this is a part of the publishing business and a regular process.

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Completely Off Topic... but about the Book Writing process. (Original Post) WarGamer Jul 2021 OP
so i guess if say I wanted to publish a book, I'd have to get the attention of a publisher msfiddlestix Jul 2021 #1
AFAIK, publishers approach celebrities and other notable people WarGamer Jul 2021 #2
Sorry, but no... brooklynite Jul 2021 #3
That's why I didn't say ALL books :) WarGamer Jul 2021 #5
I want to write a book but I have nothing to say. 3Hotdogs Jul 2021 #4
I suspect this writer had to pay thousands of dollars-- dawg day Jul 2021 #6
That's interesting... WarGamer Jul 2021 #7
That applies to celebrity books DavidDvorkin Jul 2021 #8

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
1. so i guess if say I wanted to publish a book, I'd have to get the attention of a publisher
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jul 2021

who hire the editors to do all this for me. How do I get their attention?

WarGamer

(12,369 posts)
2. AFAIK, publishers approach celebrities and other notable people
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:43 PM
Jul 2021

About a "book deal"... I mean, that's what they do.

What do you need to do? I don't know. Be an actor, athlete, politician, business icon or something?

Otherwise, you'll have to whip out the notepad, pencil and write the book yourself...

Me personally... I get grumpy writing reports for work, 40-50 pages max. I CAN NOT imagine how people like Rowling and Martin can create a rich and detailed world in their head and write tens of thousands of pages about it.

Saw an interview with Rowling where she said she knew the ending of the final book before she started to write the first one. I'm an engineer... a Scientist, I'm amazed and in awe of artistic and creative people.

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
3. Sorry, but no...
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:44 PM
Jul 2021

This is how SOME books are written. My friend Laurie (Pulitzer Prize winning journalist) writes her own books and THEN has them edited.

WarGamer

(12,369 posts)
5. That's why I didn't say ALL books :)
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:49 PM
Jul 2021

Like I said... I'm truly in awe of people who can create a virtual world on paper and write 1000's of pages.

I've never picked up a Hawley or Cruz book but I assume they're written by some Heritage Foundation flunky hired by a publisher.

3Hotdogs

(12,332 posts)
4. I want to write a book but I have nothing to say.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:48 PM
Jul 2021

Kinda like the line in Pink Floyd's "Dark Side...."

"I thought I'd something more to say." cept I know I don't.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
6. I suspect this writer had to pay thousands of dollars--
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 06:09 PM
Jul 2021

to get this sort of "publishing."
Several friends of mine have come bragging about how a "publisher wants me to write a book!"
And it turns out to be the usual vanity publishing where you pay $6K or so rather than getting paid.

If he's famous, of course, or has some expertise on a popular subject like UFOs, real reputable publishers might actually seek him out. I wonder what the topic is.

DavidDvorkin

(19,469 posts)
8. That applies to celebrity books
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 06:28 PM
Jul 2021

The vast majority of books are written by the authors whose names are on the covers.

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