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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 11:21 AM Jul 2021

What Made Early Humans Smart

Talking to Jeremy DeSilva about human evolution was so fun. As was reading his recent book, First Steps: How Upright Walking Made Us Human. I learned something new and fascinating on every page. Do you picture our hominin ancestors as hunters? I did. Not so much. “They were the hunted,” DeSilva writes. Let’s take another look, as modern paleoanthropologists have, at the Taung child’s skull, one of paleontology’s most famous fossils, the remains of a child from the species, Australopithecus africanus, discovered in 1924. A reanalysis of the Taung child, DeSilva tells us, showed talon marks in its eye sockets. “A bird of prey, probably a crowned eagle, must have plucked the Taung child from the ground and carried it off to be eaten.” See, I told you. Fun!

I might summarize DeSilva’s book and our interview as, “Everything I thought I knew about why humans walk upright is wrong.” And DeSilva, a paleoanthropologist at Dartmouth College, is an insightful and genial guide. I told him I was moved by his admission in First Steps that “for the first few minutes of every visit with a new fossil, my calipers, camera, and scanner remain idle. I just sit, alone, with the remains of my ancestors.” He smiled. “I love fossils,” he said. “When I first sit with a batch of fossils, I think of them as individuals. I think, ‘Hey, a million years from now, if I’m lucky enough to be a fossil, and there’s some paleontologist standing over me, I hope they take a moment to think about me as an individual, and apply everything that they can possibly think of scientifically to squeeze information out of my bones, to retell the story of what my life was like.’ That’s what we do as paleoanthropologists.”

https://nautil.us/issue/102/hidden-truths/what-made-early-humans-smart

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What Made Early Humans Smart (Original Post) Klaralven Jul 2021 OP
Talon marks in its eye sockets! Bayard Jul 2021 #1
Or a scavenger picked up the detached head/skull. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2021 #5
Sounded a little silly to me, too Warpy Jul 2021 #11
The child would have been in the upper weight range of animals preyed on by eagles Klaralven Jul 2021 #21
I never thought a bird of prey would go after something much bigger than itself Bayard Jul 2021 #26
A fascinating read. I'd like to ask Dr. DeSilva his opinion regarding what is making today's Ziggysmom Jul 2021 #2
The answer to that question is very simple..... KS Toronado Jul 2021 #8
Our primitive brain stem is taking over again! Thunderbeast Jul 2021 #13
sex on the wrong brain. humans started 50-50 right and left handed like our apish ancestors but certainot Jul 2021 #14
This explains a lot- thanks for sharing this Tumbulu Jul 2021 #17
thanks! certainot Jul 2021 #24
This has to be a joke . Politicub Jul 2021 #18
the theory isn't, been around 30 yrs, but the book is hilarious. certainot Jul 2021 #23
I love it, and I am happy you posted it. Politicub Jul 2021 #25
Makes Me Hungry For A Bowl Of Mr. Kellogg's Cornflakes, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2021 #28
I've been correct all along and didn't even know it... Hugin Jul 2021 #22
My guess would be that we are becoming less communal, 2Gingersnaps Jul 2021 #15
Need to read later. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2021 #3
Unusually clever, maybe. Hugin Jul 2021 #4
I'm with you Random Boomer Jul 2021 #7
I'll check it out, I love bio anthropology!! WarGamer Jul 2021 #6
Good article PoliWrangler Jul 2021 #9
... Javaman Jul 2021 #10
Thank you! That was an enlightening read! keopeli Jul 2021 #12
Better to ask what makes recent humans stupid? Sneederbunk Jul 2021 #16
The stupid ones did not live long enough to breed. alphafemale Jul 2021 #19
Great post. Thanks alfredo Jul 2021 #20
Enjoyed reading this. Thanks, Klaralven. nt Hortensis Jul 2021 #27
Still reading but this paragraph taught me so much and just plain blew me away.... JoeOtterbein Jul 2021 #29

Bayard

(22,069 posts)
1. Talon marks in its eye sockets!
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jul 2021

My gawd! They are still around as an endangered species. Female: 7.1 – 10 lbs, Male: 5.6 – 9.1 lbs. They must have downsized.

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
11. Sounded a little silly to me, too
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 01:37 PM
Jul 2021

They'll take cats and little lap dogs, but not kids. Chances are better that kid was already dead from any of a hundred different diseases and the carrion eaters found its body. Exposure burials were common in prehistory, the quicker a body was stripped to the bone, the quicker the process of death was completed.

However, ditching the technology to try to experience the environment is sound practice, although the environment is not what the people who once used those fossilized bones experienced. Africa has always experienced rapid and extreme climate change, one of the things suggested as a driver for human evolution.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
21. The child would have been in the upper weight range of animals preyed on by eagles
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jul 2021
The creature stood 105 centimetres (3 ft 5 in) tall and weighed between 9 and 11 kilograms (20 and 24 lb). It had a cranial capacity of 400–500 cc.[32]

In 2006, Lee Berger announced the Taung Child probably was killed by an eagle or other large predatory bird since the similarity of damage to the skull and eye sockets of the Taung Child is of that seen in modern primates that are known to have been killed by eagles. There are talon marks in the eyes as well as a depression along the skull that is common in creatures that have been preyed upon by eagles.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taung_Child

Golden eagles sometimes attack large mammals; deer and pronghorns of all ages have been observed being attacked or killed by eagles. Records also exist of bighorn sheep, coyotes, bobcats, and foxes being killed. Occasionally, golden eagles kill calves, sheep, or goats. However, attacks on animals that weigh more than 30 to 40 pounds (14 to 18 kg) are uncommon. Where golden eagles prey on domestic animals, they usually take lambs and kids, but some become persistent predators of domestic livestock as large as 500 pounds (227 kg).


https://wildlife-damage-management.extension.org/how-large-of-an-animal-will-an-eagle-attack/

Bayard

(22,069 posts)
26. I never thought a bird of prey would go after something much bigger than itself
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 04:09 PM
Jul 2021

But recently, we had our ancient old China White goose attacked by a hawk. He was 15-20 lbs, and we don't have very large hawks around here. But our Chief had very deep wounds on his back, and smaller ones around his head. He lived one day. Happened mid-morning. Had to be what got him.

We really miss him.

Ziggysmom

(3,407 posts)
2. A fascinating read. I'd like to ask Dr. DeSilva his opinion regarding what is making today's
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 11:49 AM
Jul 2021

humans becoming stupid, leading to our own demise.

KS Toronado

(17,235 posts)
8. The answer to that question is very simple.....
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 01:21 PM
Jul 2021

reQublicans, FQX noise, 7QQ club, OANN, Breitbart, Qanonsense, oligarchs, etc.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
14. sex on the wrong brain. humans started 50-50 right and left handed like our apish ancestors but
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 01:55 PM
Jul 2021

now we're 90-10. sex on the wrong brain theory suggests it makes a difference which hand/brain hemisphere we associate sex with and those differences - fear of uncertainty, greed, lower empathy, etc were advantageous in times of conflict and scarcity.

the sowb theory suggests populations selecting for particular preferred sowb symptoms basically means predispositions for greed, racism, sexism, extremism, authoritarianism etc are heritable, especially in 'old world' descendants.

that basically means isis, taliban, proud boys, trumpism, etc are just manifestations of a masturbation cult

from sexonthewrongbrain.com/theory/

EVOLUTION, RIGHT HANDEDNESS, AND THE ‘SOWB GENE’

Anthropologists believe early human ancestors started out about 50-50 right and left handed, like the chimps and apes of today, but have had little success explaining why humans became increasingly right handed. Eventually about 100,000 years ago humans settled into about 90% right handed.

Right handed dominance is sometimes attributed to tool-making and language development but sex on the wrong brain has been part of human evolution for millions of years before those developments might have become relevant and may offer anthropologists and handedness researchers a better explanation.

Millions of years ago:

Life was short and reproduction began early. Low levels of masturbation and sowb generally.

Selection for sowb and right handedness would accelerate in areas where population densities and fluctuations in resources might cause conflict and favor authoritarian patriarchy over communal cooperation.

Sowb would begin to distort basic hemispheric brain asymmetries as brain complexity and language use increased. Left hemispheric participation increases as right hemispheric participation decreases, limiting patience and objectivity in evaluation and conclusion. Integration and promotion of preferred sowb symptoms begins to influence social structure as well as brain structure and function.

Hundreds of thousands of years ago:

Longer life, higher population densities, and more conflict over resources. Sowb symptoms like greed, fear, intolerance, and authoritarianism increasingly won over curiosity, community, and democratic cooperation. Sowb accelerated as our ancestors progressively began to delay the age of reproduction. Sowb eventually becomes ‘human nature’ and normalized as left handed humans were increasingly ostracized and the proportion of right handed handed humans reaches a 90% dominance about 100,000 years ago.

The last few thousand years:

Longer life, more right handed masturbation and more sowb. Sex on the wrong brain became an increasingly dominant part of the long-lasting authoritarian civilizations which, by default and/or design, created social structures to enforce sexual repression and increase frustration. Populations and cultures could select for particular sowb symptoms that were advantageous for a particular situation or environment, such as for building armies.

So-called civilized ‘Old World’ populations with centuries of sexual repression and frustration might be expected to have more sowb symptoms than ‘New World’ populations and their descendants today. Are differences in cultural attitudes toward nature, uncertainty, and greed apparent in brain function or structure consistent with more vs less sex on the wrong brain?

The last hundred years:

While democratic forms of social organization help growing populations reduce and regulate sowb symptoms like authoritarianism and greed, increased affluence allows more privacy and opportunity for masturbation. The problem is exacerbated by access to mass produced sources of sexual stimulation, such as pornograpy, and use of sexual stimulation for commercial purposes.

Sowb genes?

Geographical, environmental, and cultural preferences for particular sowb symptoms may manifest as inherited characteristics in brain structure and function.

Tumbulu

(6,278 posts)
17. This explains a lot- thanks for sharing this
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jul 2021

You are amazing! Not only are you spot on about hate media ( and the consequences of Democrats and left leaning intellectuals liberals ignoring it ) you now share this.

Thank you for all your contributions to DU.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
18. This has to be a joke .
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jul 2021

From your link:


Sex on the wrong brain, or sowb, is what happens when impatient satisfaction-demanding sex energy fuels brain functions that require patience and objectivity.

Sowb is caused by masturbation with the right hand, which is connected to the left brain hemisphere. Motion of the right hand is controlled by and can stimulate activity in the left hemisphere. By default, most humans in modern developed societies have their first sexual experiences with the wrong hand. Continued sex with the right hand can program long lasting neural pathways that may continue to divert sex energy to the left brain long after real sex.


 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. the theory isn't, been around 30 yrs, but the book is hilarious.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jul 2021

the first sentence there might be better. is 'sex energy' a real thing? and 'associates with' or 'interferes with' might be more accurate than 'fuels'

could anyone get funding to seriously study such a thing in a society plagued and limited by sex on the wrong brain and sexual repression?

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
25. I love it, and I am happy you posted it.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jul 2021

It’s fun to find internet ridiculousness. I’m old, and I remember when there was always something new and strange to come across by random internet surfing.

There are lots of memes and things now, but fully fleshed-out content like this is a gem.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
28. Makes Me Hungry For A Bowl Of Mr. Kellogg's Cornflakes, Sir
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 05:15 PM
Jul 2021


"The influence of coffee in stimulating the genital organs is notorious."



Hugin

(33,140 posts)
22. I've been correct all along and didn't even know it...
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 03:05 PM
Jul 2021

I've always described what has become Trumpism as an "I'll only do it until I need glasses" mentality gone mainstream.

Heh, yeah... or a "masturbation cult".

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
15. My guess would be that we are becoming less communal,
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jul 2021

Darwin's idea of "survival of the fittest" was cooperation within a social group for survival, as opposed to the libertarians ideal of every man for himself. That and our modern lifestyle makes us soft. Sure we have modern medicine to live longer, but the really early humans had a cleaner environment and healthier food, and far more exercise.

Random Boomer

(4,168 posts)
7. I'm with you
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jul 2021

What intelligence we have is often swamped by our emotions and is used to create complex rationalizations for the things we do.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
19. The stupid ones did not live long enough to breed.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jul 2021

Stupid is being allowed to creep back into the gene pool because living is pretty easy.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
29. Still reading but this paragraph taught me so much and just plain blew me away....
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:18 AM
Jul 2021

...

Baby chimpanzees and baboons cling to the fronts or wide backs of their mothers. Being upright means we have to physically carry our kids. So now Lucy is physically carrying her kid. Now, in her arms, she’s got this little fleshy meal for any carnivore, and she needs to go find food for herself in an environment littered with predators. And yet she survived! What an amazing testament to the resilience of our ancestors. Their survival is why we’re here.
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