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babylonsister

(171,036 posts)
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 02:39 PM Jul 2021

The Rude Pundit: Emotions Experienced While Watching the New York Times Video on the January 6 Ins

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7/02/2021
Emotions Experienced While Watching the New York Times Video on the January 6 Insurrection


If you haven't yet, you should absolutely watch the 40-minute video blow-by-blow of the January 6 uprising at the U.S. Capitol that was produced by the New York Times. If you're like me, you will go through some things as you watch the consortium of copious cretins and countless cunts attack the center of our democracy to try to stop it in its tracks from certifying the fair and lawful election of Joe Biden. I thought a bunch of shit, like:

1. I remembered when I marched in a peaceful protest at the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis/St. Paul in 2008. I ended up with a group of Code Pink activists, and when we left the park where we had gathered and headed into the downtown area, the streets were solidly lined with cops in riot gear. It was goddamn wall of helmets, bulletproof vests, and black batons at the ready, all the cops armed, with snipers on the roofs, staring down at us through their scopes. I tried to interview some of the police, but, you know, they weren't in the mood to be friendly. It was meant to intimidate us and meant to keep us in line, with the idea being that if we stepped out of where we were supposed to be, we'd be met with intense force by some motherfuckers just aching to ruin our days. Yeah, I couldn't help but think about those cops and all the cops that were a constant presence at Occupy Wall Street and at other protests when the Times video showed how essentially a skeleton crew of Capitol police were on duty on a day when fucking truck horns were blowing about how there was going to be premeditated and planned violence against the Capitol itself.

2. I know we say a lot that it's really kind of miraculous that no members of Congress or their staffs were taken hostage or strung up by the cretins and cunts in the crowd that scampered through the building like a pack of starved curs off-leash and looking for blood. But, to me, what was even more miraculous is that the police didn't gun these motherfuckers down by the dozens. And, yeah, yeah, we can say with a fair amount of certainty that if the Capitol had been rampaged through by Black Lives Matter protesters or Muslim activists, the marble would have become a morgue. But that doesn't really cover every single one of those officers. We've seen tons of situations where cops shoot someone walking towards them with a knife, yet the police officers outside the Capitol didn't draw their weapons while being beaten by the crowd with flagpoles and batons, while having their eyes gouged and being sprayed with bear mace. I've read that they knew they were badly outnumbered and feared the crowd getting even more violent, but that doesn't explain the almost entire lack of gunfire. The police were restrained (heroically so, in some cases) while it was pandemonium, and a whole lot of assholes should be grateful that they were.

3. Yeah, okay, you wanna bring up Ashli Babbitt, the one person shot and killed by an officer as she was about to breach the doorway to the Speaker of the House's lobby? You go right ahead, but if I'm being totally honest here, and why the fuck not, fuck Ashli Babbitt. I don't fucking care. Watch the video. She was about to leap through the window where there were cops with their guns drawn, telling her to stop. She didn't. She was on a mission to undo the election, and she had already committed violence and probably wanted to do more, with those around her shattering windows and breaking doors. Fuck her. Fuck her and fuck everyone turning a traitor into a martyr. And you know what else? Fuck the other rioters who died, like the Q-Anon crazy who was crushed to death by other crazies, like the guys who died of a heart attack or stroke. I feel bad for their families, sure, yeah, I guess. But the ones who died? They were adults who made adult decisions that got them fucking killed. I think of them the same way I think of the Confederate soldiers whose rotted bodies pollute our American soil.

4. If I haven't been clear, the rioters were plainly, in their own words, there to invade the House and the Senate and halt the election certification. They were there to fuck shit up (as more than one announced). Some were in organized groups, like the self-fellaters known as the Proud Boys and the twatmites known as the Oath Keepers. Most seemed to be a conglomeration of random shitheels and fucknuts who wanted to get their white rage on. Sure, you could make a case that this was a bunch of military LARPers who got out of control. Except there were real fucking soldiers in there, even some active duty. But not a goddamn one of them didn't understand that what they were doing was breaking the law. They just thought they were the law, that they were righteous, that Donald fucking Trump's mad insistence that it was a "stolen election," which was really just his desperation to stave off prison and bankruptcy, gave them some kind of imprimatur of official status, that their defeated president would pardon them, even. It doesn't matter that they really believed in their cause (although I'm guessing many were just getting off on the violence). It doesn't matter that they were lied to and continue to be lied to. You wanna sit at home and wallow in your ignorance and hatred, fine. You wanna bring that shit out and try to overthrown the government by violence? You fucking get what you deserve: hundreds of people under arrest and being whiny bitches about it.

5. Another thing that comes through is just how disgusting the vast, vast majority of the GOP is in denying their complicity in making January 6 happen and in their concerted effort to scrub the insurrectionist intent of the events of the day. There's flaccid cock Andrew Clyde going from cowering behind armed law enforcement to pronouncing that the rioters were mere "tourists." And the media savages who weren't even there are shown pronouncing that the whole thing is overblown. Watch the events. The rioting fucks have murder in their eyes. Even now, we have the shit-slicked worms that lead the GOP, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell, refusing to allow for an independent commission to look into January 6, with McCarthy inhaling Trump's nutsack deeply as he decries any effort to investigate things by Congress. And then there are the slop-sucking piglets of the nutzoid right, like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Paul Gosar, who always looks like he's worried he's gonna be caught masturbating to images of dead immigrants on his work computer. Lauren Boebert, who is Marjorie Taylor Greene without the charm, is palling around with one of the extremists who attacked the Capitol because of course she is.

6. No, you right-wing dickheads, we can't get past January 6 until the motherfuckers who caused it are held accountable. If you don't want that, then that means you know who is responsible. And it's not just Trump and Giuliani and Matt Gaetz and Alex Jones and the other raging whores who spoke to the crowds. It's not just the ones openly provoking it. It's people like you who cheered it on and who want it to go away before the jig is up.
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The Rude Pundit: Emotions Experienced While Watching the New York Times Video on the January 6 Ins (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2021 OP
Get your ass to the greatest page I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #1
Pundit nailed it..AGAIN! 634-5789 Jul 2021 #2
On Ashli Babbitt Warpy Jul 2021 #3
these people pose a problem that will be hard to solve NJCher Jul 2021 #21
I remember violent lefties here and there in the 60s and 70s Warpy Jul 2021 #30
Your last paragraph nails it. x1000! Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #35
When announced "the building has been breached bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #54
Kickin' Faux pas Jul 2021 #4
AMEN! nancy1942 Jul 2021 #5
I'm 16 minutes into it & every bit as pissed as Rude. CrispyQ Jul 2021 #6
Thanks for the link. I saved it to watch tomorrow. Vinca Jul 2021 #14
Kicking for later viewing. smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #28
Thank you for providing the link. StarryNite Jul 2021 #34
Hard to watch so much misguided hatred, but, thanks for the link. FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #38
I watched it live on 1/6. Hugin Jul 2021 #7
9. They started charging the crimes against press Latter part of this week- R/F VicNEO Jul 2021 #10
Good, hopefully that will tamp down some of the free speech blather slopping around. Hugin Jul 2021 #13
It is difficult to watch and re-live that day bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #55
I'm with The Rude One: More of those coup-seeking assholes deserved to be shot. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #8
They started charging the crimes against press VicNEO Jul 2021 #9
I agree completely. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2021 #59
Well said. It was an open-and-obvious coup attempt. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #62
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2021 #74
I just wish skydive forever Jul 2021 #11
I love Rude Pundit Nevilledog Jul 2021 #12
KnR Hekate Jul 2021 #15
Too many "experts" are agreeing that the GOP will take control of the House in 2022. world wide wally Jul 2021 #16
God, I hope you're right. I really do. But the American people can be REALLY stupid. n/t PatrickforB Jul 2021 #18
Yes they can, but mrsadm Jul 2021 #49
Indeed. Every word. PatrickforB Jul 2021 #17
Shit wryter2000 Jul 2021 #19
You'd feel very uncomfortable in most pubs in England and Ireland RVN VET71 Jul 2021 #42
I think I might try to explain wryter2000 Jul 2021 #46
In a line with which I have found myself often in disagreement RVN VET71 Jul 2021 #61
Thank you wryter2000 Jul 2021 #64
Why be an absolutist, about one word? Mopar151 Jul 2021 #43
How do you feel about the N word wryter2000 Jul 2021 #45
XACLY! Shoeless Louis Jul 2021 #48
So, why is it "cretins and cunts"? wryter2000 Jul 2021 #51
Alliteration. mnhtnbb Jul 2021 #57
He's a good writer, so he can call a Black person an N? wryter2000 Jul 2021 #65
I'm not a fan of the word police. mnhtnbb Jul 2021 #71
Are you a fan of the N word? Does it not offend you when used by a white person? wryter2000 Jul 2021 #72
I am old school. Not offended by words. mnhtnbb Jul 2021 #73
Then you don't mind hate speech wryter2000 Jul 2021 #75
This isn't about me. mnhtnbb Jul 2021 #76
I have to take a stand. Shoeless Louis Jul 2021 #47
Thank you! wryter2000 Jul 2021 #50
There are times the word is appropriate to use. mnhtnbb Jul 2021 #56
Would you say the same about the N word? wryter2000 Jul 2021 #63
fwiw, babylonsister Jul 2021 #60
That's not disparaging? Read it again. wryter2000 Jul 2021 #66
That is among a limited number of words I refuse to use, wryter2000. Hugin Jul 2021 #68
Thank you wryter2000 Jul 2021 #70
Never forget this was also a Fox News riot too Botany Jul 2021 #20
The truth hurts...Rude this brought Amens and tears it hurts to think about it StClone Jul 2021 #22
when I first started to watch it, mountain grammy Jul 2021 #23
K&R spanone Jul 2021 #24
Best one yet. Thank you Rude Pundit! ffr Jul 2021 #25
K&R sheshe2 Jul 2021 #26
🇺🇸 underpants Jul 2021 #27
Thank you, Rude One, colorado_ufo Jul 2021 #29
i was out shopping for 4 hours and i cant leave the computer with things falling AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #31
We watched it last night mcar Jul 2021 #32
KR! Cha Jul 2021 #33
Wouldn't it be nice greblach Jul 2021 #36
It would have been nice for them to be there to keep them out bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #52
Without question that was what should have happened greblach Jul 2021 #67
Rude nailed it. Let's see more arrests, especially of promoters, organizers and GOP enablers Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #37
Absolutely, investigate, charge, arrest, try, convict and jail the fuckers bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #53
Truth. K&R crickets Jul 2021 #39
this belongs in the Rude hall of fame.... bahboo Jul 2021 #40
Big K&R. nt tblue37 Jul 2021 #41
Rude is right. As usual. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2021 #44
I feel you man. sarchasm Jul 2021 #58
In my lifetime RazBerryBeret Jul 2021 #69

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
3. On Ashli Babbitt
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jul 2021

I watched the same video last night as it played that whole scene. The crowd of rioting traitors froze for just a few seconds. Given the House's reluctance to close proceedings until Chin Diaper Gosar had lied sufficiently, that few seconds is most likely what allowed them to escape. That's how close it was.

I have no sympathy for any of those people. They chose lies over truth. They were so out of control their own families turned them in, hoping getting smacked in the face with criminal charges would wake them up.

What I hope is that it doesn't stop with them. I want the organizers, funders, propagandist, end every other behind the scenes instigator of this near coup d'etat named, shamed, prosecuted, fined into poverty, and thrown into prison.



NJCher

(35,625 posts)
21. these people pose a problem that will be hard to solve
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jul 2021
I have no sympathy for any of those people.

They are so filled with rage that I am just floored every time I see this footage. I cannot believe any normal person would be this angry and then direct it all toward the government in a way that is so destructive.

It is the perfect storm:

--angry people who want to blame "the other" (meaning minorities),

--people like trump who capitalize on their emotions for their own gain,

--a right wing media structure that has been honed to take advantage of the dysfunctional emotions of such people, again for profit.

Add it all up and it is a complex problem to solve long term.

I do not think the latter two items excuse them in any way. They were given a free public education. They should know better. As you say, they chose lies.

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
30. I remember violent lefties here and there in the 60s and 70s
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 05:01 PM
Jul 2021

probably 90% male, had absolutely no idea what they were doing, either.

However, most of us were a lot more peaceful about ending the war and accomplishing other goals, some of which we actually managed.

It must have been the drugs.

In any case, while these people were dupes, they were willing dupes who gravitated to extremist horseshit, probably because they thought it would give them an edge over the plodding masses in an "I know something you don't know" kind of way.

Idiots.

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
54. When announced "the building has been breached
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:20 AM
Jul 2021

Last edited Sun Jul 4, 2021, 07:40 AM - Edit history (1)

The thought was that someone had gotten in, not hundreds, close to thousands had come in from all sides of the building.

Hugin

(33,059 posts)
7. I watched it live on 1/6.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jul 2021

There are a few things I have yet to see addressed. Such as the gathering up and destruction of Press equipment outside of the Capitol building. Also, the threats issued toward and physical assault of members of the Press.

I haven't seen anyone charged for those crimes.

Hugin

(33,059 posts)
13. Good, hopefully that will tamp down some of the free speech blather slopping around.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 03:33 PM
Jul 2021

With them, you're only free to speak, if you're saying what they want you to say.

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
55. It is difficult to watch and re-live that day
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:22 AM
Jul 2021

There was so much we did not know that we know now after all of the pieces have been sewn together.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,092 posts)
59. I agree completely.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 07:39 AM
Jul 2021

As the Rude One said, if this had been a BLM protest they would have needed trucks to haul away the bodies. Yet, there was no defense other than strong words. I refuse to believe that this was just a bunch of losers engaging in dick waving. This was planned and it was planned by those who had the most to gain from it. Now, who might that group of traitors be? Because I have not seen anyone other than the foot soldiers in jail. Why is that? In a murder case, being an accessory is seen as just as bad as being the killer. Why is this not being applied? Face it... there is WAY more to this story, and we may never know the entire thing in our lifetime. But, it is obvious to me that this was a coup... regardless of what these rethugs want to say while they try and distance themselves from what was completely their doing

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
16. Too many "experts" are agreeing that the GOP will take control of the House in 2022.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 03:46 PM
Jul 2021

I beg to differ.
People just don't like this shit and the video is a good reminder of who they are.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
42. You'd feel very uncomfortable in most pubs in England and Ireland
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 09:31 PM
Jul 2021

There the word is usually used pejoratively -- sometimes jocularly so. But its usage there doesn’t really conjure in the drinker’s mind the female genitalia . It’s much the same as you might hear reference here to a Republican Senator -- any one of them -- as a dick.

But if the word itself makes you cringe, I get it. It does me too. But were I able to frequent the above referenced pubs, I think my own antipathy to the word would fade because of the casual manner of its use, and the pleasantly numbing qualities of Guinness and Bass Ale.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
46. I think I might try to explain
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 11:05 PM
Jul 2021

Why this word is hurtful. I imagine lots of good people would understand.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
61. In a line with which I have found myself often in disagreement
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:02 AM
Jul 2021

Hamlet said something like “Nothing is ever good or bad but thinking makes it so.”

This is, it seems to me, moral surrender. And I think the Bard may have intended it as such.

However, in the case of language, the claim seems to hold up. Words that were once neutral -- the “n” word for example -- are currently and with good reason considered ugly and hurtful. On the other hand, Yanks visiting England in days not long gone by often evoked shocked and angry looks from people when they used the word “bloody” in normal conversation.

So it is with, let me call it the “c” word. Its hurtfulness depends on where you are, actually. In America, it’s a vicious word intended to attack a male’s masculinity. In the UK and Ireland, in my experience, not so much. (And, no, I do not mean to imply that using said “c” word in normal, casual conversation in England wouldn’t raise an eyebrow and make your listener wonder whether you were in your cups. It’s strictly a male-used word for the pubs, for the blue-collar work place, the sporting arena, etc.)

At any rate, I think I understand the hurtfulness of the word -- and if I lapse, my partner of 50 years reminds me with a tongue lashing. But I also understand its different meaning and connotation in other countries and contexts.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
64. Thank you
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:41 AM
Jul 2021

And I would avoid using "bloody" in the UK unless I was speaking about blood. Just common courtesy.

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
43. Why be an absolutist, about one word?
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 09:55 PM
Jul 2021

Particularly that one, which is in VERY common usage in other (UK, OZ) English speaking cultures.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
51. So, why is it "cretins and cunts"?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:06 AM
Jul 2021

There’s no word there that mentions men. Only one Just one that singles out women, not men.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
72. Are you a fan of the N word? Does it not offend you when used by a white person?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:36 PM
Jul 2021

Using it is something you do. Using it is an intentional racist act.

So far, no one in this subthread has defended using the N word, but it's okay to call a woman a C.

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
73. I am old school. Not offended by words.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 06:44 PM
Jul 2021

Sticks and stones...

I am offended by acts of discrimination against anyone, whether black and brown folk, women, LGBTQ, non "Christian", or any other group being deprived of rights which typically have been reserved to white males, especially rich white males.

Free speech means just that to me. Uncensored. I'm not going to tell anyone else what words to use.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
75. Then you don't mind hate speech
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:48 PM
Jul 2021

You still haven't said...Would you use the N word? Would you call them that to their face? Yes or no, so I know who you truly are.

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
76. This isn't about me.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:20 PM
Jul 2021

The OP is about an essay by The Rude Pundit. A few folk on here objected to some of his language. I am defending his Constitutional right to free speech. I am not going to censor him.

You have a right not to like his language. I refuse to be intimidated by you because I stand for defending his right to choose his own words.

That's it. End of message.

Shoeless Louis

(73 posts)
47. I have to take a stand.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 11:11 PM
Jul 2021

Count me in your court. And I don’t buy into the justification that everybody’s doing it which is what it sounded like they were saying here. Everybody’s doing it or that’s the way we’ve always done it is never an excuse or reason for doing the wrong thing.

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
56. There are times the word is appropriate to use.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:58 AM
Jul 2021

And in this case, with how the Rude One employs it, I have no problem.

babylonsister

(171,036 posts)
60. fwiw,
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:09 AM
Jul 2021

I also hate that particular word, but I give the RP a pass as he's not aiming it at a woman in a disparaging way. I wouldn't give many if any others a pass though.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
66. That's not disparaging? Read it again.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:47 AM
Jul 2021

My own father once called a Black person "a damned good N." Was that fine? He didn't do it within the person's hearing.

Hugin

(33,059 posts)
68. That is among a limited number of words I refuse to use, wryter2000.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:05 PM
Jul 2021

Along with the recently added, "Trump". (Although, I'm considering reviving it's reference to loud flatulence.)

To be honest, it is squarely in my background to use that particular word. So, to omit it is a conscious choice on my part.

I've found there are a universe of alternatives which are as or more foul. Which, have the benefit of being precisely targetable.

Why use a nuke when a map pin will do?

It is an issue when I try to keep an open mind and read through the thoughts and writings of someone who still has my omitted words among their throwaway vocabulary. But, I try to forge through and read what they're trying to say without making judgements as to how they chose to say it. Only, if it's someone who I believe has something to say.

Thanks for mentioning your reaction. That's where change starts.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
20. Never forget this was also a Fox News riot too
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 04:03 PM
Jul 2021

2 days prior to the violent attack on America Fox's morning blond was pushing the lie that "lots of people still have questions about the election."

StClone

(11,682 posts)
22. The truth hurts...Rude this brought Amens and tears it hurts to think about it
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 04:22 PM
Jul 2021

Why were these m'fers not gunned down? WHY!? Why a pass?

mountain grammy

(26,600 posts)
23. when I first started to watch it,
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 04:22 PM
Jul 2021

I thought, I can't watch this for 40 minutes. Then it was over. In a snap. It was like watching a thriller movie. At times I covered my eyes and by the end I was shaking and my stomach was in knots..
They trampled one of their own. I hope they covered her with the yellow "don't tread on me" flag because I don't care.
Like Rude said, fuck her, fuck these people. I despise all republicans. They are thugs and thieves and killers.

AllaN01Bear

(18,016 posts)
31. i was out shopping for 4 hours and i cant leave the computer with things falling
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 05:07 PM
Jul 2021

apart whilst i am gone . a buddy in the eurozone was franticly skypeing me with the horrible news . im still in shock. but love our current prez and veep. thanks rude pundit.

greblach

(257 posts)
36. Wouldn't it be nice
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 05:26 PM
Jul 2021

No not the Beach Boys song, I am thinking a massive ring of national guard troops that made sure that anyone that invaded that day (inside or outside) were at least identified for future arrest...or a whole bunch of buses lined up to take them to a secure site for processing...

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
52. It would have been nice for them to be there to keep them out
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:16 AM
Jul 2021

They we would not have e to worry about who was there as the answer would have been no one.

Evolve Dammit

(16,702 posts)
37. Rude nailed it. Let's see more arrests, especially of promoters, organizers and GOP enablers
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 05:32 PM
Jul 2021

It was a fucking coup attempt FCS, based on lies and whipping them up by Orange Anus himself, for weeks. "Come to the Capitol. Gonna be wild." Why he is free is beyond me. HE caused this.

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
53. Absolutely, investigate, charge, arrest, try, convict and jail the fuckers
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:18 AM
Jul 2021

Who were there to end American Democracy!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
44. Rude is right. As usual.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 10:47 PM
Jul 2021

I don't think I'll be watching the video, though. I've seen a lot of the footage and it's just too disturbing and on so many levels--not least the fact that many of my fellow Americans are so delusional or downright hateful that they condone or excuse the Trump humping insurrectionists.

Doing what I can to help get the motherfuckers who incite and tolerate this RW thuggery out of power, but after a lifetime of reading about and watching video of evil, violent sociopaths, I just can't do it anymore.

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