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Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 05:34 PM Jul 2021

If you're a dangerous criminal/cartel member, why would you want to immigrate here?

Every time I hear some right winger say that we need to crack down on immigration to prevent drug lords and violent criminals from crossing the southern border, it just makes no logical sense.

Those people are the alphas, the ones who can harm others with impunity, especially in countries with rampant corruption - i.e., where you can pay off the police, judges, lawmakers, etc. They have no reason to come to a country like the U.S., with a much more developed criminal justice system.

I may be missing something, but logic dictates that the majority of the people crossing the southern border are people fleeing those criminals. Right?

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If you're a dangerous criminal/cartel member, why would you want to immigrate here? (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Jul 2021 OP
It is logical that the reTHUGS want to keep all the criminal activity for themselves. abqtommy Jul 2021 #1
good point treestar Jul 2021 #2
Exactly. They live like kings there. Why would they Phoenix61 Jul 2021 #3
The FBI seems to disagree with you. former9thward Jul 2021 #4
I don't think that's what the FBI said... stillcool Jul 2021 #6
It's Willie Sutton logic. Criminals want to come to USA because that's where the money is. Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #5
If you think that Mexico is only sending drug dealers and rapists, keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #7

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
3. Exactly. They live like kings there. Why would they
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jul 2021

subject themselves to sneaking into a place that puts them at the bottom. But that’s all about facts and you know they confuse Trumpsters.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
6. I don't think that's what the FBI said...
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jul 2021


Perkins: What we do have on the U.S. side of the border are kidnappings, corruption issues, and the illegal drug trade that goes through. The cash that's flowing south, the weapons that are flowing south, and the drugs that are flowing north.

Narrator: To combat the drug trafficking organizations and other criminal elements on the border, the FBI partners with Mexican law enforcement and many federal, state, and local agencies on task forces targeting drugs, violent crime and public corruption. The stakes are high Just one corrupt border guard could potentially put the entire country at risk.

Kevin Perkins, assistant director, Criming Investigative Division: The problem we have with the corrupt border guards, someone who's at that border checkpoint, who can wave a truckload of whatever through-- that could be a truckload of narcotics, it could be a truckload of illegal aliens, it could be pieces to the next dirty bomb that comes into this country.

Narrator: The Bureau devotes significant resources to fighting crimes along the border. We have 12 border corruption task forces in the region staffed with apporximately 120 special agents. We have border liaison officers who work one-on-one with their law enforcement counterparts in Mexico. Our agents and analysts work on gang and violent crime squads gathering intelligence and building cases against drug traffickers and a range of other crimes that usually involve extreme violence.

Perkins: The thing that's most concerning to me is really the out-of-control violence that is on the Mexican side of the border that we're seeing … And it's not just 7,000 murders, it's the brutal violence, it's torture, it's the complete and utter disregard for human life all based upon the greed and the wealth that's coming from drug trafficking.

Midnight Writer

(21,762 posts)
5. It's Willie Sutton logic. Criminals want to come to USA because that's where the money is.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 06:35 PM
Jul 2021

The dream of being Scarface, with suitcases full of drugs and money and mansions full of beautiful women.

Of course, the majority of the people coming are looking to fulfill a more wholesome dream, but it is our image of prosperity and opportunity and stability that draws all sorts of folks.

keithbvadu2

(36,799 posts)
7. If you think that Mexico is only sending drug dealers and rapists,
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 08:21 PM
Jul 2021

If you think that Mexico is only sending drug dealers and rapists,
but also worry that Mexicans are going to take your job...

What do you do for a living?


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