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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:35 AM Jul 2021

Resident of older waterfront high rises are uneasy..keeping go bag by the door

SURFSIDE, Fla. — After the Champlain Towers South Condo collapsed a couple of miles away from his home, Miami Beach resident Dan Ribeiro began feverishly snapping photos of what he said were concerning conditions in the garage of his high-rise — a condo taller and older than the one that partially collapsed in Surfside.

He is so worried about the cracked concrete, rusted steel and water leaking inside the garage of the Maison Grande Condominium that he now has a "go-bag" by the front door with essential documents, a change of clothes for him and his wife and gift cards for hotel stays.

"It's just scary," Ribeiro, 39, said.

Second to the grief that South Floridians feel for those who died in the Surfside collapse and their families, a feeling of uneasiness has washed over some residents living in older, waterfront condo towers. They are now sounding the alarm about what they fear may be potentially perilous conditions in their buildings.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/2021/07/04/are-we-next-worried-high-rise-dwellers-take-photos-seek-answers-after-surfside/

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Resident of older waterfront high rises are uneasy..keeping go bag by the door (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jul 2021 OP
Poor peoe! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #1
Yeah..hopefully an inspection will put their minds at ease Demovictory9 Jul 2021 #9
how many flights of stairs can they run down in about 30 seconds? lapfog_1 Jul 2021 #2
More like 3 seconds, or 0.3 seconds... So zero flights of stairs. RockRaven Jul 2021 #6
I agree. EndlessWire Jul 2021 #12
I'm with you, that was my first thought also. secondwind Jul 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #14
I saw an article on a realtor who listed an apartment from the sister building the day of the Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #15
Is the use of jetpacks finally about to take off? Klaralven Jul 2021 #16
True, although there were stories of the building making creaking sounds the day before. tanyev Jul 2021 #19
I wonder how much they could get if they wanted to sell right now JI7 Jul 2021 #3
Serious market value drop since 2 week ago but opportunist Demovictory9 Jul 2021 #8
Jesus. And I bet they will have a hard time selling now. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #4
Only a handful of people in Champlain Towers had enough time to get out. NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #5
Not only that but the chance they lose the equity they have in their home, possibly all their PortTack Jul 2021 #7
How could you possibly get a good night's sleep? smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #10
Millions in home values wiped away. Renew Deal Jul 2021 #11
The survivors in this building would get insurance, I imagine. It is the people in the Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #17
I agree Renew Deal Jul 2021 #18
They should compare the circumstances and make a quick decision. ecstatic Jul 2021 #20

lapfog_1

(29,204 posts)
2. how many flights of stairs can they run down in about 30 seconds?
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 12:59 AM
Jul 2021

A pancake event is unlikely to give a lot more notice than that. And elevators would be a death trap.

The best "go bag" is a "gone bag" as in we are outa here.

Don't know what happens to your investment. But whatever happens is better than dying from it.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
6. More like 3 seconds, or 0.3 seconds... So zero flights of stairs.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:49 AM
Jul 2021

If they are unwilling or unable (and I'm not dismissing that as a real thing for some people) to move, then instead of a "go" bag maybe they ought to stash their valuables/irreplaceables/important documents and a few material essentials off-site, so IF they survive (including by not being present during a collapse) they still have their important stuff and some clothes/toiletries. And if they don't, they'll be dead and won't be able to care, but their surviving relatives will benefit from having the important documents etc.

EndlessWire

(6,531 posts)
12. I agree.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 04:18 AM
Jul 2021

It may be psychologically comforting to them, but this situation calls for them to move out to anywhere else. The go bag will only help to identify them in the rubble.

I am very sorry all this has happened to these people. Easy to say "move out" but at least we can offer our opinions. I'd move out. Go visit some understanding relative or friend. Let your instincts guide you.

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Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
15. I saw an article on a realtor who listed an apartment from the sister building the day of the
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:37 AM
Jul 2021

collapse. The apartment listed for 1.3 million.

That mortgage obligation doesn't go away.

What a mess.

tanyev

(42,558 posts)
19. True, although there were stories of the building making creaking sounds the day before.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 09:09 AM
Jul 2021

Sad the residents weren't alarmed enough to clear out then.

Man Says Mom Heard 'Creaking Noises' Coming From Surfside Condo One Day Before It Collapsed

The son of a woman who lived in the 12-story condo building that collapsed in Florida on Thursday morning said she reported noises coming from the structure just one day before the tragedy.

Miami resident Pablo Rodriguez told CNN that his mother and grandmother have not been located following the partial collapse of Champlain Towers South Condo in Surfside, Florida, at around 1:30 a.m. on Thursday. The two lived together in the upscale, 136-unit apartment complex, which contained condominiums priced from hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, CNN reported.

Rodriguez told the outlet his mother called him one day before a wing of the building fell to tell him she heard noises loud enough to disturb her from her sleep.

"She just told me she had woken up around 3 [or] 4 in the morning and had heard like, some creaking noises," he told CNN. "They were loud enough to wake her."

https://people.com/human-interest/man-says-mother-heard-creaking-noises-coming-from-her-surfside-building-before-collapse/

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
4. Jesus. And I bet they will have a hard time selling now.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:02 AM
Jul 2021

Would you buy an older condo on the beach in South Florida now!

NH Ethylene

(30,811 posts)
5. Only a handful of people in Champlain Towers had enough time to get out.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:05 AM
Jul 2021

With or without a go-bag.

I would be terrified to live in one of those older buildings right now, listening for every groan or creak and wondering if it was a sign of imminent collapse.

PortTack

(32,767 posts)
7. Not only that but the chance they lose the equity they have in their home, possibly all their
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 01:56 AM
Jul 2021

Possessions. Insurance companies are already talking about new regulations to insure. And...who’s gonna buy into that now? They were already facing issues of rising sea waters, now this

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. How could you possibly get a good night's sleep?
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 03:05 AM
Jul 2021

I would be out of there so fast, but who is going to be buying now? I really feel sorry for those people. They are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
11. Millions in home values wiped away.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 04:14 AM
Jul 2021

And although the beach always attracts certain people, it’s tough to feel safe “investing” money in a beachfront real estate right now.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
17. The survivors in this building would get insurance, I imagine. It is the people in the
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 08:06 AM
Jul 2021

sister building and similar buildings who are going to lose their shirts.

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
20. They should compare the circumstances and make a quick decision.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 10:00 AM
Jul 2021

With the South Champlain Tower, we're talking about a building that was already sinking into the Earth at unprecedented levels. Then when you add in the flawed pool deck design, poor maintenance, rain, and the major building construction next door that was literally causing the walls to vibrate, the collapse was almost inevitable. They were playing a game of Jenga and it was too late for them to do anything about it.

In my opinion, if there are any residents in nearby condos with similar problems and circumstances, they should leave now. A bag by the door isn't going to cut it if disaster strikes in the middle of the night while you're in a deep sleep.

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