Seth Abramson on Trump direct contact w/ insurrectionists...

[CousinIT]

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MAJOR BREAKING NEWS: Trump Was in Contact with Insurrectionist Leaders on Insurrection Eve

Ivanka possibly lying in a depo went viral this morning. The bigger news that Trump contacted insurrectionist leaders on Insurrection Eve should go viral now.

Reports indicating Donald Trump spoke with insurrectionist leaders on both January 3 and Insurrection Day is now joined by evidence he spoke to them January 5—even as they plotted out January 6.
https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/major-breaking-news-trump-was-in

1/ Mountains of evidence—all compiled by PROOF, with full sourcing—now establishes that Insurrection Day was the work of coordination between the White House, Stop the Steal, InfoWars and the Proud Boys, with the Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, QAnoners and 1AP in support roles.

2/ Donald Trump was *personally* in *direct contact* with Stop the Steal leaders from InfoWars—men who were atop both entities—on December 28, January 3, January 5, and January 6 *at a minimum*. These men incited the insurrection, and *three* helped lead the march on the Capitol.

3/ These individuals were not only in contact with Trump—which happened through Roger Stone and Alex Jones—but also received logistical support from Kimberly Guilfoyle, her agent Caroline Wren, and top Trump adviser Katrina Pierson. This contact was *perpetual* pre-insurrection.

4/ Stop the Steal/InfoWars had foreknowledge from Donald Trump, via Roger Stone, that Pence would not be blocking the certification, and adjusted their plans accordingly. They received constant updates from the White House so they could coordinate their movements on January 6.

5/ Stop the Steal/InfoWars appears to have chosen—in conjunction with the White House—what intel to share with the January 6 mob and what to hold back to maximize the odds there would be chaos at the Capitol. The Willard Hotel was Ground Zero for this massive coordination effort.

6/ The article above includes video of the exact moment three of the leaders of the insurrection—Alex Jones, Owen Shroyer and Ali Alexander—learned of the breach of the Capitol. Owen Shroyer's unguarded reaction is perhaps the most important moment of video in this investigation.

7/ On January 5, the Willard-HQed Stop the Steal/InfoWars effort didn't just meet with Michael Flynn and his son; didn't just meet with Patrick Byrne; it also met with Roger Stone, during which meeting (see the article above) Stone gave it intel so sensitive it couldn't share it.

8/ That information came from Trump himself, and it was given by Trump to Stone so that Stop the Steal/InfoWars could coordinate with Trump how to hide Pence's decision not to intervene in the joint session of Congress in a way that would maximize the mayhem at the U.S. Capitol.

9/ Stop the Steal/InfoWars used its January 5 "intel" from Trump—they use that word—in so many ways that it's almost impossible to count them. That intel led to Stone dropping out of all events on January 6; Alexander and Jones and Shroyer hanging back from the Capitol; and more.

10/ Not to put too fine a point on it: the insurrectionist leaders had it from Donald Trump personally, on Insurrection Eve, that *all arguably legal means of redress*—including an (actually illegal) intervention from Pence—were off the table. And that "intel" changed everything.

11/ After the contact with Trump on Insurrection Eve, Owen Shroyer and the Proud Boys orchestrated the setting of a fire outside the Willard Hotel (and the filming of same) which helped launch a Proud Boy march on Black Lives Matter Plaza that nearly became a riot on January 5.

12/ Ali Alexander, Alex Jones, and Owen Shroyer—insurrectionist cowards who the FBI should have arrested already, based on the sourced and confirmed evidence at PROOF—gave up any hope of an orderly march to the Capitol and hung back, aware of what would happen in their absence.

13/ The BLM Plaza near-riot on January 5 features video of Proud Boys discussing storming the Capitol the next day, including an associate of Owen Shroyer (top lieutenant of Alex Jones). There's a reason Shroyer wasn't surprised when he learned the Capitol was breached January 6.

14/ But also—and this stuns me the most—Trump was so clearly *the* leader of the insurrection that he *lied to Alexander, Jones, and Shroyer* about going to the Capitol and *even* (see the video in the article above) lied to Roger Stone to try to get *him* to go to the Capitol.

15/ We knew that Trump lied to the mob about a) what Pence had told him, and b) his own intention of joining the mob at the Capitol, but the revelation that Trump told Stop the Steal/InfoWars about the *former* revelation but then *lied* to them about the latter is a smoking gun.

16/ Trump was actively manipulating Alexander, Jones, Shroyer, Stone *and* the mob to try to ensure that all of these people/entities (including those under their control, like the Proud Boys) would act as he wanted. He likely lied about going to the Capitol because he worried...

17/ ...that if he told the *truth*—that the Secret Service had informed him days earlier that he couldn't go, and he'd relented to its determination—Stone, Jones, and Shroyer would inform the Proud Boys, which might cause them *not* to lead the attack on the Capitol on January 6.

18/ Major media, Congress, and the FBI are so shockingly behind the investigation at PROOF that they're still focused on whether Trump incited the mob on January 6. Of course he did, but PROOF and other independent investigators have long known January 5 was as or more important.

19/ The most active day for Trump war rooms—at Trump International; the Willard; and the White House—was January 5, as the news that all legal options had been exhausted meant that Trump had to spend *January 5* ensuring that the Capitol got mobbed anyway.

EXCLUSIVE: A Comprehensive Overview of All Five of Donald Trump's January 6 War Rooms

During Insurrection Week, Trump's insurrectionists had at least five secretive war rooms inside Washington. Here's everything we know about each of them so far.
https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/exclusive-a-comprehensive-overview

20/ The investigation at PROOF reveals—across hundreds of major-media and OSINT sources—that the most critical event in the insurrection timeline may have been the Stop the Steal rally on January 5. Most of its speakers knew *it* had to launch the January 6 attack on the Capitol.

21/ That's why all that evening's speakers stopped by the Willard on January 5, pre-rally, to coordinate with Stop the Steal/Infowars—*which had been in touch with Trump*—about a plan of action. Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Patrick Byrne, George Papadopoulos. But that's not all.

22/ Trump's "command center" was in the Willard Hotel. And we're learning that the same militant extremists protecting insurrectionist leaders—Michael Flynn, Patrick Byrne, and others—

—were inside Team Trump's command center on January 6. That story is coming to PROOF tomorrow.
23/ I urge you to retweet the first tweet in this thread. PROOF is running the insurrection investigation the FBI and major media refuse to run and Congress has been unable to run due to GOP obstruction. Everything at PROOF is sourced and harrowing.

This is worse than you think.
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25/ For anyone wondering, I'm commenting at length on the new excerpt from Michael Wolff's forthcoming book in the comments on the article (the article atop this thread). The short version: it's truly atrocious: Wolff has gotten almost everything exactly wrong. It's a *disaster*.

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. More speculative hyperbole and nonsense without any PROOF

Abramson’s record is worse than a broken clock.

The PROOF is behind a paywall, so not likely to go “viral” if he’s the only source with access to this so-called PROOF.

Screaming Headline: Trump in contact with insurrectionist leaders!

Actual story: Roger Stone and Alex Jones may have relayed information they received from Trump, or Trump staffers, to leaders of Oathkeepers and Proud Boys, but there is no PROOF of direct contact between Trump and the insurrectionists

Good lord, what nonsense.

[Grasswire2]

5. Have you been beyond the paywall?

How can you claim there's no proof if you have not looked at what he presents?

I haven't gone there either, but I'm smart enough to consider doing so and not calling his work "nonsense" unless I have seen it.

What I HAVE seen is that some people are very devoted to naysaying wrt Abramson. I'm not sure why that is, but we certainly have seen that phenomenon regarding many truth-tellers over the last decades/

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. If he had PROOF, he'd at least mention the source in tweets

Like, on the record admission from a Stop The Steal organizer that they spoke with Trump directly.

Nope, this is just paywall click bait (note the final tweet explains and pleads with reader to subscribe).

If there is any substance to Abramson’s claims, I expect it will be on tonight’s news, and will be the first order of business for the House Select Committee.

But, most likely, this will vanish in the ether, just like his other speculative claims.

[abqtommy]

2. Can we send them all to Gimo now? asking for a friend

[triron]

3. Need to have independent confirmation of at least some of this before I take it too seriously.

[Bayard]

4. Hope the Congressional committee can confirm at least some of this

[tanyev]

7. K&R