How Republicans could be a legitimate political Party?

[kentuck]

Start anew.

Begin a Third Party with rational Republicans, Independents, and disenchanted "others". Break away from the criminal, white-nationalist Party that took over the Republican Party.

They could compete immediately with the Democratic Party, and the Trump Party would be dumped on the ashbin of history, where it belongs.

This is how they could save their Party, if they had the backbone and the courage to stand up to what is happening in their Party and in our country.

Republicans will never vote for Democrats as they are presently constituted. They need to find a middle road and take it. That is the only way they can save their Party. They must dump the extremists.

[spanone]

1. They appear all too comfortable being the fascist party they are. From Senators on down.

[kentuck]

2. They may appear so...

But I don't think most of them are comfortable at all. Who wants to be part of an immoral, criminal, white-nationalist Party? They have nowhere to go so they stay. They need a leader to get them out of the mess they have gotten the entire country enmeshed .

[Jedi Guy]

3. I think it'll happen eventually. Now is better than sooner, and sooner is better than later. N/T

[JHB]

4. They won't because they'd lose. Every "rational Republican" victory for the last...

...half century has surfed in on a layer of foam. They fostered that foam because it gave them their margin of victory, and now they depend on it. Entire media empires are devoted to foam-cannonades. They're into it so deep that even if they don't swallow the foam they're so thickly coated it that they're blinded.

You noted it yourself: they won't vote for the Democrats as we are presently constituted. But what's so terrible about how we're constituted? What horrors do we possible offer that it's worth it to them to shuffle along supporting people actively tearing down the foundations of what they claim to hold dear?

Nothing, that's what. At least, nothing, if you can be counted as a "rational" Republican. All the excuses start veering away from rational assessments and toward the same caricatures, biases, and peeves that they're supposedly resisting.

They built that.

[kentuck]

5. Yes, they might lose the next election but...

Barry Goldwater lost big, also. They came back from that disaster.

[JHB]

6. Goldwater lost big because rational Republicans voted for the Democrat

A Democrat, mind you, whose policies were much more to "the left" than anything being proposed by Democrats today. Yet today's "rational" Republicans can't bear to hold their noses long enough to break the Raving Monster Looney Party and reassemble the Republicans to their liking.

And because back then conservative hardliners started building the Raving Monster Looney Party.

[kentuck]

7. Both Parties have changed since 1964.

There were liberals and conservatives in both Parties.

[JHB]

8. Yes. Democrats started getting out of the Klansman-Koddling business...

...and Republicans set up recruiting tables to scoop up the people who wouldn't have that.

I think that supports my point more than it does yours.

[kentuck]

9. That is a reality.

I would agree.

If they cannot change, they will go down fighting. But, unfortunately, they will take the rest of us with them.

[lagomorph777]

10. No point dispensing advice to the Reptilians.

What matters is how to utterly crush the entire movement. We have to save America; they are America's worst enemy and must be completely destroyed. After that, the right will find its own way to rise from the ashes. We needn't help them.

[kentuck]

11. Are you buying ammo?

The Jewish people were in a similar situation in Germany ninety years ago. Is that the direction we are headed?

[lagomorph777]

13. I didn't mean to imply violently crushing them.

I meant politically.

I am not a gun nut. That's what the other side does.

[kentuck]

14. That's what the other side does.

Right.

They are not ready to sit down at the table and come to some sort of compromise at this time.

[lagomorph777]

15. Correct. Compromise is inconceivable. We have to drive them from power.

Arrest and prosecute those who are committing crimes. End their siege of America.

[kentuck]

16. Justice Matters.

As Glen Kirschner says..

[ShazamIam]

12. The problem is that economic and political conservatism are inherently anti-democratic.

You can't have the kind of hierarchies that are conservative, the hierarchies where private wealth, the church/religion and a harsh militarized law enforcement are, the government, and be democratic in nature or intent.