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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 09:57 AM Jul 2021

Merrick Garland's Shoes

What should Merrick Garland be doing that he is not doing already?

If there is another violent riot before this summer is over, Merrick Garland could be the scapegoat? Why didn't he do this or why didn't he do that, to stop it?

There are many Trump supporters that truly believe he will be back in the White House before the month of August is gone. If he is not, they will be deeply disappointed, just as they were deeply disappointed that he lost to Joe Biden. Will he once again direct them towards violence? (Will he use the Ashli Bobbit tragedy to convince them that they may be next?)

If the present situation turns worse, it will probably be blamed on Merrick Garland. He knew, just as the whole world knew, that Donald Trump was inciting violence, in the name of "free speech". It wasn't free speech. It was inciting insurrection and sedition.

There is no easy solution for Merrick Garland. It is not politically feasible for him to charge Donald Trump at this time. It would be too divisive and could create violence in itself. The FBI is arresting the insurrectionists as quickly as it finds them. But, so far, they have arrested none of the leaders of the insurrection, which would include Congressmen and Senators. That is not politically possible at this time.

What a drag it must be to be in Merrick Garland's shoes?

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Merrick Garland's Shoes (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2021 OP
Well, he could start by not actively protecting Trump in court. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #1
Spot on! jrthin Jul 2021 #2
He isn't protecting Trump Darwins_Retriever Jul 2021 #3
Give me a break. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #6
Bingo Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #5
Another factor- PsakiPswirli Jul 2021 #4
Why is it politically impossible to arrest the leaders?! Solomon Jul 2021 #7
I believe Merrick Garland believes it is impossible to arrest the political leaders. kentuck Jul 2021 #8
Why do you think he thinks that? Has he said so? Ocelot II Jul 2021 #9
The danger is that the game may be over before it plays out? kentuck Jul 2021 #12
True. Our opinions and our hopes. notinkansas Jul 2021 #26
Um, no, we can't just sit on our thumbs while NY deals with one tiny side-issue. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #14
Sensitive criminal investigations do not normally occur in public. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #16
Publicly, they are protecting Trump in court. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #17
They are protecting the office of the presidency. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #18
They are defiling the office of the presidency. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #20
I don't agree with their position but there's support for it in the law. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #21
No, there is not. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #23
Here's the brief. The issue is whether the Westfall Act applies to a president. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #24
404 error. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #25
Good point. kentuck Jul 2021 #19
I sure hope he does not think that. FM123 Jul 2021 #11
The 'not politically feasible' and 'not politically possible' scenarios notinkansas Jul 2021 #10
I agree with you that it is not going away. kentuck Jul 2021 #13
Letting them go, only to discover they are building pipe bombs, is literally insane. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #15
If they try violence again, Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #22

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. Give me a break.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:13 AM
Jul 2021

He is taking the position that libeling (slandering) somebody who has made a criminal accusation about him, is somehow part of his official duties. That is utter bullshit on its face.

 

PsakiPswirli

(71 posts)
4. Another factor-
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:10 AM
Jul 2021

Donnie Two Scoops appears to be in serious mental decline. Without coordination from the bully pulpit, who can effectively lead these traitorous bastards? The only thing Q is good at is moving the goalposts when his time lines aren't met.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
7. Why is it politically impossible to arrest the leaders?!
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:16 AM
Jul 2021

What do you mean politically impossible to arrest the leaders? That sounds like we can't ever arrest the leaders.

Why oh why do we care so much about the deplorables? How can they ever learn the consequences of their actions if we keep mollycoddling them and giving them a pass because they are stupid.

Oh that's right. Never mind. They are white.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
8. I believe Merrick Garland believes it is impossible to arrest the political leaders.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:18 AM
Jul 2021

Maybe he is right?

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
9. Why do you think he thinks that? Has he said so?
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:25 AM
Jul 2021

It is always politically uncomfortable to prosecute political opponents, but since none have even been charged with federal crimes (yet), arresting them would certainly be jumping the gun. Right now the state of New York is going after the Trump Org, and they aren't finished with that investigation. Let that play out, then see where the DoJ should get involved.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
12. The danger is that the game may be over before it plays out?
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:33 AM
Jul 2021

I think it is a positive development that Trump Org has finally been indicted. That might occupy their time for a while?

None of us know what Merrick Garland thinks about prosecuting political "opponents". We only have our opinions.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. Um, no, we can't just sit on our thumbs while NY deals with one tiny side-issue.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:39 AM
Jul 2021

DOJ needs to be working really hard, 24/7, to discover, arrest, and prosecute all involved in the Insurrection (all the way to the top), and also the Reptilians' other myriad of crimes, such as jailing babies, suppressing votes, sabotaging USPS, etc.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
16. Sensitive criminal investigations do not normally occur in public.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:45 AM
Jul 2021

If the DoJ is investigating Trump they are not going to blab it all over CNN. As the late unlamented Donald Rumsfeld once said, "Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence." We don't know what the DoJ is up to, but considering the NY indictments revealing evidence of federal as well as state tax evasion, they are very likely to be up to something.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
18. They are protecting the office of the presidency.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:52 AM
Jul 2021

I don't agree with the position they have taken but it does have some support in legal precedent. It may be simply that they are hoping for an appellate court decision one way or the other and then they can wash their hands of it. Sometimes government lawyers are stuck with cases they don't like because the law obligates them to defend their client, the government.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. They are defiling the office of the presidency.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:54 AM
Jul 2021

The actions they are defending are not connected with or justified by Trump's former job title. He deserves no such protection; the "Office" deserves better.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. No, there is not.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:58 AM
Jul 2021

The law supports protection for actions that are part of the President's official duties. The actions in question are blatantly not covered.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. 404 error.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jul 2021

Even if (in appropriate cases) the Act applies, the acts in question should clearly not be protected behavior.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
19. Good point.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:53 AM
Jul 2021

I suspect there will be more indictments. This is a starting point, not an ending point. The question is, will it be too late once they get the evidence they need and the guilt is indisputable.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
11. I sure hope he does not think that.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jul 2021

Other countries have put their former presidents and political leaders in jail for their crimes: President Park of South Korea, President Sarkozy of France, Prime Minister Olmert of Israel, President Chen of Taiwan etc.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
10. The 'not politically feasible' and 'not politically possible' scenarios
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jul 2021

become much more likely as time goes on. The gqp has already begun diminishing the severity of 1/6, and that will only get worse as justice is delayed.

Those prosecutions should have started a long time ago. The insurrection is not something to be taken in stride. It demanded as immediate a response as possible. Arresting participants on largely minor charges and then releasing them is not justice.

Garland needs to do better. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear them. Move on.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
13. I agree with you that it is not going away.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:35 AM
Jul 2021

The GQP will not be successful in trying to minimize and push down the memory hole, what happened on January 6th.

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