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Conservatives need to come to terms with this.... (Original Post) Heartstrings Jul 2021 OP
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #1
Someone Needs To Mention This To GB_RN Jul 2021 #2
Nice ace3csusm Jul 2021 #3
They'll just respond with one variation or another of: Aristus Jul 2021 #5
That's When You Reply... GB_RN Jul 2021 #6
I like the Gaston quote... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #8
I think his name was Phillipe Gaston. Aristus Jul 2021 #9
Also known as The Mouse... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #10
"What God says to you... reACTIONary Jul 2021 #19
Jesus never mentioned abortion either in the new testament. KS Toronado Jul 2021 #4
Yeah, that one always throws them ... though my siblings are always able to come up with scripture KPN Jul 2021 #7
That was the first thing that I thought of too when I read this. Thanks! n/t iscooterliberally Jul 2021 #11
Last I checked, it was gawd who murdered thousands of first born Egyptians in their sleep. Probatim Jul 2021 #12
That was King Herod, not God, who issued that order. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #36
Two entirely different bible stories Siwsan Jul 2021 #38
Thanks - I had forgotten about King Herod. Probatim Jul 2021 #40
I bet we could share similar stories Siwsan Jul 2021 #41
I refer to myself as a catholic school lefty. Probatim Jul 2021 #42
And I get to throw Dyslexia into the mix Siwsan Jul 2021 #43
You are correct Leith Jul 2021 #16
That's interesting, never heard of it. KS Toronado Jul 2021 #22
Possibly Numbers 5:11-31 could be interpreted as such. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #24
Yup Leith Jul 2021 #30
THANK YOU!!!!! calimary Jul 2021 #13
Actually Jesus doesn't mention anything in the Bible. Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #14
True, the first writing about him wasn't until 50 years after his supposed death mdbl Jul 2021 #27
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2021 #15
The Constitution doesn't mention God, either ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2021 #17
"in the year of our Lord" is in Article VII former9thward Jul 2021 #26
It's a stretch to call that a "mention" markpkessinger Jul 2021 #32
Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #33
Nonsense . . . markpkessinger Jul 2021 #34
But "A.D." refers to time after the birth of Jesus oldsoftie Jul 2021 #37
Amen Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #18
Separation from Turd and Hate. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #20
This is exactly why "In God We Trust" needs to be removed from our money. roamer65 Jul 2021 #21
K&R spanone Jul 2021 #23
The Constitution says "in the year of our Lord" in Article VII former9thward Jul 2021 #25
That is damned thin soup! aka-chmeee Jul 2021 #39
Conservatives will never come to terms with anything bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #28
We're coming over kicking and screaming. Remember? czarjak Jul 2021 #29
If you really believe in Jesus remember what he said about government. halfulglas Jul 2021 #31
YeahButButBut, Jesus wrote the Bible in Amurican English for a reason!!! griloco Jul 2021 #35

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
5. They'll just respond with one variation or another of:
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jul 2021

"When I spoke with the Lord this morning, He told me to make America a Christian nation!"

It's always something for which there is no evidence of any kind, and always conforms to the speaker's own wishes.

GB_RN

(2,347 posts)
6. That's When You Reply...
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 01:06 PM
Jul 2021

"If you're hearing voices in your head, you need to see a psychiatrist, immediately! That's called schizophrenia, it can be dangerous, both to you and others, but it can be treated!"😁

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
8. I like the Gaston quote...
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jul 2021

“Sir, the truth is, I talk to God all the time, and, no offense, but He never mentioned you.”

Gaston - Ladyhawke

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/8f150298-6aa5-476a-a590-a5cad4f811ac

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
19. "What God says to you...
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 03:39 PM
Jul 2021

... is revelation; what you say God said to you is mere hearsay."

- Thomas Paine

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
4. Jesus never mentioned abortion either in the new testament.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jul 2021

But right wingers are sure it's there somewhere, always claiming they'll get back with me when
they have proof. Glad I never held my breath.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
7. Yeah, that one always throws them ... though my siblings are always able to come up with scripture
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jul 2021

that when interpreted correctly, as in according to them and those they follow, means the sin of "abortion". They are good at exrapolating facts/truth from bullshit.

Probatim

(2,525 posts)
12. Last I checked, it was gawd who murdered thousands of first born Egyptians in their sleep.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 01:37 PM
Jul 2021

I guess they deserved since they "got borned".

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
38. Two entirely different bible stories
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:33 AM
Jul 2021

One has to do with Moses calling the plagues on Egypt (locusts, water turning into blood, and the deaths of first born sons) to pressure the pharaoh to release the Israelites. (Old Testament)

The other has to do with King Herod trying to insure the death of the Messiah. (New Testament)

Probatim

(2,525 posts)
40. Thanks - I had forgotten about King Herod.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jul 2021

It's been a while since my time in catholic school. Not long enough to get past the nuns beating me for having a sense of humor (and being a lefty) but it's been a while.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
41. I bet we could share similar stories
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 02:48 PM
Jul 2021

My mom was a leftie who was forced, by nuns, into being right handed. She trained me in the same direction so the things I've been 'taught' to do right handed - writing, for example - stuck. The things I taught myself I tend to do left handed. For example, my computer mouse/touch pad is always set for left handed and I can't comfortably steer a car using my right hand. So, both lobes of my brain get quite a work out.

And don't get me started on those nuns!!

Probatim

(2,525 posts)
42. I refer to myself as a catholic school lefty.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jul 2021

All gross motor skills (sports mostly) are done right-handed. All fine motor skills are done left-handed - this includes things like brushing my teeth, eating, and writing.

What's funny is that I'm left eye dominant and shoot a rifle left-handed but I shoot a bow right-handed.

I've played golf with work colleagues who only see me as a lefty. I show up at the course and it take 3-4 holes but someone always pipes up with - I thought you were left-handed?

I think it makes you better at problem solving.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
43. And I get to throw Dyslexia into the mix
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jul 2021

I like to think it all just makes me an interesting person.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
16. You are correct
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 02:24 PM
Jul 2021

Jesus never talked about abortion in the new testament.

But the old testament does - it gives a recipe on how to do it.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
14. Actually Jesus doesn't mention anything in the Bible.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jul 2021

The Bible was written long after he was dead.

(That is, if he ever even existed)

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
17. The Constitution doesn't mention God, either ...
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jul 2021

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
-- Preamble to the Declaration of Independence

... that means each person's belief in who/what - if any - creator exists for them ...

... the Christian God is NOT in the Constitution ...

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
32. It's a stretch to call that a "mention"
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 12:03 AM
Jul 2021

The "year of our Lord" is merely the English translation of the Latin anno domini, or "A.D." It was the standard date convention of the day. It's a mistake to read anything more into it than that.

Response to markpkessinger (Reply #32)

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
34. Nonsense . . .
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 02:34 AM
Jul 2021

Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe were all Deists, who believed that a supreme being created the world, and then withdrew from it and allowed it to run according to the laws that being had ordained. But given that they were also Virginians, and the Church of England was the established church in that colony, prior to the revoluition they would have been nominal Anglicans, but that doesn't necessarily mean they accepted Anglican dogma for themselves. Jesus was largely irrelevant in the scheme of Deism. They accepted terms like A.D. because Christians were indeed dominant, and they had no interest in trying to convert anyone away from it.

Of George Washington, Jefferson once observed that George Washington "has divines constantly about him because he thinks it right to keep up appearances but is an unbeliever. According to biographer Steven Waldman, Madison's view was that Washington was spiritual but not interested in the theological particulars of the Christian faith. Jefferson and Adams both seemed to have viewed Jesus more as a great ethical and moral teacher rather than their personal "Lord."

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
21. This is exactly why "In God We Trust" needs to be removed from our money.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 03:52 PM
Jul 2021

It’s state sanctioned religion.

They didn’t put it on coins until 1864 and on currency until 1957.

We got along without it just fine up until the those years.

Also remove the reference from the pledge of allegiance.

It was not put into it until the 1950’s as well.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
25. The Constitution says "in the year of our Lord" in Article VII
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 04:58 PM
Jul 2021

Pretty sure the people who wrote that meant Jesus.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
31. If you really believe in Jesus remember what he said about government.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 12:01 AM
Jul 2021

He said to render to Cesar the things that are Cesar's, meaning government, and to God the things that are God's.

griloco

(832 posts)
35. YeahButButBut, Jesus wrote the Bible in Amurican English for a reason!!!
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 06:33 AM
Jul 2021

(3 exclamation points means it's true in Rightwingish)

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