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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsManspreading Athwart History Yelling "Stop and Date Me You Filthy Freedom Hating Harlot!!"
Headline, which cannot be improved on, from https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2021/07/manspreading-athwart-history-yelling-stop-and-date-me-you-filthy-freedom-hating-harlot
The National Review makes an utter clown of itself:
Link to tweet
"When the bedrock, lead-off of your case is that college students not wanting to date Trump supporters reveals a predilection for infringing on people's rights, you've lost the argument in a way that veers way too close to incel-ville.
Yikes."
Link to tweet
"At it's core, this is just a de-religionized version of Sohrab: In order to win the war against society rejecting our ideas, we must curtail the freedoms of those of who disagree with us and have the ability to impact our lives in some way."
Jilly_in_VA
(9,966 posts)What s foul bunch of incel bafflegab garbage!
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)In 40 or so years, theyll all die out, because they cant get laid.
And Im okay with that.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)of TFG supporters tend to be assholes?
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)their way not to jump to that hypothesis right away.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)$2 Million should cover it.
$3 Million if I'll be expected to actually come in contact with any of them.
paleotn
(17,912 posts)COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)And write the proposal for you!!!
Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)etc., etc....Just imagine their conversation...but yes, they tend to be assholes, at least 90% of them, I do know a few that one can still hold a conversation with them.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)they follow the chosen one, his virility and animal magnetism rubs off don't you know.
malignant narcissists need lovin too, am I right?
Jim__
(14,075 posts)AZ8theist
(5,459 posts)..and Repuke chairs who think "chemtrails" exist...
Hugin
(33,135 posts)It must have been zero or negative until they hit a pocket of them at Liberty U or someplace. Using the extra wide definition of Ivy League.
Ritabert
(667 posts)What woman in her right mind would want to date a Trump supporter. They're anti-science, anti-gay rights, anti-women's rights and stupid to boot.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Just as proper as not associating with Jim Jones and his Peoples Temple cult.
Its would also be perfectly fine to discriminate against either cult.
msfiddlestix
(7,281 posts)specifically in reference to Jim Jones and his Peoples Temple as analogous to cult followers of tfg.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That should be real popular on Tinder.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)political views (and probably everything else about them, because let's face it, they do kind of have a personality type) morally reprehensible?
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Is an absolute violation of their freedom to express their own personal opinions.
If you dont wanna get called an asshole, dont ACT like one.
And the tweet is right, that's some incel shit right there. Maybe if you didnt hate women so much, you could get one of them to date you.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)I'd say their problems started long, long, before 2020, or 2016.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)PS: that title is true art. A sonnet. Shakespearean.
Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)They're using "would you date a Trump supporter?" survey results to argue that they're being discriminated against in hiring and other arenas. The one doesn't follow from the other, and it's basically a huge non sequitur. Saying "girls won't date me because I'm a Trump supporter" in no way supports the notion that they didn't get X job because they're a Trump supporter.
Even if that were the case, political leanings aren't a protected class like race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. It's just a really, really dumb argument all the way around, but no real surprise there.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)college girls don't want to date tRumpists, and employers don't want to hire tRumpists, then college girls are "progressive authoritarian" employers. Or something.
No need for political leanings to be considered, just evaluate for standard qualities HR always searches for such as honesty, trustworthiness, reliability, adequate judgment, working well with others. Etc.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)You're telling me that college women DON'T get all hot and bothered by men telling them they're second-class citizens that need to shut up and go back to making babies and sandwiches?
The HELL you say!
Although it would explain why one of my Rush Limbaugh loving classmates was always driving his shiny Mustang alone and angry, while I was happily driving around for 4 years with college women in my shitty Pontiac.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)I sure as hell wouldn't as a trans woman. I have no time for men or really want anything to do with them since this is how a lot will think. They feel entitled to it. Well sorry boys, you're not. You're losers through and through.
TygrBright
(20,759 posts)Every gardener knows what that means.
revoltedly,
Bright
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)RainCaster
(10,870 posts)Really awful ideas presented here. An immediate jump from "I won't date you" to "I won't hire you". All for some political beliefs that are NOT part of a protected class.
Ford_Prefect
(7,895 posts)When you can't actually think outside the box, invert the equation. In which case you redefine the issue as everyone else's problem. That will show those elitist scum, right?
SergeStorms
(19,199 posts)don't want to date assholes. I'm sure that would have been the case 20 years ago as well. Trump supporters are proud of their dumbfuckedness.
They're far easier to identify as assholes then men of the past. Trump supporters have just made it easier for women to separate the wheat from the chaff. Shouldn't Trump incels be proud not to date women who don't agree with their political views?
Oh, that's right. Trump-humpers believe women are only good for one thing, and that one thing isn't long, elaborate discussions about political ideology.
Trump-humpers; fantasize about Elise Stefanik and shake hands with your little wieners. Relationships with the vast majority of women require some grey matter between your ears, as well as emotions other than lust. You chose celibacy when you chose Trump.
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)That should be spending their money on deodorant instead of AR-15 mags.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Out of step with history and progress.
Leave 'em in our dust and let's carry on building a sustainable diverse world without authoritarians.
One of the best headlines I've seen in many a long day.
Warpy
(111,254 posts)but part of the problem was that they saw left wing women, hippies or not, as "easy" and treated them that way. Left wing women, thinking of themselves as more than something for a guy in a Ban Lon golf shirt to masturbate into, cut them dead.
This forced them to go after teenagers at their churches. That rarely turned out well for any of them. Hey, marry young, marry often, it's the Republican way.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)ShazzieB
(16,389 posts)My dating days have been over for decades (47 years of monogamous marriage here), but I seem to recall being advised that it was a good idea to seek out people who share one's basic values as dating and potential relationship prospects. That still makes sense to me, and it also makes sense to me that most women who are smart enough to get into an ivy league school would also be too smart to want to hang out with someone who supports the biggest liar and most corrupt criminal shitweasel to ever taint the oval office with his presence.
As for job discrimination, anyone who displays their political orientation at any point during the hiring process is displaying very bad judgment (because WHO DOES THAT?) and probably should rethink a lot of their life choices.
PatrickforB
(14,572 posts)So, we are going to somehow attack the entrenched liberals by limiting the institutional autonomy of colleges and forcing women to go out with Trump supporters.
I guess I'm just not getting it...because it sure doesn't make sense.
niyad
(113,283 posts)This has been a long and difficult day, and my little grey cells are hot and tired. But. . . . WTAF did I just try to comprehend??
ironman99
(99 posts)There are only two types of incels: those who have no sexual desire for anyone, and those who lost their sexual organs due to some major trauma.
The crowd that claims to be incel, are not involuntarily celibate, they are voluntarily being f***ing jackasses.
Congratulations to almost all women, including those from the Ivy Leagues, who can recognize that a T****ster or Repubican will never be a good romantic prospect.
Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)said no woman ever.
irisblue
(32,969 posts)FIRE has received funding from the Bradley Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation, and the Charles Koch Institute.[1]
from their wiki...The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) is a non-profit group founded in 1999 that focuses on protecting free speech rights on college campuses in the United States.[1] Its goal is "to defend and sustain individual rights at America's colleges and universities," including the rights to "freedom of speech, legal equality, due process, religious liberty, and sanctity of conscience".[2]
crickets
(25,969 posts)"I'm not interested. Go away!" is not political discrimination.
Also, progressive authoritarianism is an oxymoron.
JHB
(37,159 posts)It's not as if they object to voter suppression or union busting.