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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:17 AM Jul 2021

Trump Country Rejects Vaccines Despite Growing Delta Threat


(Bloomberg) -- Larry Krauck awoke in a strange hospital, the date written on a dry-erase board in his room: Dec. 12, 2020.

That can’t be right, he thought. He remembered being treated for Covid-19 at a different hospital in Springfield, Missouri, on Nov. 1. Could the last six weeks really be blank? He told a nurse her board was wrong.

She slipped out of the room and returned with a summary of his procedures, scrawled on a sticky note, including thirty-three days on a blood oxygenation machine called an ECMO. One day, Krauck had flat-lined and was resuscitated.

Krauck, 50 at the time, caught the coronavirus and nearly died well before vaccines were available. Since his ordeal, he’s become an advocate for the shots — the type of local, trusted messenger that health officials hope can woo the skeptical.

“I tell people all the time: you don’t want to be me,” he said in an interview. But where he lives, deep in Trump country where doubts run strong about vaccines and the virus, his tale of a near-death experience is only occasionally enough to persuade acquaintances — even close family — to get their shots. ..............(more)

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/trump-country-rejects-vaccines-despite-growing-delta-threat-1.1626073




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Trump Country Rejects Vaccines Despite Growing Delta Threat (Original Post) marmar Jul 2021 OP
Yep WHITT Jul 2021 #1
Willing to risk dying* to show support for your Dear Leader underpants Jul 2021 #2
It's fucked up because TFG was hospitalized and is now vaccinated. Carlson is likely vaccinated too. LonePirate Jul 2021 #10
If it could be that only unvaxxed Trumpers die from COVID... Girard442 Jul 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Girard442 Jul 2021 #4
Propaganda is so strong Johnny2X2X Jul 2021 #5
My main concern . . . Lovie777 Jul 2021 #6
Maybe these new voter restriction laws... Omnipresent Jul 2021 #7
Some woman from Springfield Missouri thinks she knows more than Anthony Fauci medicine and science. Botany Jul 2021 #8
Well, she has a point there: Merlot Jul 2021 #13
"If I get it, and it's my time to die, then I get it and it's my time to die." lapfog_1 Jul 2021 #15
Give 'em absolutely no medicine or care when they get C-19 except for maybe a cyanide capsule Botany Jul 2021 #16
I wonder if she's one of the people in Missouri now waiting for a vent? n/t OhioChick Jul 2021 #25
Where We go One, We go All. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #9
Killing themselves to "own the libs". Initech Jul 2021 #14
I just ordered some N95 masks. I'll be wearing them Phoenix61 Jul 2021 #11
First story on Fox and Friends this a.m.? skip fox Jul 2021 #12
Business site! They are taking notice and making plans. Vaccine passports imminent. BlueWavePsych Jul 2021 #17
From the Hoarse Whisperer LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #18
Fuck em let em die vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #19
Preferably at home.... OhioChick Jul 2021 #24
June U.S. COVID deaths: 99.2% unvaccinated. moondust Jul 2021 #20
It could be they feel guilty gulliver Jul 2021 #21
They do what Fox News tells them. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #22
"If you go down in the flood it's gonna be your own fault" struggle4progress Jul 2021 #23

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
1. Yep
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:27 AM
Jul 2021
his tale of a near-death experience is only occasionally enough to persuade acquaintances — even close family — to get their shots.

Saw a similar story. Husband and wife were anti-vax, then he contracted covid, they showed video of him in a hospital bed with all the tubes and wiring and such. He looked like he got hit by a semi-truck. He said, 'Get the damn shot'.

Ridiculous that's what it takes.

underpants

(182,791 posts)
2. Willing to risk dying* to show support for your Dear Leader
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:30 AM
Jul 2021

Now THAT’s a cult.

* results may vary to include long term illness, expensive health expenditures, loss of income for family/friend care giver, decreased FREEDOM!!!, lower lung capacity and life expectancy, someday looking in the mirror and realizing you’ve been duped AND spent hours watching Tucker Carlson.

LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
10. It's fucked up because TFG was hospitalized and is now vaccinated. Carlson is likely vaccinated too.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:59 AM
Jul 2021

Of course neither one will implore their cult followers to get vaccinated because of what that means with regard to their prior statements and actions.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
3. If it could be that only unvaxxed Trumpers die from COVID...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:34 AM
Jul 2021

...well, you know.

That's not tbe way it works.

Response to marmar (Original post)

Johnny2X2X

(19,061 posts)
5. Propaganda is so strong
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:35 AM
Jul 2021

Not all of these people are idiots. I don't know how they've gotten to this, but they refuse to get vaccinated and there's no good reason why.

Lovie777

(12,260 posts)
6. My main concern . . .
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:36 AM
Jul 2021

protect the people who adhered to the importance of survival as a species, ya know the ones that cared enough for their families and their friends and people that they didn't know.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
8. Some woman from Springfield Missouri thinks she knows more than Anthony Fauci medicine and science.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:36 AM
Jul 2021



In Springfield, vaccine doubters include Krauck’s niece, Jennifer Davis. She hasn’t had a shot and isn’t inclined to get one. Four of her five children, all of whom are eligible, are also unvaccinated; she worries that a daughter who got the shots will suffer side effects.

She and her uncle are close and speak fondly of each other. But Davis, 41, believes the vaccines were developed too quickly and that a series of illnesses suffered by friends and their families are broadly linked to other vaccines. She wonders why people line up for shots, and trusts doctors less after a previous recommendation led to complications and a hysterectomy. Coronavirus doesn’t seem that dangerous to her — even given Krauck’s experience.

“There hasn’t been enough research done on it, and I’d rather take my chances with the virus than I would to get the vaccine. I trust my immune system,” Davis said in an interview. “If I get it, and it’s my time to die, then I get it and it’s my time to die.”

Davis supports Trump, but says not even the former president could change her mind. “It’s silly that people think just because one man says ‘go get it,’ that we’re going to line up and do it. Because it’s not going to happen.”

Across the region, health officials lament the politicization of vaccines. So does Davis. She believes incentives for shots, like lotteries and other giveaways, fuel doubts about their safety, and she questions why other crucial medicines, like insulin, aren’t also distributed for free.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
13. Well, she has a point there:
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:47 AM
Jul 2021
she questions why other crucial medicines, like insulin, aren’t also distributed for free.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
15. "If I get it, and it's my time to die, then I get it and it's my time to die."
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:48 AM
Jul 2021

works for me...

All of these un-vaccinated need to sign a DNR... meaning NO hospitalizations... they develop Covid bad enough to require anything more than home oxygen... too bad.

I'm done with being compassionate to these idiots. It's time to let Darwin do the magic of natural selection. Oops, make that the SCIENCE of natural selection.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
16. Give 'em absolutely no medicine or care when they get C-19 except for maybe a cyanide capsule
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:57 AM
Jul 2021

For the love of Dog even in the Ozarks they don't have kids in iron lungs because
the polio vaccine worked.

Fox and their like, the GOP, and Christian Evangelical Pastors are a cancer on America.

skip fox

(19,358 posts)
12. First story on Fox and Friends this a.m.?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:19 AM
Jul 2021

They were savoring Dan Crenshaw's response to Biden going door to door encouraging shots. Crenshaw said (I'm paraphrasing but not by much):

If Biden comes to my door, I'll just close it and say: "My body, my choice!"

moondust

(19,979 posts)
20. June U.S. COVID deaths: 99.2% unvaccinated.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 12:51 AM
Jul 2021
Per CNN

Incidentally, these are the fools who largely decide what the federal government can accomplish due to its undemocratic nature: electoral college, equal Senate representation for states whether they have tiny or huge populations, supermajority requirements, minority abuse of filibuster, gerrymandering, etc. And it will likely get worse if all the voter suppression and nullification bills pass.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
21. It could be they feel guilty
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 02:28 AM
Jul 2021

If a Trumpie gets the shot, they might feel like it is admitting COVID-19 is bad. But they backed a guy who lied and said it wasn't (causing the deaths of tens or hundreds of thousands of Americans).

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